ken Posted February 19, 2011 Share #1 Posted February 19, 2011 Ok it’s official! I’m an idiot. So here’s how I discovered this. I’ve got my RSV up on the lift for a maintenance. So today I tackled changing the brake fluid and clutch fluid. I did the rear brake and then the front. Everything went smooth as silk. Then came the clutch fluid ,now keep this in mind I’m doing this the old fashion way, (open the bleeder, squeeze the lever, close the bleeder, release the lever and repeat). So I get the fluid in the clutch changed , it feels good. So I decide to started her up and put her in gear to see how she shifts. While it’s running an I put it in gear it dies. Damn, I’m thinking there must be air in the line so I bleed her again, and again. Start her up, shift in to gear it dies. Well, at this point I come inside and log on to the forum and review the tech section again and do a few searches on bleeding the clutch. Every thing seems right. So back out I go and bleed her again, start her up, it dies. Then all at once it hit me like a BRICK! And I though to myself.. YOU IDIOT THE KICK STAND IS DOWN!!!!. I put it up and alls well. I hope I can get a little smarter when I pull the drive shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Bob Posted February 19, 2011 Share #2 Posted February 19, 2011 Ok it’s official! I’m an idiot. So here’s how I discovered this. I’ve got my RSV up on the lift for a maintenance. So today I tackled changing the brake fluid and clutch fluid. I did the rear brake and then the front. Everything went smooth as silk. Then came the clutch fluid ,now keep this in mind I’m doing this the old fashion way, (open the bleeder, squeeze the lever, close the bleeder, release the lever and repeat). So I get the fluid in the clutch changed , it feels good. So I decide to started her up and put her in gear to see how she shifts. While it’s running an I put it in gear it dies. Damn, I’m thinking there must be air in the line so I bleed her again, and again. Start her up, shift in to gear it dies. Well, at this point I come inside and log on to the forum and review the tech section again and do a few searches on bleeding the clutch. Every thing seems right. So back out I go and bleed her again, start her up, it dies. Then all at once it hit me like a BRICK! And I though to myself.. YOU IDIOT THE KICK STAND IS DOWN!!!!. I put it up and alls well. I hope I can get a little smarter when I pull the drive shaft. :doh: Good thing I wouldn't trust MY bike running on MY lift. Otherwise I probably would have had this happen to me too. Glad to hear all is well, Enjoy the ride, Scooter Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted February 19, 2011 Share #3 Posted February 19, 2011 Ken, Any body that works with their hands has been there in one way or another at some point. I will go out on a limb, a bet this will stick in your mind. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted February 19, 2011 Share #4 Posted February 19, 2011 As soon as I read the "title" to your thread, (It's official! I'm an idiot!) I realized I am already a member of that same club...now I dont feel all alone anymore.. I also figured it was your kickstand before I finished reading your posting... Glad you figured it out...!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 Canuck Posted February 19, 2011 Share #5 Posted February 19, 2011 I'm sure we've all been there done that. The only person who doesn't make mistakes is the one who is doing nothing. The older I get the more I forget...that's just the way it is for me anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted February 19, 2011 Share #6 Posted February 19, 2011 And I thought I was the only one that did stuff like that!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneck Posted February 19, 2011 Share #7 Posted February 19, 2011 Look at it this way you don't have to wonder if you got all of the old fluid flushed out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG TOM Posted February 19, 2011 Share #8 Posted February 19, 2011 And I thought "I" was the only idiot here..........we have all done dumb things....although "yours" was pretty dumb.... :rotf: just kidding !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin-vic-b.c. Posted February 19, 2011 Share #9 Posted February 19, 2011 If I cannot learn from my mistakes..... I am not likely to learn much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted February 19, 2011 Share #10 Posted February 19, 2011 Beat you!!! I done that one Last Year!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted February 19, 2011 Share #11 Posted February 19, 2011 Welcome to the club, and I am the best one to welcome you, for I am the PRESIDENT!!!!! Now that you are an official member, it's time to inform you of other things you might or will do to keep your future interesting. Oh never mind, it's more fun finding it out all by yourself, like when you are in the middle of nowhere, with no cell phone and no traffic, just you and a dead scoot!!!!!! YA!!! then you may contact the Pres and he'll give you the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiCarl Posted February 19, 2011 Share #12 Posted February 19, 2011 Beat you!!! I done that one Last Year!!! Dan's got you beat. The first gen has an idiot light and an indicator that says "Hey idiot, side stand is down." You had the advantage of flying blind:rotf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted February 19, 2011 Share #13 Posted February 19, 2011 Dan's got you beat. The first gen has an idiot light and an indicator that says "Hey idiot, side stand is down." You had the advantage of flying blind:rotf: I was tearing it apart... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted February 19, 2011 Share #14 Posted February 19, 2011 Yes, we all learn from our mistakes, and I'm probably the smartest guy around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradT Posted February 19, 2011 Share #15 Posted February 19, 2011 Look at it this way you don't have to wonder if you got all of the old fluid flushed out. Now that is funny. Brad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royalstar09 Posted February 19, 2011 Share #16 Posted February 19, 2011 By sharing that you just saved someone else from having the same thing happen. We ALL make mistakes daily. Sharing them helps others, and ourselves not make them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon_One Posted February 19, 2011 Share #17 Posted February 19, 2011 I guess this also falls into that category when one fails to notice the kill switch is on. No start Duh Larry BTW: I've been a member of this club for years too. Now I just call these instant's a senior moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes0778 Posted February 19, 2011 Share #18 Posted February 19, 2011 Just don't forget to put the stand back down Before you let the jack down!!!:stirthepot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonTom Posted February 19, 2011 Share #19 Posted February 19, 2011 (edited) YOU IDIOT THE KICK STAND IS DOWN!!!!. I put it up and alls well. I hope I can get a little smarter when I pull the drive shaft.Is there any type of sidestand down warning on a RSV? In my 1984, there are two wires for the kickstand. One kills the engine and the other goes to the monitor. It's easy to wire it in such a way that the engine will not die when the sidestand is down, but will still get the warning on the display. I did this to my 1984 Venture in 1984 when the bike was fairly new. I have heard of the switch failing, even in rather new Ventures, causing the engine to die while riding. IMO, it's safer to NOT have the sidestand kill the engine. And more convenient in many cases. IMO, the display is all that should be needed for a reminder that it's down. -Don- in Rainy SSF, CA Edited February 19, 2011 by DonTom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted February 19, 2011 Share #20 Posted February 19, 2011 Is there any type of sidestand down warning on a RSV? In my 1984, there are two wires for the kickstand. One kills the engine and the other goes to the monitor. It's easy to wire it in such a way that the engine will not die when the sidestand is down, but will still get the warning on the display. I did this to my 1984 Venture in 1984 when the bike was fairly new. I have heard of the switch failing, even in rather new Ventures, causing the engine to die while riding. IMO, it's safer to NOT have the sidestand kill the engine. And more convenient in many cases. IMO, the display is all that should be needed for a reminder that it's down. -Don- in Rainy SSF, CA Yes there is an indicator, The engine dies when you put it in gear..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zane Posted February 19, 2011 Share #21 Posted February 19, 2011 Just don't forget to put the stand back down Before you let the jack down!!!:stirthepot: That is mine! I did that and also let the bike off a jack with the front wheel off! You have no idea what a PITA it is to get a bike off the floor with no front wheel. I had to rock it from side to side while my wife threw blocking under the frame until it was high enough to slide the bike jack under! WHEW! What a B***H that was! Sometimes I wonder if I have half a brain! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midnightventure Posted February 19, 2011 Share #22 Posted February 19, 2011 When I saw the title to this thread I wasn't going to look at it because I thought it was an old thread but then I noticed the date. I'm pretty sure I have seen the same title before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted February 19, 2011 Share #23 Posted February 19, 2011 IMO, it's safer to NOT have the sidestand kill the engine. And more convenient in many cases. IMO, the display is all that should be needed for a reminder that it's down. To each their own, but I feel just the opposite. The possibility with taking off with the sidestand down and the possibility of hitting the start button with the bike in gear and the clutch out when on the sidestand far outweigh any advantage I could think of with what you say. In fact, probably 95% of the time, I use putting the sidestand down as the way to kill the engine when riding. RandyA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brake Pad Posted February 19, 2011 Share #24 Posted February 19, 2011 You have to think of it this way, everything that people write about, fixes, and upgrades, things they have done, are items that should stick in your mind, as teachings. My idiot realm, The wife and I traveling, dragging the trailer, somewhere on the west coast of Florida, we stop for gas, check everything before, starting up. put the bike in natural, go to hit the starter, and nothing. ( Instant panic sets in ) WTF? okay calm down, check the handle bars ( some times you have to learn all over again ) Darn'et, The Kill switch, you moron. The sweat on my brow drys as we roll down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northern Raider Posted February 19, 2011 Share #25 Posted February 19, 2011 By sharing that you just saved someone else from having the same thing happen. We ALL make mistakes daily. Sharing them helps others, and ourselves not make them again. Oh I don't know about that, I can be told something and 5 minutes later do the same thing anyway. I have been a charter member of this IDIOT club for some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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