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Hey guys, what do you use in lieu of a yamaha fuel filter, mine is plugged after a tank with seafoam!!!! Any part #s come to mind
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I know I had seen something out here a while ago about this, but couldn't find it. Anyways, the brass outlet tube was weeping a bit and it popped out when I pulled the fuel line off. I understand that it is a pressure fit, ok to tap it back in as is? Use a little sealant? Or replace the whole thing? Thoughts or experiences, thanks.
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This was sent to me by Bob Dakin. Very interesting but of course we probably won't ever seen anything else about it. http://www.valcent.net/i/misc/Vertigro/index.html
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Got carbs back on "Shady Lady" and had to use starting fluid to get her started. Would only run at idle with choke all the way on! Sat and scratched head for a hour or so, swapped out fuel pump and she runs!! Am I that stupid?? I had changed it before with one off a running bike. More I thought about it it just didn't seem to be getting fuel. No air box or anything on it but it runs!! At last a step in the right direction. Get it buttoned back up and enough plastic on her to take for trial. Want to see if 2nd gear is there. Get her on road and Color-Tune, Carb-Tune, (Mecury Sticks for me) Plastic glue and see what I've got. Problem is back to work and they called me today whining about being short and would I come in and help out?? NO!!! How long til Ashville???? "BROWN SUGAR" Don't need to worry. (YET)
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I dont really care for the manual's float adjustment for 1st Gens I have the carbs off is there a way to measure the float without the tube of fuel. Can measure it when your inside the carbs?
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I know that diesel engines will improve mpg over a breaking period. My truck saw an increase in mpg from 17 (new) to 20 to 21 after 20,000 miles. I have just turned 14,000 miles on my RSV and the last 3 tanks of fuel I have gotten 48 to 50 mpg. NO, I am not complaining. Just quite happy at the milage. The only other thing could be that I ran some Seafoam thought it within the last 800 miles.
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Any truth to the rumor that Yamaha is doing a V Twin with fuel injection for a redesign of the Royal Star?
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Yesterday, I had been out on a full long day's ride on the 06 Midnight Venture and ran into a weird problem. (the bike is a Yank bike but I'm in Canada) As I understand it, and as it has always done, the low fuel light comes on around 170 miles and allows me roughly 12-20 miles more before actually getting to the reserve.. I've never actually gone to the point of having to switch to reserve at that point. I've gotten to 210 miles before hitting reserve. At around 170 miles, I usually put in around 17 litres of gas.. The bike as 22.5 fuel capacity with a 4 litre reserve, which means at reserve I should be putting in around 18.5 litres, or roughly so. This the norm with my bike.. I've changed my fuel filter last month. However yesterday was weird.. Weather condition was hot for up here. We drove 90 minutes, the bikes were parked in the sun for 3 hours and then we headed back after the festivities. On the way home via highway, the fuel light came on at the expected 170 miles but right away the bike started to buck.. "reserve"?! I switched it to reserve and yep, the bike smoothed out and away we went.. Wait now, I thought.. I switched it back to normal and the bike ran smooth.. but as soon as we hit a small hill it hit again.. wow, back on reserve and smoothed out again.. and immediately pulled in to the next gas station for fuel.. I only put in 16 litres, well below what I should have been if on reserve?! But all has been good since.. What bothers and puzzles me is that the low fuel light came on and right away I'm on reserve. And I went on reserve much earlier with so much more fuel in the bike than what the 'reserve' amount should have been.. see the problem? The only explanation that anyone locally could come up with was that the fuel in the tank was so hot that it might have 'foamed' thus giving the system the impression of lesser fuel amounts.. Anyone see this before or know if I have an impending problem on my hands as far as fuel management goes? Cheers
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About 2 years ago, I installed a used fuel pump I bought on E-Bay. It worked just fine, so I left it installed on the 89. Was at about 47K at the time. So: Today, after carrying the original around in the Bags as a spare, I decided to re-install the original pump. ( Just to make sure it was working ) Wa La !!! Fuse Blew !!! It don't work. Opened it up, Pressure Switch OK, Pump section OK ( the bottom part ) . But found Low Resistance thru the Main Coil. About 1.3 ohms. The good one reads about 2.5 ohms ???? Totally at a loss to explain this, as the darn thing was working just fine 2 years ago when I removed it, and wrapped it up in a bag to carry as a spare. ???
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Anyone ever have to do this to the 1300? What's the process?
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I need some advice! My 2006 Venture has become hard starting when cold. I also notice that I don't hear the fuel pump when turning the key on. Once started it runs fine. Is there anyone out there who has had the problem or knows of a solution, or is it back to the shop for me? Thanks, Kenw
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When I am riding solo with no one to talk with, my brain starts to limber up and tries to escape. Sometimes all that thinking can be dangerous! On my way home from Don's this week it seemed to me I was getting particularly poor mileage, so I was doing a lot of thinking about it and thought I'd share with y'all. This is gonna be long - I had 3,000 miles to think on this trip! Things that affect fuel mileage, in no particular order (some more obvious than others): How full you fill your tank* Tire pressure Tire size, style, and composition Engine condition Primary and secondary electrical circuits Temperature of the gas when you fill up Temperature of the air Humidity Altitude and barometric pressure Gasohol (but NOT octane) Riding style, location, and terrain SPEED Winds Add-on miracle gadgets from late night TV commercials (I am sure I missed something here) Number 1 doesn't really change fuel mileage, of course, but it sure can throw off your calculation, especially with a small tank. For example, filling up with 5 gallons of gas after going 180 miles will give you 36 MPG (close to my average). But if you happen to squeeze 5.29 gallons of gas into the same tank, your calculated mileage would only be 34 MPG, and if you stop just a little short at only 4.73 gallons, you would be "enjoying" 38 MPG. So less than 1/3 of a gallon difference in our fill-ups makes more than a 5% change in the calculated MPG. Quite a significant change. The trick, of course, is to ensure you fill that tank to exactly the same level every time, and that is not easy. And if you have not vented the filler neck it is REALLY hard if you are trying to get it as full as you can to go longer between stops. I know when I am dinking around with the hose at the top of the tank trying to get the amount to stop exactly on even digits (such as $18.11 or $18.22, etc.) that I can easily put in more than 1/3 of a gallon more than where I already thought was a full tank. That is why I think it is so important to check mileage all the time if you are going to report it or compare with others - just a tank or two is not accurate to me. Tires - they affect mileage by how hard they are to roll. But I really have no idea how big a difference they make in actual calculated MPG, so I won't dwell on them here. Simply said, the more air in them, the harder they are, and the easier they are to roll. In addition, different rubber compounds and tire construction can change the way they flex and make rolling harder or easier. Even so, I tend to dismiss tires as not being a significant part of the MPG equation, but I'd like to hear from anyone who has more information and thinks they are significant. Engine condition is a biggie. If it is not running right for any reason, you get very bad mileage. If you engine is wearing out and your compression is dropping, it may still run fine, but your mileage will suffer a lot. Miss-adjusted or burned valves will kill you (figuratively speaking). Timing being off, fouled plugs, dirty carbs, etc. are all bad (note that the timing on the RSV is not adjustable). The electrical system on the bike can have a noticeable affect, but problems are not common. The primary and secondary circuits refer to the ignition circuit before and after the coils. In short, if you have a weak spark, you may not be getting full and consistent ignition of the fuel, thus causing poor mileage. Temperature of the fuel when you fill up is a big impact, but nothing you can control - just know that it can change the actual MPG by around 5%. Everything expands with heat, and fuel pumps only have to be accurate when the fuel is about 65 degrees (going from memory here). In the summer the fuel is warmer, so 1 gallon takes up more space. That means when the pump says it gave you 1 gallon, you really got less! It does not help filling up in the mornings, since the air temperature has little to do with the temperature of the fuel in the underground tanks. But the WORST time to fill up is in the summer during or right after a tanker has delivered fuel, since the fuel in the tanker is going to be a lot warmer than the fuel that has been underground for a day. Temperature and humidity affect the fuel mixture and combustion qualities of the mixture. Cold air is more dense; therefore, you get a leaner mix. Water compresses much less than air, so it not only affects the mixture, but the way it burns too. But frankly I do not know how significant these affects actually are. Probably not much. Air at altitude is thinner, so you run richer (less air to the same amount of gas) and get worse fuel mileage. The change can be significant in both MPG and power, but I don't know the percentages off hand. You may not know that changing barometric pressure is just like changing altitude. A storm coming in gives you the same affect as going up in altitude. Gasohol at any % is simply a curse from the bureaucrats! Alcohol has less energy than an equal volume of gasoline, so mixing any of it in your gas makes the same volume less powerful and you will burn more to do the same work. Curses!!! Octane, however, has no impact. Do not waste your money putting in any higher octane than your engine needs to not detonate (knock or ping). The RSV is specifically built to run on regular. Your individual riding style, including how much weight is on your bike, stop and go, steady speeds, hills, etc. all have a huge effect on your MPG. The faster you accelerate, the more you have to use your brakes, the more weight you carry all take a big toll on your mileage. Maybe hills don't have that much of an impact, since you gain back on the downhill side what you lost going up. I put speed and wind near the bottom of this list for a reason - they are quite similar and have the single biggest impact on MPG beyond something being wrong with your bike. I know for a fact that my Ventures and my riding style generally average 36.5 MPG combining around town riding and most highway speeds. But if I burn a tank at an indicated 80 MPH (actual 73 MPH) I will loose 3 - 5 miles per gallon. Conversely, just keeping it under 50 MPH for a tank, like riding the twisties in the Ozarks, will easily add 5 miles per gallon. The biggest part of that change is wind drag on the bike. So a 20 MPH change in average speed can swing the mileage by close to 10 MPG! Now realize that riding into a 20 MPH wind is even worse, since the impact of wind resistance is not a straight line - more logarithmic, meaning each additional mile per hour of speed has much more drag the one before it. Quartering headwinds are almost as bad. Tail winds, of course, are wonderful things. The last thing I am going to mention here are the miracle cures that you can find in any auto parts store, catalog, and late night TV commercials. EVERY ONE OF THEM IS GARBAGE!!! The only way any of those things can improve your gas mileage is to lighten your weight by taking away your money. Nuff said. I don't know if any of that will be of value to anyone (and I'm sure there is liable to be a lot of disagreement somewhere), but what the hey - thought I'd type it all in anyway. Ride safe all, and I hope your gas prices stay low! Goose
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Anyone know what the fuel prices are like on I80 thru Nevada?? I've decided to cage it to my Grandson's wedding in Id. in two weeks and wonder whether it would be better to wait and tank up in Nevada or go ahead and top the tank off here in Sacramento????? Locally a gallon of reg. goes for $4.50. Also, do they require ethanol in Nevada fuel?? Ya can tell I haven't been up there in a while...
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I have been reading in my manual that I have 20L of fuel capacity, with 4L for reserve. This gives access to 16L of usable fuel in the normal position. I am wondering if I put my switch in the reserve position, will I have access to the full 20L. I ask this because I have a Nighthawk with a reserve fuel switch, with the bottom part of the tank partitioned into two sections. The "on" position accesses one bottom section, and the "reserve" position accesses the other bottom section. This means that I have to use the switch in both positions to get the full tank capacity. As well, if I put the switch in the reserve position, am I correct to assume that the fuel gauge will still only provide indication of what's left of the 16L of fuel? Finally, I know my reserve gauge is very stiff... I haven't moved it because I thought I would break it... but I think I've read in another thread that the gauge is normally stiff, and usually takes pliers to move... is this correct? Thanks for any input anyone can give! -
My fuel gage went from working part time to not working at all. So over the weekend I done a last minute repair before vacation next week.The fuel float assembly is attached to a mechanical wiper arm that brushes across a wire wound resistor in the control unit. As the float bowel moves with a change in fuel tank level the resistance varies from 0 ohms Full to 330 ohms empty. 1. Place bike on center stand,remove seat,unplug the sender connector and clean around the 4 bolts holding fuel float and sender unit in tank. 2. Make sure there is less then a full tank of fuel before removing the bolts and lifting unit off of the seal. 3. Maneuver the assembly around as needed to lift the sender unit,and float rod assembly out of the tank.This can be done without removing the gas tank 4. Take the unit to a clean working area and dry off before working on the sender. 5. Take a small screwdriver flat blade and gently pry off the sender cover side housing. Be careful not to break the 3 metal tabs securing the cover. 6. Now remove all rust particles and loose debris trapped in the sender unit. Spray clean the mechanical wiper arm with an electrical contact cleaner. Using an ohm meter you can measure the resistance at the output terminals. Raising the float 0 ohms and dropping to empty open circuit.The wire wound resister varies from 0 to 330 ohms. 7. In my situation the wiper arm had to be gently bent to add tension so a better contact could be made. I even found the resister bowed in the middle and had to bend it back in to position. 8. When your satisfied with your repairs you can re attach the side cover and plug the sender back into the wiring harness,turn on the key and test your gage before re installing in the tank.Vary the float level and watch your gage indication change. Make sure your float is good before re installing. P/S For your comfort there is a small voltage/current flowing through the wiper arm from the fuel gage. So if your gage arc's while setting on 4 gallon you won't feel a thing. A new meaning to the term After Burners. -
Quickly glancing through the owners manual, I see no reference to oil filter or fuel filter yamaha parts numbers. Does anyone know these? Perhaps there are aftermarket filters that would work..ie NAPA or such? Thanks for the help. -
Finally, after 4 months of on again, off again work, got the exhaust finished up, put the new AGM sealed battery in, pulled the plugs (put a couple of squirts of oil in each cylinder just for the rings), disconnected the coils and the fuel pump, cranked it over freely for a minute or two to get the oil all distributed again and fill the filter. Put the plugs in, connected the coils and fuel pump, put some gas in her, turned the key on, set the choke, hit the button, 3 revolutions later,,,,,SHE FIRED RIGHT UP!!!!!!!!! Little rough, but need to resynch the carbs, run some seafoam thru her, put some premium in the tank. So far, everything is fine. Won't get a chance to check the gears, etc. till I get the rear end, tire and brakes on it. Just got 5 of the six bushings in I need for the rear shock link setup. Gonna start on that right now. I AM SO FREAKIN' HAPPY RIGHT NOW, CAN'T YOU TELL! :dancefool: Hope to have her back on the road by this weekend sometime. Dan
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fuel pump and petcock questions
Guest posted a topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
:confused24:Dh and I've been working on my uncle's '83 Venture Royale for the last couple of days. The license plate has a '96 sticker, leading us to believe the beast hasn't been ridden in 12 years. We've got it running on three cylinders. The fourth hits occasionally. We're using seafoam in the gas. After letting the one carb to the can that's not hitting soak with seafoam overnight, it's doing better, but the engine will quit if dh takes it off choke and takes his hand away from blocking the air intake. He's going to see if the float is stuck. The cylinder is getting spark, and the carb seems to be getting fuel. It's just not sending the mixture to the cylinder. We're trying to avoid rebuilding the cylinders, if we can. We will rebuild them, if we must We changed the fuel filter. The fuel pump has not been replaced. The fuel pump is only pumping fuel in spurts. The fuel filter isn't filling up. Is it supposed to pump constant or only periodically? Is the fuel filter supposed to fill? The petcock is plastic and brittle. Most of what plastic was sticking out to turn has broken off. It needs replacing, but we want to know if there's a metal one to replace it with. I see replacement petcocks on the internet for $36, but they're plastic. Is there an alternative? We have a service manual, but haven't found any information about adjusting cam chains. Is there a way to adjust cam chains? There's a rattling, and we'd like to figure out if it's just chains that need to be adjusted of if we need to anticipate adjusting the valves, not a happy prospect. *wish it weren't shims* -
ON SOAPBOX What's it going to be like when the world runs out of oil. I think we're finding out very quickly. Affordable fuel for transportation is becoming extinct. I just drove buy my gas station and diesel was $4.85 per gallon. Regular is a little less than $4.00 per gallon. Crude is going for $134+ per barrel. The world is being held hostage by the 'haves'. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm a 'have not', and can't afford to drive the truck any longer, and the suburban is sitting a lot. It runs the same to fill up the scoot as it did to fill up the family car a few years ago, and it's going to get worse. The big problem is a family doesn't fit on a scoot. The high cost of fuel is also costing us in other areas as well. Everything sold is going up in price. Shipping is quickly creeping up in cost. The US was considered the most powerfull nation on earth, and we're being brought to our knees by our dependence on affordable fuel. All this and wages are stagnant, and even if they weren't there's no way they could keep up with the increase in the cost of living. Our economy is in the dumpster. Have you noticed that there's no mention by the government about the cost of living lately? We used to hear about it all the time. I don't think they want to admit how bad it really is.... I pity the young family with a couple of kids surviving in this economic climate. I pity those who are retired and on a fixed income dealing with their monthly bills. I pity the business owners who are going out of business because they can no longer survive because everyone is stuffing any spare change into their gas tank. I'm not sure what the answers are.... I have my own opinions... but if we're going to survive as a country something needs to be done quickly. Sticking our head in the sand and waiting for the problem to go away just ain't going to get it... OFF SOAPBOX
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On the post about 10% ethanol affecting/harming/benefitting our bikes, the subject of different brands, octane rating, and additives in fuels came up several times and it was interesting. Since we are scattered all over the globe, it would be interesting to observe various experiences both good and bad with what we are running through our engines. What's your experience/opinion? Please contribute here! JimBob5 added below: -
I'm gathering information to help my uncle get his '83 1200 Venture Royale running. He bought it sight-unseen. It has 65,000 miles on it, and he doesn't know when it ran last. I know very little about Yammy's, only what I've been able to find in the forums so far. His service manual is on it's way. We'll learn much more then. My husband will be helping as well. The trick in helping to work on it is that we live three hours apart. We've got three days over Mem Day weekend. Can we get enough done for it to run in three days? We'll find out. We'll drain the carb bowls. We know not to use carb cleaner. We'll drain the fuel tank and clean it, and check to make sure the petcock isn't leaking. We'll run Seafoam through with the first tank of fresh gas. Do we need to plan to replace all the fuel lines? Do they degrade on the interior of the lines like old Wings do? We'll replace the fuel filter, wherever that is. We'll drain the coolant and replace it with fresh red coolant mixture. Should we pull the radiator? Should we replace the hoses and thermostat then? Does the engine use a timing chain? It'd be nice not to worry about timing belts. We'll change the oil and filter. We'll put the bike on the center stand and turn the rear wheel to see if the engine turns. Hope it does, don't know what to do if it doesn't. We'll likely pull the rear wheel to grease the spline. The one on our Wing was dry, so I'm assuming the Venture's will probably be dry too. We'll make sure the rear end has enough diff oil in it. The beast IS shaft-driven, isn't it? What do we do if second gear isn't working any more? Can I whine if we have to mess with the transmission? Do we add transmission fluid? How do we check that? I hope that's in the manual. Bound to be. We'll check the brakes and fluid. We'll replace the battery. He said the tires don't look dry rotted. We'll check them again really well. I think the shocks are air adjustable. I don't really know what that means, not having that sort of shocks on any of our bikes. We'll need to find out if they can be re-pumped-up and how to do that. They kind of bottom out when he sits in the saddle. Is the fuel tank under the seat? It looked like it when I saw the bike. How's the center of gravity? I worry about the weight of the bike for him. That sucker's HEAVY. It's a good hundred pounds heavier than my Wing, and the Wing's flat out cumbersome. He just want's to get running enough for him to ride it, then think about cosmetic stuff later. Did I miss any initial must-do's? Is this the right forum? I don't know the generations. I thought maybe it's a second gen because it's not the inline four engine.
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2007 Midnight Venture. Bike Hase 1600 Miles. Always Run Quality Gasoline. On Ride Sunday Started To Backfire On Decel, And At Idle. Then Started Pouring Gas Out Carb. My Guess Was Stuck Carb Float (i Am Used To Gold Wing Fuel Inj.) . I Turned Fuel Supply Valve Off To Run Out All Gas Out Of Carbs Then Turned Back On Several Times And It Corrected Itself. Rode Another 200+ Miles On Trip With No Problems (also Put Seafoam In Tank). My Question Is Did I Make The Right Moves To Correct And Should I Be Concerned Or Is This Something That Happens Sometimes.
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I have been thinking about getting a new bike and keep saying "get another Venture" but then again I stop and consider all of it's shortcomings? ---It's dog slow ---It does not have fuel injection ---It does not have ABS Brakes ---It even has a casette and even Walmart does not sell them things anymore ---The speakers cry-out for UPGRADE Hold on: Maybe I should tell you why I say these things. "I have an 06 FJR1300 with ABS, Fuel injection and it's a pleasure to drive and even puts a smile on your face just pulling out of the drive", whereas riding that bull of a Venture is like having to struggle to get a big ole fat man to move out of it's shadow"....If you kno what I mean. But, then again I think of what I will have to put-out to get all of those qualities, ie., 22,000.00 Gold Bling and that's when I come to realize that that ole Venture is a bargan with it's 5-year warranty at the discounted price of 15,000.00 that you can easily find. Then, I cross my fingers and hope that Yamaha can see the light and come-up with a better motor with fuel injection, ABS brakes, AM/FM/MP3/CB and so because I like their bikes. O' well, What's life without wishing.....and by tha way, If you are ever at a place where this bike is for demo http://www.triumphrocket.com/ make sure you ride it because It will give you a whole new take on big-bike performance. Whew!
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I am looking at converting my 06 to fuel injection and I have a few questions some of you might be able to help with. The first thing is carb spacing on the Venture. Now if anyone has removed their carbs from the bike (second gen) or has a spaer set sitting around and if you could post or send me the spacing outside to outside and inside to inside, (center to center) on the side to side and front to back measurements that would be a big help. I want to see which FI throttle body setup comes the closest to that spacing so mounting will involve the least amount of custom work on spacing. Second is how are the coils triggered to fired and is the firing order still odd fire. is there a trigger wheel or sensor somewhere i can't find. Here is what I am planning on doing and I am open to any help / suggestions given. So far I have purchased a set of R1 throttle bodies ($120.00). These are from a bike putting out 135 hp at 13,000 (?) rpm and I think the fuel and air flow should be more then enough for a 1300 cc, 98 hp, 5,000 rpm engine and the wiring harness ($50.00). The throttle body I bought came with all the sensors still in place along with the injectors and wiring. The only sensors I need to add is the air flow sensor and a water temp sensor. I’m looking at installing the air flow sensor it in the tee fitting right before the air boxes that sit on top of the current carbs. The water temp I am going to purchase a second water temp housing and see if there is enough room to drill and tap it for a second temp sending unit. I am going to go with the Microsquirt ECU ($400.00) to handle fuel delivery only for now but it will handle a ton of other features also. So far the only issue I’m running into is the throttle bodies, I may have to go with a set off another manufacture so I can adjust the spacing correctly as the ones I bought have a fixed spacing between each pair. Now I am going to be working on this when the weather isn’t so good and the bike could be down for a few days at a time. As I work along I’ll keep you guys posted on progress and problems. Also if anyone can foresee and issues that are already know please let me know as I really don’t want to invest a bunch of cash on a project that isn’t going to work. Thanks....
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