VentureFar Posted July 11, 2016 Share #1 Posted July 11, 2016 Well at 80 mph in the fast lane down hill in traffic my windshield comes loose and I literally grab it as it is going to fly off. I pull over and look at both holes in the plastic where I used the tiny'est smidge of loctite, had broken off. oops. Time for a new baggershield but this time after only converting it one time in 3 years I will get the single 11" instead of the convertible. SO ? How do I keep the set screws from coming loose if not using loctite? Any ideas? Thanks all. VentureFar... PS - a shout out to my good friend @cowpuc so he knows I didn't get lost in the California fruit and nuts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Du-Rron Posted July 11, 2016 Share #2 Posted July 11, 2016 Star Washers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecdoo Posted July 11, 2016 Share #3 Posted July 11, 2016 A little clear silicone works for me. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarFan Posted July 11, 2016 Share #4 Posted July 11, 2016 Hmmmm,,,,Mine never gets loose and there is no locktite and no silicone. Well,,,I generally take the whole fairing apart once or twice a year to do some additions and then tighten everything up - so that might explain it. The silicone idea is good though. Locktite can be used but then you have to put the tiniest little drop in the nut threads - not on the bolt. But then again I would not risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djh3 Posted July 11, 2016 Share #5 Posted July 11, 2016 Silicone works, usually nail polish will also. Shoot you could probably use elmer's glue. You just need something that s going to "semi" gum up the threads so the bolts dont just work themselves out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 11, 2016 Author Share #6 Posted July 11, 2016 Silicone works, usually nail polish will also. Shoot you could probably use elmer's glue. You just need something that s going to "semi" gum up the threads so the bolts dont just work themselves out. Anything but loctite evidently. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpuc Posted July 11, 2016 Share #7 Posted July 11, 2016 Well at 80 mph in the fast lane down hill in traffic my windshield comes loose and I literally grab it as it is going to fly off. I pull over and look at both holes in the plastic where I used the tiny'est smidge of loctite, had broken off. oops. Time for a new baggershield but this time after only converting it one time in 3 years I will get the single 11" instead of the convertible. SO ? How do I keep the set screws from coming loose if not using loctite? Any ideas? Thanks all. VentureFar... PS - a shout out to my good friend @cowpuc so he knows I didn't get lost in the California fruit and nuts.... And your brother Pucster responds from amidst the fruits, nuts and other lop eared varmints wondering around the great State of Michigan - nice to hear from you my friend!! Keep working on those knee's Neil - Lord willing and the creek dont rise, we gotta go chase the moon lite of Death Valley with Tech Sargent @CMCOFFEY next year!!:900[1]: Anything but loctite evidently. :-( WOWZY VF - sounds like you had quite an ordeal - GLAD YOUR OK NEIL!! Also Glad to hear you were able to snag that shield on its departure flight - yet another adventure point (albeit, not so much fun) in the life a motorcyclist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share #8 Posted July 12, 2016 And your brother Pucster responds from amidst the fruits, nuts and other lop eared varmints wondering around the great State of Michigan - nice to hear from you my friend!! Keep working on those knee's Neil - Lord willing and the creek dont rise, we gotta go chase the moon lite of Death Valley with Tech Sargent @CMCOFFEY next year!!:900[1]: WOWZY VF - sounds like you had quite an ordeal - GLAD YOUR OK NEIL!! Also Glad to hear you were able to snag that shield on its departure flight - yet another adventure point (albeit, not so much fun) in the life a motorcyclist... Roger that! - wait I think I hijacked my own thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted July 12, 2016 Share #9 Posted July 12, 2016 There is a plastic safe version of loctite, It is specifically made for plastic parts. Loctite #425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardracing Posted July 12, 2016 Share #10 Posted July 12, 2016 In 7 years, 53,000 miles and three different versions of windshields I have never had one screw come loose even riding Michigan's crappy rods. I do not use Loctite. No need for it. You must not have had them tight enough or you ride on rough roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share #11 Posted July 12, 2016 There is a plastic safe version of loctite, It is specifically made for plastic parts. Loctite #425 Jeff if you had a million dollar bugatti veyron and had to secure a plastic part on it would you use Loctite 425 or elmers white glue? VentureFar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 12, 2016 Author Share #12 Posted July 12, 2016 In 7 years, 53,000 miles and three different versions of windshields I have never had one screw come loose even riding Michigan's crappy rods. I do not use Loctite. No need for it. You must not have had them tight enough or you ride on rough roads. I might have been a little tentative the first time I secured the baggershield after replacing the stock shield but not the second time. - but the second time both screw holes in the shield broke off and due to the loctite the screws were nice and snug.... uggh. VentureFar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted July 12, 2016 Share #13 Posted July 12, 2016 Jeff if you had a million dollar bugatti veyron and had to secure a plastic part on it would you use Loctite 425 or elmers white glue? VentureFar... Neither, A car like that would come with the proper fastener torqued to the proper spec and run smooth enough that I would not need to add aftermarket thread locker to anything. Where I work, We do use the #425 Loctite for a plastic part on one of our machines, it does not damage the plastic and it does keep things together. The standard #242 blue loctite did eat the plastic parts. I have never used thread locker on my windshield bolts, and have never had one come loose. Wisconsin has the second worst roads in the USA behind only Connecticut, so I do get a good share of shake rattle and roll, bounce and jiggle. Average Wisconsin pothole............. The road smooths out when the hole gets enough cars in the bottom of it............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karaboo Posted July 12, 2016 Share #14 Posted July 12, 2016 There is a product called Vibra-Tite VC-6 that is not an anaerobic and is non-hardening. It is compatible with ABS and just about any plastic, since you put it on the screw and let it dry before assembly. Good stuff. Do a web search or try this link; https://www.vibra-tite.com/product-category/threadlockers/removable-reusable-threadlockers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share #15 Posted July 13, 2016 I just ordered the non adjustable 11" and they were nice to give me a "repeat customer who did a dumb thing" discount. Great folks, great shield. I think I am going to go with a star washer to keep the set screws in place. Watch for my repost next year about this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeWa Posted July 13, 2016 Share #16 Posted July 13, 2016 A little plumbers tape might work for you. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 13, 2016 Author Share #17 Posted July 13, 2016 Hi Mike - seems like the threads are too fine to fit teflon tape in. I think I will go with the star washer. At least I am now very comfortable taking the chrome plastic collar off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardracing Posted July 15, 2016 Share #18 Posted July 15, 2016 If it an adjustable windshield, it maybe getting vibration from the wind and causing it to loosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Posted July 15, 2016 Share #19 Posted July 15, 2016 SO ? How do I keep the set screws from coming loose if not using loctite? Any ideas? Thanks all. VentureFar... PS - a shout out to my good friend @cowpuc so he knows I didn't get lost in the California fruit and nuts.... I don't know how second gen shields are connected, but on the 87' I replaced a couple stock windshield bolts with longer screws and used 'Nyloc' nuts. Checked yearly and no loose screws yet. (can't speak for myself tho) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 15, 2016 Share #20 Posted July 15, 2016 SO ? How do I keep the set screws from coming loose if not using loctite? Any ideas? Thanks all. VentureFar... Occasionally I'll use some of my daughters clear nail polish on the threads to keep them from coming loose.... Not loc-tite, but it seems to work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamsie Posted July 16, 2016 Share #21 Posted July 16, 2016 Nord lock washers. takes 30% more torque to undo the fastener than to tighten it up http://www.nord-lock.com/nord-lock/wedge-locking/washers/introduction/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share #22 Posted July 16, 2016 Where would one purchase the quantity of two nordlock washers ? Venturefar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jamsie Posted July 16, 2016 Share #23 Posted July 16, 2016 Where would one purchase the quantity of two nordlock washers ? Venturefar... any fastener company that supplies local engineering companies with nuts and bolts etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VentureFar Posted July 16, 2016 Author Share #24 Posted July 16, 2016 any fastener company that supplies local engineering companies with nuts and bolts etc OK thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krewl Posted July 17, 2016 Share #25 Posted July 17, 2016 Perhaps here as well https://www.fastenal.com/products/details/0162564 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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