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Barry, The 89 uses Yamaha Number 1NL-84303-A0-00 HEADLIGHT UNIT ASS''Y Item #1 http://parts.yamaha-motor.com/partimage.gifx?d=123359,4,0 I see this used on the 1986 to 1993 1st Gen Ventures I don't think the earlier ones are the same at all... but not positive... the parts diagrams say they aren't. Yours is a "shell" with rather important "mount lugs"... About $146 new... Sounds like time to call a few salvage yards...
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I, personally, don't think that string tied to the back of his coat is going to hold him back... Now if he was on a second gen Venture... (hee... har...)
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Odd starter clutch failure
mbrood replied to mbrood's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I talked to john about their clutch... http://bergall.org/temp/venture/starter/start2.jpg He said they take a STOCK clutch/rotor assembly and machine the rotor to accept heavier and longer bolts to hold the clutch on. He said the failures he designed to get around was the weak bolt mounting technique that Yamaha designed. His claim... no more bolts working loose. He said this was done primarily for the VMax that turns at higher RPM and sees more "abuse". Looking at the rotor, the bolts come in from the back into the inside edge and actually cut part way into the contour of the center shaft flange. I figure they machine around these bolt holes to create a larger flat area and probably use an insert for more and deeper thread, or they may just go with a longer bolt backed up with a locking nut. Either way would definitely improve the design. -
My floats are the earlier (86) type... hollow blow molded styrene... I guess SOME were prone to open at the seam and leak... devastating but repairable. Yours are some type of foam? Heck, most foam I've seen will STILL soak up a bit... beads of plastic with air pockets between... As long as you checked the level and fuel fed by the pump didn't show leaks, I sure BELIEVE you are ready for a remount... Except I'm still a bit concerned WHERE you found those bits of "metal flake" and if you tried to start her, you might have drawn them further into the carbs? I'm totally sympathetic to your efforts to get to the meet but REALLY glad that you decided to get it running "right" at home rather than some place down the road. I've had no luck on the road hoping for hope, so a few more EXTRA tools always seem to be on my bikes... always hoping it helps somebody else but a silent "gift" to myself.
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This, instant video and chat, is a whole different vein of effort.. inventive and probably a darned good trend... IF you can get folks in sync. If you blew UP the float needle seat with cleaner... that's great, and then clean the float needle and seat from below. I really don't think the float levers change much (if any) with proper handling but the seats sure are tempermental to tiny bits of gunk. Did you SHAKE each float to listen for any trapped fuel that may have got inside a leaking float? You found trace of METAL FLAKE from a recent nearby paint job? My wife would smile and say "You pulled a Michael." A simple task with nasty, unexpected side effects. At least the fuel FILL part is easy to check on assembly, take each and pump them full with the drain screw cracked and the drain tube elevated... lower it and check the level. If everything is to spec., there won't be any later spewing fuel out an orifice and you should be good to go. Be carefull when you remount the carbs, I try and center them in the mount plates. Any stress to the lower mount boots by misalignment seems to lead to stress cracks and leaks shortly down the line. I always try and eye-ball the carb bank when they are ready to remount to see that they ALL seem to WANT to seat in the boots nicely.
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An easy check... hold the rubber DRAIN tube up HIGH and open the drain screw and then SLOWLY lower the tube... you will see fluid hit the end at SOME height and THAT is roughly the level of the gas in the bowl. It SHOULD be near the center-line of the diaphragm needle. Yep, sounds like your floats are leaking air and sinking (bowl fills forever) or there's some junk lodged in the float needle seat keeping it open (bowl fills forever) or a damaged float needle seat. On a "good" set of carbs, you can actually take a very accurate float fuel level check by doing the above with the key ON... That lets the pump make up for the tiny bit that bled into the drain tube.
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You can always get the carb bank OUT... then hook a fuel line from the pump and hook it to the fuel rail on top of the carbs and turn the key on... No need to squint or wonder.
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The fuel leak might be coming from the fuel bowl cover. I dusted mine with talc and THEN could see the weeping at the seal area... I say stop all fuel leaks and THEN worry about getting it running... no sense wasting a fire extinguisher...
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The 85 backrest IS different... about 2 inches wider than the 83 and 84. I believe only THAT year had "VENTURE" impressed into the middle of the backrest. The earlier ones just have a diamond pattern.
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Odd starter clutch failure
mbrood replied to mbrood's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
There sure isn't anything there to say WHAT is special or going to be so great... I still see three springs, spring cups and dowels... for $180. http://bergall.org/temp/venture/starter/start2.jpg Do you have relevant info? I figured on replacing the ilde gear, cups, springs and dowels... $58.24 -
Odd starter clutch failure
mbrood posted a topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Well, I tore into the starter clutch. It would "bang and grind" every once in a while and since it's a good time of year, I figured what the heck. Once I got it off, I looked down at the pillow, laid there to 'catch" the flying rotor (thanks guys.. that's a marvelous money saving trick!) and I saw three dowels, two spings and two spring cups... TWO??? The bronze (or???) housing that the springs and dowels fit into had ONE spring cup still in it... slightly recessed... so IT was NOT doing it's job. So I tried to tease it out by gently pushing it in (VERY slight movement)... after an hour I was able to get it flush with the edge. After another hour I was able to get it to wiggle out about 1/3rd. I finally got it out and saw that the sides looked ok... (IT'S on the left). http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/starter/starter%20clutch2.jpg So I blew out the recessed hole it sat in with WD40 and tried slipping in one of the other spring and cups and it slid in and bounced up and down just fine. I started really looking at the three spring cups. ONE had the open end just pristine but TWO had edge damage and the one that had hung up actually had a nick (or future chip?) that was hanging out... the outer diameter of the three is .248 and the open end at the nick spot was .252! Must have been just enough to snag and disable a third of the clutch! (The "offending" cup is still on the right.) http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/starter/starter%20clutch3.jpg The parts fiche shows an odd part in the bottom of that recess, no part number though. SOMETHING is causing the edge to chip and this just is NOT a good thing. Either the spring cup has too much slop in the hole (sure doesn't feel like it or that .004 "nick" would still fit?)) or the cups are bottoming into something and chipping. Nonetheless, it's enough that it caused the cup to seize. The idle gear #2, that has the race attached that the dowels drive against, had a distinctive "dance mark" pattern where the dowels had driven in so that's an easy solution to repair... http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/starter/starter%20clutch1.jpg I figure, once the bike starts, centrifugal force throws the dowels back against the springs and the cups are driven deep into the hole and maybe THAT is what leads to the chipping...? Any ideas? The bike only has about 46,000 miles. Here's a breakdown of needed parts from two web sites and my local Yamaha shop... and the shop wonders why I won't buy from them??? Flatout Zanotti North County Yamaha Bolt (3 needed) 91316-08014-00 .99 .80 2.48 Gear Idler #2 26H-15517-00-00 29.86 28.64 46.67 Whole Starter Clutch 11H-15580-00-00 74.54 73.68 109.24 Dowle Pin (3) 93615-12088-00 1.64 1.57 2.55 Spring Cap (3) 341-15583-05-00 4.76 4.57 7.44 Spring (3) 90501-04623-00 1.59 1.52 2.46 Left engine case gasket 3JP-15451-00-00 5.10 4.89 7.97 Rear case gasket 3JP-15461-00-00 1.80 1.73 2.97 -
I believe these are made by Hitachi. I have a local bike shop that is "generic" and one of the absolute FEW that would even think of working on a 20 year old bike. They have quite a few connectors in their service area... all I have to do is take the bike over so they can match it up... even has NEW crimp pins for making up a "Y" connector. I'm with you, no matter HOW I make a mod, I want to be able to get BACK to stock if desired. The local Yamaha dealership must think they are in Beverly Hills, they will only work on SOME older bikes but would prefer them to be less than 5 years old and NOTHING over 10 and as for parts... "If it's not in the micro fiche breakdown, we don't sell it"... I asked about possibly selling me some small repair parts they might have in the service area and they looked at me like I was speaking Russian. The "generic" shop figures they are there to keep happy customers... what a concept, huh. It's so nice to have them around and I've found they will even beat the price on stuff that HAS to come from Yamaha that the "factory shop" quotes.
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EVERYBODY should be warned about Dihydrogen-monoxide. It's been known to kill livestock, children, elderly and even HEALTHY adults. It's also a major contributor to our weather changes.
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California VR Emission model
mbrood replied to okscooter's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I bought my bike out of state and brought it here. I had a 26 year old female DMV inspector look and look for the "EPA" sticker... said I was going to have to put the "emissions" equipment BACK ON. I even had the owners manual that shows all the proper stickers. She wasn't going to go for it so I asked for her supervisor. Another female came out... a bit older but not a lot... looked at the paperwork, looked at the manufacture date (86), checked the chassis and engine VIN and passed me through. I understand that the California "version" was required to sell NEW in the state of LaLaLand. Basically just a vapor canister for fuel vapor! Sounds like a rather poor joke at best.- 10 replies
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I have some shims for my 78 XS-750 and believe they are 29mm across and was wondering what the diameter is for the Venture. There are, of course, some large similarities between the two bikes... and the 750 even came with the plastic "dipstick" for checking the pumpkin oil level. I always thought it was cute... because after several years I found the oil level was fine, if it WAS low, was due to my using the dipstick! Routine oil change was always clean and clear. These are some tough bikes. And yeah, it had the same "soft thrust washer" that could cause 2nd gear problems like the early 1st Gen bikes.
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nice '86 on e-bay
mbrood replied to TxVenture's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I think he means this one in Katy, TX http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Yamaha-Royal-Star-Venture-Royale-head-turner_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ50045QQihZ017QQitemZ270209021513QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW http://i21.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/d7/63/70fb_12.JPG Current bid $2,750.00 Buy It Now for $3,500.00 -
A friend's 84 radio was troubled. Somemimes it was ok, sometimes it would "blink" once or twice when riding and then the presets were always dropping out. After looking things over A LOT... I thought maybe it was dirty connections deep in the bucket where the radio "rack" drops in and connects up to power, the amp and speakers... we sprayed the connectors with contact cleaner and added dialectric grease. This seemed to help a bit but not fully. We took out the screws holding the LOWER connectors (in the bottom of the bucket) and put a small washer under the connectors so the connectors were shoved UP by the washer. This gave a TINY bit of more DEPTH to the mated connection and seemed to have solved it all. (yes, these tiny screws are backed with nuts and washers! (grr) Our idea was that the connectors don't mate real good and that the lower bucket also flexes a bit when the radio "rack" is intalled and between the two it was probably just sitting on the connectors making it "iffy". As a side note, my 86 "rack" gets to a bit under 1/4" closed when I feel a strong resistance and then that "mating slide" feel. My presets are rock solid. My friend's originally had less than 1/8th with a "mush" feel when it seated in the "rack locks". And yeah, when ever you get down there, make sure and disconnect ALL connectors, clean them up and grease them!
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It's a scam. The old "I'm your local banker" just isn't there anymore. They are following the "sheep" mentality... "We are going to raise your interest rate because... you won't bother to do anything about it... and because... a: you have zero balance (paid in time) b: your check to the utility company was late by a day (out of 12 years!) c: your "other activities" are under question. (somebody didn't think you NEEDED to buy that motorcycle... "unexpected activity") They fully expect you to bow your head and TAKE the rate hike... then they use that to "hit" others. Don't be a sheep. Pay on time, keep the creditors informed of ANY problems and tell them HOW you will (can) work with them. DUMP those that won't work with you. One of mine jumped to 29% because I wasn't keeping a "minimum balance". Minimum balance? I used the card and then paid the balance off. They told me they REALLY want to see about 20% on the available credit used (paid monthly at the minimum payment at 29%)... that shows I'm a "loyal" customer. I asked if THAT would reduce the rate and the gal said, "No, but it shows you are a loyal customer." WE don't work for them. They work for OUR dollar. Like any company, if the workers don't perform, try to negotiate and then drop them.
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Can somebody post the different sources and part numbers needed so I can archive it... these old things need help from time to time and Mitzubishi acts ignorant!
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My dad was a mechanic when I was a young kid. The first time he "let" me overhaul the lawnmower... he watched me close all through teardown, new piston and rings, hone the cylinder and then button her up... then he reached ito my "parts bucket" and pulled out a short bolt. "Where does THIS go?", he asked. What a moment of panic. I thought about all the steps and said I REALLY didn't think it was off the mower because all of the parts were properly bolted. He smiled and tossed it BACK up on the workbench. "Yep, ya gotta KNOW you put it together right!" Grrrrr... But a HUGE lesson.
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Mine is the Urushi 86... just looks black until under good sun and then the cherry color comes out. http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/mine.jpg The 1986 Venture sales brochure lists: Venture in Midnight Silver VR in either Urushi Black or Birch Brown and SHOWS the Utushi Black with Marshall Gold, the plain Venture with what LOOKS like the Urushi Black (midnight?) and "silver" highlight and another Royale I "suppose" must be the Birch Brown and Copper Brown. http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/brochure-a.jpg http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/brochure-b.jpg http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/brochure-c.jpg
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Brake Covers
mbrood replied to vmax thumper's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I believe there are two types, due to the different caliper or something, one style for the 83-85 and a slightly different one for the 86-93. The "other" thing to consider is that NEW ones sold with a replacement hub spacer that is "shaved" narrower by the tickness of the two covers so the fork tubes stay aligned. Without that, "YOU" get to do the shaving with the help of a machine shop and your original. -
Touch up paint
mbrood replied to Z Factor's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
It's an odd problem... but the coloring on yours DOES look great. I almost got an 87 in that color because I thought it looked so sharp. but decided on the Urushi 86... just looks black until under good sun and then the cherry color comes out. http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/mine.jpg The 1986 Venture sales brochure lists: Venture Midnight Silver VR Urushi Black or Birch Brown and SHOWS the Utushi Black, the plain Venture with a "silver" highlight and another Royale with a perfect match to the fairing piece I posted earlier. http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/brochure-a.jpg http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/brochure-b.jpg http://www.bergall.org/temp/venture/brochure-c.jpg Now I believe birch "bark" is almost a stark white while birch wood is normally a honey color... and I've NEVER seen an 86 in anything but the Urushi or the two colors shown on that fairing piece. What ever the heck they really are. Just to add to the confusion, using the 2002 Road Star Silverado and looking at Color Rite, they list Imperial Brown as a Taupe variant. By the way, I've NEVER heard of an 87 in Urushi Black. And why Color Rite dropped these years from their charts is another question.. is it all some deep secret? And we shouldn't miss the complications of some "different" colors found in Canada and Europe??? -
I'm in for a PC680. No reason to buy another regular that lasts a year! Thanks for the effort... money sent. Mike Brood
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Touch up paint
mbrood replied to Z Factor's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
That picture is from a 1986 Venture for sale and that year's colors were the wonderful Black Cherry and the above.