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Nicely done. Cells are formatted with absolute references to make it very easy to copy RPM's to higher ranges. I would guess you have some experience with Excel. Gary

This may be the reason my rear fender has been slightly crooked all summer. It is tilted to one side enough to be annoying for the HD guys I ride with. They see that view most of the time. Not just because I am that much faster, it's just quieter when I ride in front. Gary

If you knew the circumference of the rear tire you could then start to make some calculations. All the ratios are there to do this. An excel spreadsheet would be real handy for this. Somewhere I seem to remember a chart that was posted with some figures along this line. Pegscrapper comes to mind, but that is a guess. Gary

Six hours seems to be a reasonable amount of time to do that work. But I am not really sure what they are thinking they are going to see in there except a snapped rod, a hole in the case from said rod, a mangled piston from being forced into the heads and some certainly bent valves. Possibly a bent crankshaft as well. It's not like there are any user maintenance items inside the motor. Aside from on board diagnostics of a computers memory, which I have not heard of the RSV having, and your statements the bike had oil, was not being abused etc., what are they going to see in there? If it's under warranty, it should be covered. This is assuming you have reasonable records and haven't done anything radical to the bike like after market pipes or similar mods. Trailer hitch you mentioned doesn't seem like it would void warranty outright. Gary

6 hours/$600 dollars ?? Just to look at it, then maybe deny the claim. Did they kiss you right after telling you they were going to screw you? Gary

I was in second grade, so you are getting really close to the big 5-0, Miss Thing. Gary

I remember what I was doing when I heard about Challenger & Columbia. Also remember exact moment I heard about JFK. Gary

I added the Royal Star info to the first post. I found manual online that listed gear teeth & ratios. The Royal Star numbers are interesting, all indicate a significant change towards losing low end power and acceleration capabilities. Gary

I started another thread, expanding a little on Randys gear ratio findings. I thought a few others may see it that may not look at this thread. Not wanting to seem like an attention whore though. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?threadid=56189 Gary

Randya started discussing ratios in the following thread. This was regarding some work he is doing to his bike this winter. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?postid=551974#post551974 I thought I would start a new thread along these lines hoping to give a little better understanding to where all those ratio numbers come from. I confuse easily, so here is same info in a different format. All numbers are from the corresponding bikes service manuals. 1st Gen Ratios (From 1986 Service Manual) Primary reduction 87/49 (1.776) Secondary Reduction- Middle Drive 21/27 (0.778) x Final Drive 33/10 (3.300) -- Total Reduction (2.567) 1st 39/15 (2.600) 2nd 39/22 (1.772) 3rd 31/23 (1.347) 4th 31/29 (1.068) 5th 29/32 (0.906) Royal Star Ratios (From 1996 Service Manual) Primary reduction 85/51 (1.666) Secondary Reduction- Middle Drive 21/27 (0.778) x Final Drive 33/10 (3.300) -- Total Reduction (2.567) 1st 39/16 (2.437) 2nd 30/19 (1.578) 3rd 29/25 (1.160) 4th 29/32 (0.906) 5th 21/28 (0.750) RSV Ratios (From 1999 Service Manual) Primary reduction 87/49 (1.776) Secondary Reduction- Middle Drive 21/27 (0.778) x Final Drive 33/10 (3.300) -- Total Reduction (2.567) 1st 43/17 (2.529) 2nd 31/19 (1.632) 3rd 30/25 (1.200) 4th 24/25 (0.960) 5th 22/28 (0.786) 1st Gen VMax Ratios (From 1995 Service Manual) Primary reduction 87/49 (1.776) Secondary Reduction- Middle Drive 21/27 (0.778) x Final Drive 33/9 (3.667) -- Total Reduction (2.851) 1st 43/17 (2.529) 2nd 39/22 (1.772) 3rd 31/23 (1.347) 4th 28/26 (1.076) 5th 26/28 (0.928) The primary gear reduction is between the crankshaft and the clutch pack. The secondary gear reduction is from the middle drive through the rear axle gear case. All of the gear reductions first list the driven gear # of teeth, followed by the drive gear # of teeth, this ratio is then shown last. For a given comparison between the four bikes listed, the higher the ratio number, the more acceleration & low end power the bike will have. Lower numbers translate into higher speed. This is when comparing the same point in the drive train. In the case of the secondary gear reduction, there are 2 sets of gears. 1st is the middle drive set, followed by the rear axle drive set. The secondary gear sets also accomplish the task of taking the engine/transmission rotation and turning it first 90 degrees to attach to the drive shaft, then 90 degrees again to drive the rear wheel. In the case of the Vmax, the power increase that is often discussed in the rear axle gears. These gears have 9 teeth on the drive gear and 33 teeth on the driven gear.The 1st and 2nd Gen Ventures and the Royal Star all have 10 teeth on the drive gear and 33 teeth on the driven gear. The VMax ratio provides for more acceleration and low end power, but sacrifices top end speed. Three bikes, 1st Gen, RSV & VMax have the same primary gear ratio, and middle gear ratio. The difference is in the transmission & rear axle drive ratios. The Royal Star also has a different primary ratio in addition to the transmission & rear axle drive ratios. What this all translates to as it moves through the drive train is shown next. 1st picture shows inside of clutch housing looking up and forward towards the gear on the end of the crankshaft. Only the back quadrant of the gear can be seen. This gear is on the center line of the drive shaft, on right side. This gear mates to the clutch pack seen in next picture. The clutch pack provides a means of interrupting the flow of power to the transmission. The friction discs in the clutch pack are connected to the outer clutch housing, which has the larger gear seen at the bottom of the clutch pack. The steel plates are attached to the inner clutch boss. When the clutch lever is depressed, these two sets of plates allow the motor to rotate, while the transmission is not turning. The shaft that is in the center of the 1st picture is the main axle shaft of the transmission. [ATTACH]53660[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]53661[/ATTACH] The 3rd & 4th pictures are of the transmission assembly. 3rd picture is of a 1st gen main & drive axle assembly. Top is main axle, gears left to right are 5th, 2nd 3rd, 4th, 1st. Bottom is drive axle, gears left to right are Middle Drive gear (Bevel cut, Helical gear), 5th (machined on shaft), 2nd 3rd, 4th, 1st. 4th picture is a cut from the 1st gen VMax service manual showing these in the lower motor case. [ATTACH]53662[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]53663[/ATTACH] 5th picture is of rear axle gear case. Drive shaft attaches on left side and drives another set of bevel cut, helical gears. Drive gear is inside case. 6th picture shows driven ring gear. [ATTACH]53665[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]53664[/ATTACH] Gary

Ok Pops, Do you want to go faster? Or go quicker? They are not the same. I like quicker, more acceleration. Some things you can do to the scoot will help one and hurt the other. Doing 130mph isn't as fun as it used to be. Gary

Are any of these recommended tires Radials? Does anyone have comments on using radials on a 1st gen? From what I have seen, a motorcycle radial is a different critter from a car tire radial in the sense of the sidewall bulging that is common with car tires. I need tires before spring also. Gary

Steve, Get a hold of member saltcreep. He is running the ignitech module in a 92 Venture. He may be able to help you with the program file you need. His file should work for you. It is only about 3kb in size, easily emailed. File name will be xxxxx.ign. X's will be different in his file name. It can be saved from what is in the bikes module. If you or he heed help to retrieve the file call me and I will assist. Gary

Here is a picture of the bearing in question on my FJR rear end, which I realize is way out on a limb here. But, in the FJR service manual, it appears the same as the 1st & 2nd gen arrangements. This bearing should be exposed to gear oil an all three. But I am the village idiot when it comes to RSV's. Gary http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af193/gdingy101/PICT5385s.jpg

Looking at the RSV service manual (which is never wrong, i jest) it shows the left side bearing should be exposed to oil, seal appears to be on outboard side. Picture below is from 1999 service manual, page 7-87 for reference.. #3 is thrust washer, below that is needle bearing, then the seal, last is a collar. This is almost identical to the first Gens. Never have seen one, so I very well may be wrong. (Edit) Per Rick Butler's previous post, then is the bearing actually on the very outboard side of the housing? How is it protected from dirt? How different can rear end be, I thought RSV's could use a Vmax as a drop in replacement, which will drop in a 1st gen. Gary http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af193/gdingy101/rearend.jpg

The needle bearing should not need greased. It is exposed to 90 weight gear oil from inside of the differential. The service manual recommends 'lightweight lithium-soap base grease' when installing though. Not sure if putting wheel bearing grease on this bearing is a good idea or not. Gary

Attached are screen shots of just the mufflers from the 85 MKI & the 86-87 MKII from the parts fiche. 1st is MKI, 2nd is MKII Couple of differences are the tail extension and the welded on "flag mount". Gary

Now isn't it more enjoyable when we can see the humor in a joke, and remember some of the friendships we made over the years. And I know the Air Force guys do a heck of a lot more than cry about their email, My nephew was a tail boomer on a CK 130 tanker. Fairly boring job 95% of the time, but the hook up time was real intense. And fairly dangerous flying around in a plane that had its own fuel, and as much more as it could carry for cargo. Gary

Which Branch of the Service Do Your Prefer? An Army grunt stands in the rain with a 35 pound pack on his back, 15 pound weapon in hand, after having marched 12 miles, and says, "This is crap!" An Army Airborne Ranger stands in the rain with a 45 pound pack on his back, 15 pound weapon in hand, after having jumped from an airplane and marched 18 miles, and says with a smile, "This is good crap!" A Navy SEAL lies in the mud, 55 pound pack on his back, 15 pound weapon in hand, after having had a 10 mile swim to shore, a five crawl through swamps, and a 25 mile march in jungle, at night, through enemy positions, says with a grin, "This really is great crap." A Marine, up to his nose in the stinking, bug-infested mud of a swamp with a 65 pound pack on his back and a 15 pound weapon in each hand, after jumping from an aircraft at high altitude, into the ocean, swimming 12 miles to the shore, killing several alligators to enter the swamp, then crawling 30 miles through the brush to assault an enemy camp, says, "I love this crap." An Air Force NCO sits in an easy chair in an air conditioned, carpeted office and says, "My e-mail's out? What kind of crap is this?"

A guy is driving around the back woods of Tennessee and he sees a sign in front of a broken down shanty-style house: Talking Dog for Sale He rings the bell and the owner appears and tells him the dog is in the backyard. The guy goes into the backyard and sees a nice looking Labrador retriever sitting there. "You talk?" he asks. "Yep," the Lab replies. After the guy recovers from the shock of hearing a dog talk, he says "So, what's your story?" The Lab looks up and says, "Well, I discovered that I could talk when I was pretty young. I wanted to help the government, so I told the CIA and they had me sworn into the toughest branch of the armed services ... The United States Marine Corps... You know one of their nicknames is "The Devil Dogs." In no time at all they had me jetting from country to country, sitting in rooms with spies and world leaders; because no one figured a dog would be eavesdropping. I was one of their most valuable spies for eight years running, but the jetting around really tired me out and I knew I wasn't getting any younger. So, I decided to settle down. I retired from the Corps (8 dog years is 56 Corps years) and signed up for a job at the airport to do some undercover security, wandering near suspicious characters and listening in." "I uncovered some incredible dealings and was awarded a batch of medals.. I got married, had a mess of puppies, and now I'm just retired." The guy is amazed. He goes back in and asks the owner what he wants for the dog. "Ten dollars," the guy says. "Ten dollars? This dog is amazing! Why on earth are you selling him so cheap?" "Because he's a liar! He never did any of that crap. He was in the Air Force!"

A farmer was selling his peaches door to door. He knocked on a door and a shapely 30-something woman dressed in a very sheer negligee answered the door. He raised his basket to show her the peaches and asked, "Would you like to buy some peaches?" She pulled the top of the negligee to one side and asked, "Are they as firm as this?" He nodded his head and said, "Yes ma'am," and a little tear ran from his eye. Then she pulled the other side of her negligee off asking, "Are they nice and pink like this?" The farmer said, "Yes," and another tear came from the other eye. Then she unbuttoned the bottom of her negligee and asked, "Are they as fuzzy as this?" He again said, "Yes," and broke down crying. She asked, "Why on earth are you crying?" Drying his eyes he replied, "The drought got my corn, the flood got my soy beans, a tornado leveled my barn, I voted for Obama and now I think I'm gonna .. Get screwed out of my peaches....

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I seem to remember reading that if the 2nd gear fix had been done by a dealer, that there would be a center punch mark in the frame by the serial # label. Don't know if this is correct though. Gary

Some fuel injected cars have the filter inside the gas tank, same place as the fuel pump. Gary