dingy
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From the album: Family bike pictures
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From the album: Family bike pictures
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What did you do with pin stripping? Hand sand down or chemical? Gary
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I would like to have the Kilo speedometer, would make me think it went even faster !!
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Does anyone have access to a readable copy of the 90-93 wiring schematic. The one that is in the 86-93 service manual is unreadable. I am nearing completion of redrawn schematics for the 86-93 models similar to the one I did for the 83-85 models. I can see that the three major changes to the 90-93 is the pick up coil change, fuel pump control relay & TCI unit. I need a readable schematic to get wire colors correct. Gary
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Here is a link to a schematic for the 83-85 that is easier to read. Possibly bad canceling unit. I do have a schematic of the flasher relay done now if that would help you. Its more than a standard auto type flasher. [ame=http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=40948]Updated easier to read 83-85 wiring schematic - VentureRider.Org[/ame] Gary
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Remove instrument cluster
dingy replied to nitespecter's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Attached is a picture showing two 10mm cap screws that hold cluster in place. They are just above the 45 deg angle in the bulb bracket in picture. Use a long extension to reach. You will also need to remove windshield. There are two screws on each side. Gary -
How hard was the pin stripping to get off ? Did you sand stripes all the way down or use chemical to remove ? Dingy
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I started another thread so if any one had downloaded prior versions they would see the update. With help from Ozlander I believe that this is about as good as I can get this schematic. I have added the internal wiring on relays & rectifier. Added coil resistance on relays, generator & ignition coils. Added ignition coil #'s and location on bike. Added bulb p/n's. Cleaned up the wiring in handle bar switch area some more. Overall I have eliminated as many wire crosses as I can. Electrically, this matches what is in the owners manual. I didn't show internal wiring for flasher relay as it is fairly complex, not just a standard flasher. This looks best at 11" x 17" size. Office Max or Staples can print in color at that size for about a dollar. Dingy
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Probably won't work on newer ones. Brazed a nut to the handlebar nut. Heavy Duty velcro. saw similar idea on here or other web site. They had used a coupling nut in place of handle bar nut. This nut is odd size, could not find coupling nut that would work. Radar detector mount is made out of two old mirrors cut & brazed together and a new mounting plate.
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Here are a few pictures showing my first Venture. An 84 Royale. Chrome turn signal covers, master cyl. rear pig, drive shaft housing, kickstand, center stand, levers, rear foot peg brackets, swing arm, side cover parts. Wish I still had this one.
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I have one, donated by Tupperj Thanks Dingy
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I just checked my 83 Venture with an ohm meter, and the brake circuits are Normally Open, as sitting in bike. The circuit closes when I pull brake lever. Did not check clutch. I would term this a Normally Open contact since as it sets in the bike it is N.O.. Granted when the switch is out of the bike & you bench tested it it would appear Normally Closed. Which designation is more accurate ?? I will work at adding relay circuits, but some may be difficult as I don,t have a canceling unit to open up. Sidestand, fuel pump, fan & starting relays are straight forward. Won't be able to do much with the reserve lighting, gauge panel or ignitor as they are all electronic. I think I saw a wiring for the rectifier/regulator on this site or somewhere, if some one has one handy, please send it to me. Don't have any idea on the pressure sensor other than a normal switch behind a diaphragm. I will change nomenclature on Front, Rear brakes & Clutch to Pull/Free. Sidestand I had revised to Up/Down, it was Push/Free which confused me. I will add coil info Ozlander furnished. Dingy
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FrankD gave me a correction to the coil pickup wire colors. The common wire to the coils is Black, not Orange as original schematic shows. The black wire is still used, just not common. Also changed shape of the coil pickup wire connector to match what is on my bike. Schematic in original post updated to Rev C Thanks Frank Dingy
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I have reloaded schematic in my original post. Now named Wiring Diagram Rev B I was partially wrong about key switch having five wires. My 83 has four wires. Bike does not have CLASS system. I have an extra key switch & wiring harness from an 84 Royale, these both have five wires. The service manual shows in the supplementary area a fifth wire with the CLASS system, it's a Red/Blue color. I received an 86-93 service manual from Ozlander and saw how its was formatted. I made more changes to clean this one up more, especially in regulator-generator area. Also in lower right by Brake fluid level sensors. I added N.O. (Normally Open) or N.C. (Normally Closed) by most of the switches. By some of the connectors, I have put a letter in parenthesis to indicate color of connectors. Went to Office Max last night and they printed a color print of this for me for a dollar. Staples can also do it. Just take PDF file to them. If you want me to I'll send you one for what it costs me. Large envelope is a dollar, print is a dollar & postage. About 3 dollars total.
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I am finding numerous errors in what is shown on the original schematic as compared to what is on my 83 bike. One is there are five wires coming out of key switch, schematic shows four. Another is the side stand , fuel pump relays, fuel pump, fan motor & rectifier do not show black wire as ground, when it is. I will post another PDF when I get some of this traced out this weekend. Dingy
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I have a copy of the 86-93 wiring now. It looks way better than the 83-85 one. I will work on putting some line types in it. I am going to work some more on the one I did to clean it up some more, now that I have seen 86-93 schematic and some of the things done on it. Ignition coil info would still be nice to add if anyone has it. Dingy
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If someone will send me a scan of one I will work on it. This did take some time to do & check. Dingy
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I was able to open from Web site. It is done in Acrobat Pro 7.0 Below is link to latest adobe reader. http://get.adobe.com/reader/ Dingy
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I have drawn my wiring schematic into my CAD drafting program. Reason being I am adding cruise control from an 84. This will make it easier for me to do this. Attached is a PDF of schematic. I have tried to make it easier to read by adding some line types & colors so the wiring is easier to follow. There is a color code chart is at the lower left. I rearranged some of the components to eliminate wires crossing unnecessarily. The schematic is the same as the original in the 83-85 owners manual electrically, just rearranged. The only thing I am not sure about is the Diode pack, my bike only one diode in it. The block schematic shows three diodes in the circuit. The wiring schematic indicated two diodes. I did correct an error or two I found in the schematic, one being the ACC terminals in the fuse block. I would like to add the Ignition coil #'s if someone could furnish those also. I changed the graphics for the rear brake switch to match the front brake & clutch switches. It prints out best at 11" x 17" but few of you probably have a laser jet that size. Not to mention a color one. If anyone wants an 11 x 17 B&W copy, I will mail you one for the postage & envelope cost, probably a dollar. I am going to stop at Staples tonight and see if they can do color 11 x 17 prints if anyone is interested. I can get B&W prints up to 24" x 36". Dingy
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I am looking for a passenger backrest from a 83-85 Venture. I do not need the trunk. I don't care what condition the leather or padding is in. I am going to discard this. I primarily need the plastic shell that leather is attached to . I have an idea to modify this to allow for speakers to be mounted into backrest similar to a HD Ultra Classic Electra Glide. I have an Amish leather shop nearby that has done work for me in the past that can do custum work. If you have one that I can get cheap please contact me. Dingy
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Vibration reduction of Instrument Cluster on 83-85 Venture. I have experienced a lot of vibration / bouncing of my instrument cluster on my 83 Venture when riding on rough roads. I recently had the cluster off of the bike and found that the two brackets that mount the cluster to the fairing sub frame had excessive play in them. There is a rubber grommet over a shoulder stud at two points on each bracket for vibration dampening. I placed a new 3/8” washer between the existing washer and bracket to reduce the free play in the brackets. The 3/8” washer will fit over the shoulder of the stud allowing the bracket to slightly compress the grommet some more. The existing washer is replaced back over new washer and will only allow the nut to be tightened until contact with the shoulder of the stud. When the washer is placed correctly and the bracket is bolted back on the cluster, the threads of the stud will be about even with the back of the 10 mm nut when tightened. With this modification in place, the vibration of the cluster has been significantly reduced. There is still some flexing of the cluster that will absorb road vibration, but not nearly as much as before. The 4 conductor connector in the1st picture is for my shift position lights. The mounting bracket for the cluster is removed in this picture. The mounting studs for it are to the top left and bottom right of the electrical connector. The second picture shows where I placed washers. Gary
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Thank You, This will be very helpful. Gary
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Thank You, I will try to add it to my existing one then, I have traced it out in AutoCad so I can print it out larger.
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The schematic that is in the service manual in taht section is the one for the stock venture. I am looking for one from a Royale. The cruise is covered in the supplementary manual for the royale but does not include a detailed schematic, it shows a block diagram only. I am looking for wire colors and connector shapes that are shown on the detailed schematic.