Oil & filter for 2004 yamaha royal star venture

[Shot]

I have not been on the site for awhile, need help. What oil filter are you using and what oil do you use? I was using a 80/20 blend, Walmart has just about changed or dropped everything here in Zebulon, NC

[bongobobny]

Whoo Boy! Can of worms!! I'll start it out, Bosch 3323 and Rotella T 15W45...

 

Let the oil wars begin!

[slowrollwv]

Here is another one for the Bosch filter but I use Mobil T4 oil. Yep! big can of worms if you let it.

[steamer]

Purolator pl14612, rotella 15/40.

[Du-Rron]

I have not been on the site for awhile, need help. What oil filter are you using and what oil do you use? I was using a 80/20 blend, Walmart has just about changed or dropped everything here in Zebulon, NC

 

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?96009-Oil-Filter-Comparisons-Hey-I-m-no-Engineer

 

http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?101114-Purolator-PL14459-Oil-Filter

 

& Rotella t6 5w-40

[bongobobny]

Here's a short list of filters...

 

Fram 7317

Penzoil PZ-109

Motorcraft FL821

Purolator PL14612, PL14610 Some Purolators no longer fit due to redesign.

Mobil1 M1-108, M1-110

Bosch 3300, 3323

Walmart ST7317 (may not be made any more)

AC PF1237, PF2057

Hastings LF113, LF 240

STP S-02876, S-02867

Valvoline V050

WIX 51365, 51356

 

Oil, well there are do's and Don'ts!!

 

Do NOT use any oil with friction inhibitors unless you like clutches that slip! That includes a LOT of automotive oils! Do not use any additives such as STP, etc for same reason!

 

Do use Motorcycle specific wet clutch motor oils! Yes, most, if not all Diesel oils are OK to use!

 

Synthetic or synthetic blends are OK and good to use, BUT not the best thing to use on motors with less than 20K on them as engine parts actually need a little friction to properly break in to their mated surfaces. On higher mileage engines, if dinosaur oil was used regularly there is a possibility the engine might be sludged up, and the synthetic will clean out the sludge (good) but that could lead to oil leaks if the sludge was plugging up a leak! (bad)

 

Yamaha recommends a 20W50 oil. 15W45 is close enough unless you are in a very hot climate! 10W40 is kind of iffy, I won't use it but others do....

[snyper316]

I have not been on the site for awhile, need help. What oil filter are you using and what oil do you use? I was using a 80/20 blend, Walmart has just about changed or dropped everything here in Zebulon, NC

 

Your Walmart too wow i was loving getting oil for 5 bux a quart now I am paying closer to 10

[Drreb]

It's a secret sorry....

[vzuden]

I have always used the Purolator filters until last week. I think I finally used all of the local stores' old stock of their old design. I bought the Bosch and Mobil 1-110 and the Bosch was too long so Mobil is what I am switching to.

i found that the Purolator that would thread on would bottom out and not fully tighten enough to compress the seal enough to not drip. The last one didn't drip until after about 1,000 miles.

[Shot]

Fellows, I have tried the PL 14612 & 14610 and the threading does not work on my bike. Im leaving for the store now to buy a Bosh 3323 and hope it works. I have oil on my garage floor from leaks, trying to get a filter that works. If the Bosh does not work Im putting it on the trailer to carry it to the Yamaha dealer to find out if it stripped out (I doubt it), I have changed my own oil since I bought it many years ago.

[Freebird]

I changed my oil yesterday. It was too expensive at $16.99 I think but I ended up just going with a K&N. Worked fine.

[bongobobny]

Yes, they changed the style of the Purolator a while back, so now it does not come in contact with the mating surface. There was a thread about this a few months back. The Bosch should fit fine, been using them for years, just changed my oil a couple months ago...

[Shot]

Fellows, I have tried the PL 14612 & 14610 and the threading does not work on my bike. Im leaving for the store now to buy a Bosh 3323 and hope it works. I have oil on my garage floor from leaks, trying to get a filter that works. If the Bosh does not work Im putting it on the trailer to carry it to the Yamaha dealer to find out if it stripped out (I doubt it), I have changed my own oil since I bought it many years ago.

 

 

Yep, I bought the Fram and Bosh, I topped the engine off with oil and everything is fine. That's the good thing about this site Freebird, if you have a problem, someone, somewhere will give you advice or suggestions and yes, "let the buyer beware" but I have had nothing but great feedback over the years. Maybe someday I can get to your meeting in Ohio and meet some of the fine people that ride and contribute to this site.

 

God bless.

[aharbi]

Whoo Boy! Can of worms!! I'll start it out, Bosch 3323 and Rotella T 15W45...

 

Let the oil wars begin!

 

Ditto!

[steamer]

Time to open this can of worms! I've been following this post all week and thinking its time to change the oil in the trike. So since its raining buckets today and the wife is out getting her nails done, this would be a good time to do the oil change. So here it is.... I pulled the old oil filter off the bike (99 rsv) and what do I see but a purolator L14612 with convex'ed threads not concave'ed. So this kind of throws a monkey wrench in the theory that the new L14612 purolator filter will not seal and will leak oil. I had no problems with this filter for the last 3000 miles. Oh, I did replace it with the larger pl14459. fits fine and no leaks. It does take a little more oil to fill it, and its a little tight to get the filter wrench on it, but the strap wrench works fine. Can't wait to see where this goes.

[bongobobny]

You may have gotten an "old stock" filter and not a newer one, which wouldn't surprise me with you living out in the Boonies...

[steamer]

Du-Ron did say the convex filter did not fit, but that is what was on my bike.

[steamer]

Ok, I went back and read it again and he shows pictures of 610's not 612, and I had a 612 on the bike, so that means the 612, old or new will work.

[steamer]

Bye the way, the Walmart here is selling supertech again.

[bongobobny]

Wonder if they are the same quality of the old Supertech, or do they have some Chinese company cranking out cah cah...

[djh3]

Yes the Purolator filter were redesigned. Now they dont work. I switched to WIX now that I have an O'reilly close by. Here is the thread on the filter problem.

[BigLenny]

I have a question. And I'm serious. What the heck is the deal with all of the different oils and oil filters everybody on here uses??? I mean, Yamaha recommends Yamaha oil and filter, so I just go to my Yammy dealer and get the oil and filters. It has never occurred to me that Yamaha could be wrong with their recommendation for oil and filters. I know they're making money off of branding their own oil and filters and selling them, but, to me, it's a lot safer staying with what they sell, than hoping and praying some brand I buy at a big box store will fit right and work.

 

I'm not trying to be ornery here, but I see folks making recommendations saying try this one, try that one, this one should fit, but maybe not, etc, etc. I say TRY WHAT YAMMY SAYS TO PUT IN IT!. LOL. In my mind its' too critical of a thing for me to get wrong. If i'm gonna try something, it's gonna be new mirrors, or lights, or something like that. But not engine oil.

 

I'll go back into my hole now.

 

Big Lenny

[Freebird]

I have no problem with their filter I don't guess except that I am not driving to a dealer to get a filter that is certainly no better than most and not as good as some others. As for Yamalube, I can only speak from my own experience. I HATE it. I could care less what they recommend when I know that my bike runs quieter and shifts smoother with other oils. My preference is Mobil 4T Racing full synthetic. There is absolutely no doubt that my bike runs quieter and shifts much smoother and does so until I reach oil change time. The Yamalube broke down in as little as 1500 - 2000 miles when riding in hot weather. Very evident by the say it shifted and difficulty in finding neutral Just my opinion.

[BigLenny]

I'm sure a lot of my opinion comes from the fact that I pass by my Yamaha dealer on my way home most days. It's a stones throw away. I figure if I lived a fer piece from a dealer I'd prolly have a different feeling. I don't reckon I've ever really thought about another oil making my bike run quieter. Its' pretty dang quiet as it is. I tried synthetics one time, but my clutch started slipping, so I changed back quickly.

 

Hmmmm.

[bongobobny]

Ya might as well ask which is better, Ford or Chevy?? And what about Mopar??

 

OK bottom line, all filters do just that, filter out little microscopic bits of foreign debris! Some filters use better materials than others, others may have some kind of safety feature like 1 way valves, etc. but the bottom line is you want a device to filter out your supply of oil!

 

The same argument can be made for oil, it is a lubricant designed to keep your moving parts moving with little to no friction! Unfortunately not all oils are created equal, and our motorcycles require a motor oil that does NOT have anti friction additives strictly because of our "wet" clutches. Also there is a specific "recommendation" for the weight of the oil depending on the environmental temperature. The hotter the climate, the thinner the oil becomes so to compensate, the higher the temperature, the heavier weight that is required for oil regardless of motorcycle, car, truck, boat, etc! There are pro's and con's for synthetic vs natural oil as well...

 

You hit the nail right on the head Lenny when you stated that Yamaha wants to sell (overpriced) YAMAHA parts!! They sure as heck do NOT wanting you to spend your money on someone else's product regardless if it works just as good if not better than their product!! Interesting study would be to ask anyone (Pucster comes to mind) that has put over 200,000 miles on their bike what kind of oil and filter they use!!!

 

Myself I choose to use a good quality filter (there is nothing special about motorcycle filters, they are the same as a car one) for half the price or less of a Yamaha one! Same argument with oil, Yamaha oil is just too darn expensive and does not work any better or last any longer than a non Yamaha oil. Myself I use diesel oil, usually Shell Rotella T.

 

The bottom line is, it's not the brand of oil or filter, it's REGULARLY changing your oil and filter, preferably every 2000 - 30000 miles and/or 6 months as oil ages and breaks down regardless of how many miles once it gets used...