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Where to put a Shindengen R/R
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Good thought Brian, but the lower fairings were removed quite a while ago because they restricted my knees. Not sure if I'll put them back on although the bike does look better with them. Might only be a temporary solution but decided to mount the R/R on the inside forward part of the left fairing pocket and if it is in the way of the cassette then bye bye old technology. Sure would like to get some opinions regarding mounting it in the space behind the engine above the shock. This would be just a bit above where the aft end of the frame brace bolts to the frame. It's an easy fit if that area does not get too hot. -
I've been looking for a place to install the Shindegen R/R. Still can't seem to make the decision to get rid of the OEM sound system even though it does not work. I like the idea of having a radio and CB. Looks like there might be room in the forward part of the left audio compartment, particularly if the cassette is removed. Don't mind losing that although I don't know if it needs to be attached for the rest of the audio to work. That would be for another thread anyway. Found what looked like the perfect spot just above the rear shock, lots of room, open to the air but kinda close to the rear cylinder exhaust outlets so it might be too hot there. Any thoughts? Another option is to put it in the left cowling air intake. I think someone did that but can't find the thread. Also can't seem to get the grill off. Looks like just one screw holding it but there is a prong on the other side, the inside, that prevents it from coming out. Now I can't get it back in. Everything related to Ventures seems to be so complicated except for riding on the highway. I think I'm feeling frustrated.
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hot starting problem
camos replied to flyingyaks's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
This is a classic example of a faulty neutral switch. There may also be issues with the clutch switch and side stand switch. If it will start in gear with the side stand up and the clutch pulled in then likely it is only the neutral switch has a problem. Unless the neutral switch is actually borken you will need the contact pin and spring, an o-ring that goes around the switch and a middle gear gasket. Not very expensive, probably about $10. -
No, no, no...bolted to a driveway is not good. I vote for the truck hitch so Rocket can come over and mount my tires.
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Info on replacing the stator?
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
So could not get the screw to come out of the cover. Good thing Rocket brought his spare cover over. We got it back together but when I fired up the engine it is still only charging at 12v. One leg of the windings were black in the old one so it definitely had a problem but at this point don't know if it was THE problem. Found the pickup had a crack in the backside, cleaned it good and put some RTV over the crack. Is that a possible cause for a lack of charging? Got a spare Shindengen regulator but will have to check the stator to see if it looks like it is OK electrically speaking. Just checked and there is 58v AC between the legs so that looks good to me anyway. Nelson is starting to look like a long shot.- 24 replies
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Info on replacing the stator?
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
No she didn't, I thought of it all by myself. However, she will give you a lot of points for helping us to get to Nelson. There you go, proving I am right.- 24 replies
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Info on replacing the stator?
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Just thought I would mention something that could be important. Those three machine screws that hold the stator in place are probably made out of recycled garbage so be really paranoid when tightening them. I just broke one turning it by hand with a screwdriver. Thought I was too old to be doing that anymore. Have I mentioned lately that I hate being a mechanic? Probably not but... "I hate being a mechanic!" There I said it and I'm not sorry. Tonight I'm going to drink Tequila, lots of Tequila. Rocket is going to come over tomorrow and save me. Isn't he a sweetheart?- 24 replies
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It's not about the spirt of air necessary to get a reading, but rather about losing perhaps a pound or two almost every time the gauge is put on the valve stem. What I would like is a zero loss tire gauge only. I have a 12v Slime top up pump that has a short hose that screws onto the valve stem which work great and loses a minimal amount of air when attaching or disengaging the hose. The "normal" tire gauges have to be almost exactly aligned to get a pressure reading without losing air between the stem and the gauge. There always seems to be something in the way of the gauge that makes it difficult to attach it perfectly. Never having seen a zero loss tire gauge I am thinking either a digital or analogue gauge with a hose similar to the Slime pump would be awesome. Someone must have thought the same thing too and decided to make one but apparently not very many though since I can't find one. I'm sure I have seen a zero loss gauge mentioned in this forum somewhere so thought I would ask here since the thread is all about getting a tire pressure reading.
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I have been looking for a loss-less type of air gauge but so far have not been successful. Anyone know where to get one?
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I've been looking around for a while and finally chose the Sena SMH10. Haven't tried them yet since they have yet to arrive but will hopefully be picking them up in 4 or 5 days. From the reviews I have read on WebBikeWorld they appear to have the best sounding speakers and are the easiest headsets to use. Cardo Scala has come out with a new version, the G9, which is reported to have better speakers than the G4 version but I have not found any reviews on them yet.
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Info on replacing the stator?
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Was just about to go out and do it so I'm glad I checked in here before doing the cleaning with brake fluid. Guess I will have to stop off at the auto supply again tomorrow and get some brake cleaner. Good thing I have 4 more days before I have to leave, the way things are going it just might take that long. Found when I went out to work on it that I was wrong about the gasket sticking to the engine side as it was completely on the cover side. Was thinking while spraying the gasket cleaner on the cover that it would have been real messy if it had been on the engine side. The gasket cleaner removes paint so it is very important that any paint is properly protected before spraying. Another up side to the fortunate circumstance of having the gasket on the cover is that the gasket cleaner also removes clear coat. Sprayed the cover inside and out and got rid of the remnants of clear coat so it looks a whole lot better than it did before. This is a good point since while scraping the old gasket off bits and pieces were falling everywhere. Some of them must have fallen into the bolt holes.- 24 replies
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Info on replacing the stator?
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Picked up some Permatex Gasket remover and a plastic scraper after work today. Hopefully that will remove the old gasket which is attached to the engine side. The under surface of the gasket might be stuck on with gasket sealer but the top surface definitely never had anything on it. Whatever is holding it, it sure did not want to come off. Think I'll try the hand torque method too, after making sure everything is clean, Clean, CLEAN. Which is better, brake fluid or solvent? My new stator did not come with a new wire grommet so the old one will also get cleaned with brake fluid or solvent. Got some Permatex Ultra Black RTV (PX #82180) which is a high-temp maximum oil resistance silicon gasket maker that Earl sent with the stator. Can no one remember which way the special washer faces? I'll have a look at it and see if I can figure it out tonight when I'm cleaning the gasket and other things but as always it would be helpful to find out for sure from someone who has done it. If anyone else has other useful info that has not been mentioned yet, please chime in. When I'm done I will compile what I have and submit it to Freebird as an amendment to the one document I found in the Tech Library on stator replacement. Seems it is harder to put together than to take apart.- 24 replies
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I read the VR tech article but it seems to have a lot missing, particularly when reinstalling. If my memory serves me correctly, although probably incompletely, there are quite a few hints or tips scattered around the thousands of threads on this forum thatt I don't recall the details and can't seem to find. There is something about: - using Locktite but was it the red stuff or the blue stuff? - what about torque on the 3 inside bolts and the 2 outside ones? - using a spray gasket remover instead of a scraper? - properly aligning the shift shaft or it won't work after getting it all together - the washer that fell out when I pulled the stator cover off? It has a lip on the inside edge and a couple of bends that would work like a compression spring. Which way should it go in? - before sealing, is it better to just pull the new wires through the case grommet in place or remove the grommet from the case first? There may be more but that is all I can think of now. Only 5 days before I want to leave for Nelson Kruzen the Kootenays. No pressure.
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They also seem to be popular with some people who don't want to buy their own. I had one that came with my XV1100. Worked great, was actually called a Throttle Rocker but looked the same as the pic. For a few years I rarely used it except when on a trip. Decided there is no point having it if I don't use it and 4 days later I no longer had to worry about it because I didn't have one anymore. Seems we are in the same boat... so to speak.
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Shift indicator switch
camos replied to Trader's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Mine was already disassembled before I ordered the parts so I knew I didn't need the screw but did get the pin a, spring and o-ring. Checked the prices on PartShark and there was only a few cents difference between them and my local dealer. Worked out to be much cheaper from the dealer because there was no cross border shipping. Don't forget to also get the gasket for the middle gear cover. Also, have some RTV on hand to cover the wires coming out of the switch as per Gary's writeup. May not be necessary but can't hurt. -
Shift indicator switch
camos replied to Trader's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
When I fixed mine I only needed to get the brass contact pin. The local dealer had it. Can't remember what it cost but I'm thinking it was under $9. -
Charging System Blues
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Hi Earl, I already have a Shindegen RR from the Group Buy but if you are interested in offering the rest of the package without the RR let me know. -
Charging System Blues
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Bummer!! It's confirmed, one leg of the stator is grounded. Looks like the Rick's Motor Sports stator is the one to get. Was thinking of getting it from Dennis Kirk but they don't seem to have the high output version listed on their site just the OEM one @ $133 vs Rick's @ $140. The high output one at Rick's is $160. Anyone found a better price than Rick's for the HO one? -
Charging System Blues
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Wow, now that is what I call a detailed how to. Thanks Frank now I won't be stumbling around with guesses. -
Charging System Blues
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Mary and I are going on a day trip tomorrow but hopefully I can check it out a bit more during our trip. Take a maintenance break of sorts. It seems a bit odd to me but at an idle the dash gauge reads about 12v and at 4000+ RPMs it is reading almost 13v. With something not working properly I would have thought at an idle the gauge would have been closer to the yellow range. Anyway, I had tentatively decided to go ahead with the new RR no matter what. Thanks for confirming that is the sensible choice. -
Charging System Blues
camos replied to camos's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Have only checked the resistance of the stator. Totally forgot to check the AC output when I was out there. -
The charging system on my VR is not putting out like it used to do. At an idle the volt gauge would read about 13.8 v but now even at 5000 RPM it reads only 12.7 v. Pulled the stator and RR connectors apart, cleaned and greased them with no apparent change. Ohmed the three white wires and got .5 across any or all of them so that seems to be good. Have not checked them for AC yet though. Downloaded the Electrosport diagnostic chart through a link found on this forum but that does not seem to relate to my Venture. Refers to 4 wire colours but mine has only 2 colours - 2 black and 2 red. The RR looks like the stock one although it is still installed so can't see much of it. As I type this, it just occurred to me that the red and black pairs are coming from the RR but perhaps it is the wires on the other side of the plug that should be 4 colours. Never even thought to look. Can anyone who knows what I'm talking about clarify this for me? It's dark out and I have to go to work tomorrow so don't feel like going back out to check. I have a Shindegen RR to replace the stock one and am keeping my fingers crossed that the problem is there and not in the stator.
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Wiring questions
camos replied to Trader's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
Good idea. Use the wire to one of the original horns to power the relay using terminals 85 and 86. The fused power to 87 can come from the fuse block or from a separate fuse. There is no operational problem sharing fuses between several apps as long as the draw does not exceed fuse's capacity but doing so will make it a bit more difficult to troubleshoot a blown fuse. Seems to me the best way is to use the stock horn wires to power two relays, one on each side. One relay going to the air horn and the other relay going to the stock horns which can be swapped out for Steibels any time you want. Or one relay can power the air horn and one stock horn and the other relay can power a Steibel and a stock horn. -
hot starting problem
camos replied to flyingyaks's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
That's what mine did too. Replacing the switch fixed the problem. When I did the job I laid the bike over onto the crash guards, had to prop the front up a bit so it would sit level. Did not have to drain the oil. Followed the directions Dingy gave, thanks Dingy. -
hot starting problem
camos replied to flyingyaks's topic in Venture and Venture Royale Tech Talk ('83 - '93)
I got one from my local Yamaha dealer for less than the cost from PartShark after factoring in the shipping costs. Don't forget to get a new cover gasket. I think Yammer Dan's suggestion is more likely though. Probably a good idea to check all your electrical connections before spending your money.