infonaut Posted February 20, 2008 Share #1 Posted February 20, 2008 I'm curious to see what you guys think about this one. On Sunday I was headed home to Connecticut from a friend's in Philly and about 15 miles outside of town I started to feel a strange wobble in the rear end of my 87VR. As it got pretty nasty, I pulled over as quickly as I could and discovered I had a completely blown rear tire including bead separation on both sides. Once I got the bike towed home and up onto the center stand, I discovered that I had 3-4 patches on the tread like the one in the attached photo - including 1 about 6 inches long and worn completely through thus causing the flat. (Incidentally, I'm convinced my Ride-On saved my life again by giving me enough time to get to the side of the road). The tire had less than 15K on it (at least I'm pretty sure of that) over about a year and a half of use. Any idea what caused this? The dealer mounting the new tire asked if I'd been doing burnouts but I explained that I couldn't spin the rear tire on that bike if I tried. He figures it was tread separation caused by a bad tire but I'm not sure that makes sense - especially on an Avon Venon. Any ideas? Sorry the photo sucks. I'll upload better ones when I get the old tire back tomorrow with the newly mounted one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Bates Posted February 20, 2008 Share #2 Posted February 20, 2008 I change the rear tire between 10,000 and 11,000 I could get a little more mileage out of it but I don't press it. Better to be on the safe side. I found that the Avon tire is a soft grippe tire. Therefor it wears a little faster and that's ok with me. 15,000 miles to me is really pushing it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redneck Posted February 20, 2008 Share #3 Posted February 20, 2008 You wore it out. That tire did not fail you just ran it way to long. You are a very lucky man if you had been checking it regularly you would have seen it was worn out long before this happened. Go buy a lottery ticket this is your lucky day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debelt Posted February 20, 2008 Share #4 Posted February 20, 2008 I'd have to agree with Mr. Bates and the Redneck. I start watching them closely around 10k miles, and change them before they reach 12k miles no matter how much life they appear to have left. It just ain't worth it my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardbog Posted February 20, 2008 Share #5 Posted February 20, 2008 Only 15,000 Mil's ??? You Are take last mile out of tire. Glad you are OK and manage to get on side of road to tell us a story. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrichard Posted February 20, 2008 Share #6 Posted February 20, 2008 That's very interesting??? ------------IT appears that U have never put the VR on center-stand! to check tire for ANYTHING????!!!!!!!!!!---------u got your nickles worth outta that TYRE--------------consider your-self lucky and quit *****ing----------P.S. there is a lesson to-b learned here????????----------ya got-it yet----------RIDE-ON works------------65 in NewBraunfels this-day:thumbsup2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted February 20, 2008 Share #7 Posted February 20, 2008 WOW, the most I ever got out of a rear Avon was a little less than 8000 miles! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tx2sturgis Posted February 20, 2008 Share #8 Posted February 20, 2008 This HAS to be bait. The guy knew he wore it out...hes just bragging about long tire life (or lots of miles?) in a tongue-in-cheek way. Shame on you infonaut. But...still good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted February 20, 2008 Share #9 Posted February 20, 2008 I've pretty much got to agree with the others. 15,000 out of a rear tire on a motorcycle is darn good. I have never pushed one that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted February 20, 2008 Share #10 Posted February 20, 2008 I got a Avon to show thread with less than 7k. Depends on how you ride. I'm still waiting for the one I can get 10k out of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fixit3546 Posted February 20, 2008 Share #11 Posted February 20, 2008 Yep, Wore it out. I need me some of that ride on as i tend to push the miles a little myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomfromhull Posted February 20, 2008 Share #12 Posted February 20, 2008 Did you leave the parking brake on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86er Posted February 20, 2008 Share #13 Posted February 20, 2008 I have to agree on the tire wear. I've had an Avon on my Intruder that looked good every time I looked at it walking up behind the bike. Then suddnly it was in the cords like your's! I think the Venom is deceptive because the way the tread is cut, it looks good because you can't always see the groove that goes all the way across the tire , your mind tells you it's still good. The only safe way to check that tire is inspect it all the way around and check the tire wear indicators. .............................................................................................. The dealer mounting the new tire asked if I'd been doing burnouts but I explained that I couldn't spin the rear tire on that bike if I tried. ............................................................................................ As for not being able to spin the back tire on a 1st Gen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted February 20, 2008 Share #14 Posted February 20, 2008 As for not being able to spin the back tire on a 1st Gen..... :confused24: Wouldn't know anything about that!!!:think::stirthepot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted February 20, 2008 Share #15 Posted February 20, 2008 Thanks for that info, and please post some better photo's if you can. If possible could you cut out a Cross Section, I would like to see how much caseing is left after tread worn off. I'm in the process of ordering a new set of tires, I think I might go back to the Dunlop Elite III for rear, and Elite II if I can get one. Couple dealers had info that the Elite II might be available In March. Can anybody, confirm that on the Elite II Front tire. ?? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flb_78 Posted February 20, 2008 Share #16 Posted February 20, 2008 That there tire is worned out, plain and simple, not "blown out"... Well, I guess since you've worn through the tread and casing, it did literally "blow-out" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bigin Posted February 20, 2008 Share #17 Posted February 20, 2008 I would be interested to know the accurate mileage of that tire if you know. Putting Avons on my VR now. Treadless Dunlop 404's coming off have less than 5k on them and very squirrely even in the dry. Not sure how you avoided all the disasters from wet pavement, lack of braking and cornering grip long before that carcass gave out. A tire in that bad of shape gives a lot of warnings before it actually blows. I agree with the others who calling this a hoax as it is difficult to believe one could not realize the condition of the tire, or if did, would be surprised at this outcome. Are you kidding with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild hair 39 Posted February 20, 2008 Share #18 Posted February 20, 2008 i have a 150/90/15 avon 0n my voyager,it turn over 18500 mls today,still not down to the wair bars,the voyager takes the same tire as the rstd ,voyager 695lbs dry,1 gen 795 dry,don't know about rstd wait,thank the wait has a lot to do with the milage,i ride single all the time thats my story and i'm sticking to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill p Posted February 20, 2008 Share #19 Posted February 20, 2008 Info, you wont get best rider of the year here. This better be a hoax on your part. Those flat spots are from sliding your rear tire. I wrote two paragraphs scolding you. But erased them. ou are one lucky dude. By the way the elite 3 will get you 15000 with proper care on a VR. Bill P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted February 20, 2008 Share #20 Posted February 20, 2008 Any idea what caused this? The dealer mounting the new tire asked if I'd been doing burnouts but I explained that I couldn't spin the rear tire on that bike if I tried. He figures it was tread separation caused by a bad tire but I'm not sure that makes sense - especially on an Avon Venon. Any ideas? Sorry the photo sucks. I'll upload better ones when I get the old tire back tomorrow with the newly mounted one. Geeze, that's terrible. I've never heard of a Venom failing so soon. I think you need to take this to AVON, and see about getting the rest of your pro-rated warantee.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sailor Posted February 20, 2008 Share #21 Posted February 20, 2008 The Avons give better handling and performance, the trade off is lower mileage. Personally I prefer the handling and performance, it is safer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
autopilot Posted February 20, 2008 Share #22 Posted February 20, 2008 Got a low mileage pair of Avon Venom-Xs in the classifieds if anyones interested! autopilot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyRich Posted February 20, 2008 Share #23 Posted February 20, 2008 Just plain rode the tread off that one ya did... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadKill Posted February 20, 2008 Share #24 Posted February 20, 2008 i have a 150/90/15 avon 0n my voyager,it turn over 18500 mls today,still not down to the wair bars,the voyager takes the same tire as the rstd ,voyager 695lbs dry,1 gen 795 dry,don't know about rstd wait,thank the wait has a lot to do with the milage,i ride single all the time thats my story and i'm sticking to it I had 14500 miles on my rear Avon Venom when I changed it and it still was not to the wear bars. Front is still going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Terror Posted February 20, 2008 Share #25 Posted February 20, 2008 Thats a Massive failure allright----Massive faliure to maintain your bike!! How could you not notice that the tires were that far gone. You must have had no tread on there for a while to wear through to that extent. Bee careful man- Its your life we are talking about. BTW seperation at the bead also indicates under inflation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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