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Mayday in Vegas! Dashboard Trouble
dingy replied to tdoyle9760's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
It will probably be the 4th fuse down from the ACCY terminals. A 20 amp fuse. Like ic23b said fuse block. The spring clips weaken and don't hold fuses tight. Tug on each of the glass fuses, any that are not tight on both ends need fixed asap. Gary -
There was a thread on here about a month or so ago were someone had a side stand on both sides. I think this was due to his trailer and it was easier to park with either one. Gary
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I was on a blood thinner last summer due to a pulmonary embolism. I started carrying a couple of cheap tourniquets I got the doctors office when I had my blood tested. Thought they might come in handy, with the blood thinners, bleeding is tough to stop. Gary
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One other thing I neglected to mention is that if you are going to use an MKII clutch setup, you will also need to use an MKII crankcase cover for the clutch. The MKI cover is narrower than the MKII unit. The MKI will not bolt up due to the assembled clutch is thicker. This is because of the pressure plate. I learned this when rebuilding the bike this winter. I have a very nicely polished MKI cover that is sitting in a box because it is about a 1/4" too narrow. I had to use the cover from my MKII parts bike that was beyond the point of polishing. Powder coated it black instead. Gary
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Intermittent No Start Issue
dingy replied to MikeZ06Allen's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
What are you using for a HP factor for the bike? Are you using brake HP for both or rear wheel HP? Gary -
Intermittent No Start Issue
dingy replied to MikeZ06Allen's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Is the starter engaging, trying to start ? If not, putting on center stand should makee no difference, unless you are leaving on side stand to warm up. Does bike shut off in nuetral when side stand is put down? Gary -
Headlight/Starter Switch...
dingy replied to JoeKanuck's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Below are guides to cleaning the main handlebar switches on an MKII. Throttle side switch http://venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42433 Clutch side switch http://venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=42721 Gary -
I got both heads, cams & valve covers on Pinwall this spring for $300. Came from a bike with 17,000 miles on it. They where in great shape too. Heads won't help you though. Gary
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I know the 83 are not the same as a VMax, I have 3 sets of 83's and they all match. They are not close to the VMax cams I have. Get valve springs also if you are going to replace cams. Don't know about fitting in a 99. Gary
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Intermittent No Start Issue
dingy replied to MikeZ06Allen's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Check the clutch switch first, couple of things happen at times with it. One is bushing gets worn and allows to much play. Second is switch can pop out of retainer and move back. Next culprit may be side stand switch, two ways to check this. First is to find connector for side stand switch behind left side cover near air ride damper. Split at connector and jumper all three wires together on bike cable side, this will by pass side stand switch. If this is the problem fix the switch, don't leave it jumpered. It's a safety thing. Attached is a PDF file showing the starting circuits for the MKII's Gary -
83 fuel petcock valve
dingy replied to DesertRider's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I don,t know if this will help, but attached are a couple of pictures at the point where I put fuel tank back into bike & just before it went in. Also a couple with sub frame back on. Pretty much you need to remove the rear sub frame. Gary -
clean ignition
dingy replied to PapaAl86's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
The two connectors are on left side of bike near the hole in the black plastic shield behind the headlight bucket. There are two connectors, one has two large wires in it (Red one & Brown one) and the other has either two smaller wires if bike does not have CLASS unit (Blue one & Red with Black tracer). or three wires if it has CLASS unit (additional Red with Blue tracer) Attached are a few of pictures of the insides of a 1st gen key switch. Last picture is of switch mounted on a stripped 83 bike. The two bolts that hold the switch in place might be accessed from the bottom with a long extension. I think they are 12mm, but might be 10mm. The black carbon should be removed from switch. The easiest way would be to get some contact cleaner and shoot into key slot. This may not help though. There is no good drain path for the contact cleaner to exit from. Black carbon is an electrical conductor, it is not a good choice to put in an electrical switch. Gary -
Doug, The long push rod shows the same part #'s from MKI's to MKII's. The outer push rod is different, I missed that. P/N is 36Y-16356-00-0. Part shark has them for $7.57 + shipping. You probably have one if one of your parts bike was an MKII though. Here is a link to the clutch mod. Known as Double D mod. It is detailed for a Vmax, but is the same setup in a Venture. http://vmax.lvlhead.com/tips/clutch.htm Gary
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This is bullcrap..... hesitation.
dingy replied to RoyalStarRider's topic in Royal Star and Royal Star Tour Deluxe Tech Talk
Try putting some duct tape over the new holes in the air box. See if that eliminates hesitation. I know the first gen's didn't react well when the air box was opened up. They would start & idle nice, but had similar symptoms as you are having. Gary -
MKII wiring harness ?'s
dingy replied to bald josh's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
An 83 harness is completely different. Turn signal flasher relays, starter relay and fuel pump control circuit come to mind. 84 & 85 are closer, but still are some different connectors. Different fuel pump relay circuitry. A bike with cruise is different from a bike without cruise. This is due to the brake and clutch levers having different contact configurations and cruise connectors. I don't know if they made a separate harness number for the units that had CB's and CLASS systems as opposed to those that didn't. A Royale unit is different from the standard unit. Different instrument cluster connections. This is one of the short comings of the parts fiche. I have not found where they list part numbers for the upgrade options. Gary -
That's one of the reasons I like this forum. Another mans failure is a lesson for all of us. Sorry it had to be you Mike. Gary
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Just a note about checking amps. To check amps, the meter needs to be in series with the circuit. To check voltage, the meter is paralleled with the circuit. If you aren't sure about this, I could draw up a quick schematic to show how to measure current. When you are doing an amperage reading, remove the positive lead from the battery. Hook the red meter lead from the meter to the now empty positive battery terminal, and then hook the black meter lead to any and all wires that came off the positive battery post. To verify meter is functioning, turn the key on and turn radio on, you will see around a half amp or so reading. Have meter set on high scale at first then drop down to lower scales. Don't try the starter. Very few meters have a scale high enough to read the starter current without blowing a fuse. Starter will pull 100+ amps. If you have the need to check the starter control circuit, disconnect the positive wire from the starter itself. Gary
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Doug, The clutch steel plates & friction discs are the same from the MKI's into the MKII's, I didn't check all the way through to the 93's though. The parts fiches for every year are on the site here somewhere, or I could get them to you.. So you could use your good set from the MKI with the MKII setup. The clutch boss's have different numbers. The main unit, the primary gear is the same, so you could use either one. You would need to use the MKII pressure plate. Someone on here would have an extra diaphragm spring as a lot of people have went to the PCW setup. I had one member give me his for shipping cost. So all it would take, assuming you have an MKII clutch main parts is getting another diaphragm spring. You mentioned a problem with your wrist I think, this setup is a harder pull than a stock 83 has, but it doesn't slip. I reused my 88 plates and discs as they all measured within spec. I used one full disc from my 83 clutch to replace the half disc. I start getting engagement when I let the clutch lever out about a 1/2" inch from full pull. Gary
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Isn't it fun though rebuilding one of these. When you are done you will have a machine that will last for a long time and have the knowledge that of how everything works in it. You mentioned putting in a vboost system. One thing I believe you will need to modify on the carbs is the pull cable mounting. I talked with Rick Butler at Freebirds MD this year about doing this to mine. He said that due to the carb rack being raised from the new intakes, that the pull cable had to be changed when he did his. You might want to talk to him about this while you have carbs off. His user name is Rick Butler . I ended up using the clutch pack from my 88 donor bike on my engine. Unlike you, I felt the diaphragm spring setup was superior to the helical springs on the MKI's. With the diaphragm spring setup, there are three levels of pressure setups available. First is the stock setup, which, as it comes from the factory, is not sufficient. Second, there is the PCW mod which Skydoc is selling in the classifieds. Third, there is a mod where two stock diaphragm springs are used. This is the route I went. It makes for a hard pull on the lever, but I have seen no slippage. The coil spring setup on the MKI's is a little harder to increase the pressure. There is a Barnett coil spring upgrade available for it, but I talked to the seller, and he said the springs were the same specs as stock, more of a replacement kit than an upgrade. I found that when I put my progressive springs in , that the front end went from spongy to like a rock. I took the short PVC spacer out that came with the new springs and it is much better. I may at some point put the spacer back in, due to I have heard after some time the progressives break in and become freer. You said that you were going to rebuild carbs and keep them on the rack. You won't be able to do much if you do not split them in half at least. You can't pull fuel bowl cover off with rack intact. You can split it into two pieces (right & left and be fine. If you did not get a complete rebuild kit, I would suggest you do not remove the housing that holds the main jet from the carb body inside the fuel bowl. The gasket there will need to be replaced. Gary
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MKI headlight cannot be put into a stock MKII. The front fairing sub frame is different. MKI has tabs on it to mount the headlight bucket which are not on the MKII sub frame. Picture of MKI fairing sub frame is in attached picture. Tabs for headlight mount have circle around them. Gary
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The Beast is Alive!
dingy replied to GaryZ's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Gary, Attached is a page from 84 owners manual showing fuel petcock operation. Gary -
No pictures ? It didn't happen then. Gary
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Why the Resister??
dingy replied to KarlS's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
But also consider that the probe is in one of the two center cells, so it only is reading 3 or 4 cells of voltage. It is not seeing the full potential of all cells in series. Gary -
I have been dealing without having a job since January 2009. Finally started back to work this week as a Mechanical Design Engineer at a plant 5 miles from home. I am working in new product development, which is a nice area to be in. They make small electrical sensors for cars, appliances, water heaters & related stuff. Last job was a 55 mile commute one way, so the 5 mile drive is great . It is nice to be productive again. On the down side, my mother in law was diagnosed with terminal cancer a week ago. The cancer is so advanced , there is nothing they can do for her. She is an old Kentucky hills woman that never went to the doctor. She was taken to ER last week and diagnosed with pneumonia. They made her go to a regular doctor and he found a large mass on one of her lungs and cancer had spread to throat and lymph nodes. She has probably known that something was wrong for sometime, but never said anything. There is nothing that they can do for her. At this point they can't even drain her lungs again. They put her on morphine this afternoon. She is on a full face respirator that is doing most of her breathing for her. My wife and her brother & sisters are constantly with her at hospital. She can pass at any time now. Gary