bongobobny Posted March 31, 2019 Share #301 Posted March 31, 2019 Here ya go! I drilled the holes with the plastic bushings installed so that the grease would get right onto them! If you look at the stock piece, it almost looks like they thought about putting grease fittings there but then changed their minds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share #302 Posted April 2, 2019 Here ya go! I drilled the holes with the plastic bushings installed so that the grease would get right onto them! https://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115906 https://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115907 If you look at the stock piece, it almost looks like they thought about putting grease fittings there but then changed their minds... https://www.venturerider.org/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=115908 Nice work. Like the fancy gold paint too!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 2, 2019 Author Share #303 Posted April 2, 2019 Flipped bike. Here are pics of cracks in frame. Guys, this frame is toast!! Evidence of welding. This thing is cracked badly all over the place. I'm thinking have the other frame reinforced big time. This one is all out of whack!! thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted April 2, 2019 Share #304 Posted April 2, 2019 (edited) To me, there is no doubt that this frame has been welded on before. It is a shame that when they did this that the gusset rods were not put in as I did in mine. This is where the real strength is as it is where the triangulation stops any flexing. As far as your "new" frame, as I suggested before, have some rods welded in and I would still contact the guy you got it from and have him pay for what it costs you to have it done. Tell him that if does not agree with that then you will contact ebay and send the whole thing back to him. There is no reason that this should cost you anymore than you have already paid out and you will end up with a good strong frame. And, on a positive note, you can now feel okay that all is not lost in getting the other frame. In fact, if it had been me and I had received a pristine 83 frame, I would still have added the gusset rods. You are going to be okay and this elephant will get eaten one of the days. And if you fix 2nd gear, you can then go eat a lot of Harleys. Randy Edited April 2, 2019 by Venturous Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HermanK84VR Posted April 2, 2019 Share #305 Posted April 2, 2019 Hi Made2Care Looks bad, anything Metal is fixable but with the amount of work required to fix this would be best spent reinforcing a good frame. IMHO I think you should go through the EBAY return route and get re-imbursed for the bad frame you recd and then use that refund to cover shipping of Cowpuc's early offer of a frame at least you know you are starting with a good foundation. HermanK84VR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted April 2, 2019 Share #306 Posted April 2, 2019 As you can see from your frame, a poor repair will still fail. Your new frame is possibly a poor repair based on the look of the welds. It is even harder to make a bad repair good than it is to start from scratch with a fresh never broken frame. I agree with the above that you should first contact the seller of the frame to see what he is willing to do about it. And then contact ebay, and what ever funding source that you used to pay for it. Ebay and PayPal are both very good about siding with the buyer. Credit cards are also pretty good about protecting you. BUT there are time limits where you will loose your ability to do anything. So don't think about this too long. Find another never broken frame to start from, like one of the frames that @cowpuc offered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpuc Posted April 2, 2019 Share #307 Posted April 2, 2019 Hi Made2Care Looks bad, anything Metal is fixable but with the amount of work required to fix this would be best spent reinforcing a good frame. IMHO I think you should go through the EBAY return route and get re-imbursed for the bad frame you recd and then use that refund to cover shipping of Cowpuc's early offer of a frame at least you know you are starting with a good foundation. HermanK84VR As you can see from your frame, a poor repair will still fail. Your new frame is possibly a poor repair based on the look of the welds. It is even harder to make a bad repair good than it is to start from scratch with a fresh never broken frame. I agree with the above that you should first contact the seller of the frame to see what he is willing to do about it. And then contact ebay, and what ever funding source that you used to pay for it. Ebay and PayPal are both very good about siding with the buyer. Credit cards are also pretty good about protecting you. BUT there are time limits where you will loose your ability to do anything. So don't think about this too long. Find another never broken frame to start from, like one of the frames that cowpuc offered. Like desperado's waiting for a train,, those parts bikes are just sitting there wondering which one is going to get to go back out CTFW again Maddy!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snyper316 Posted April 3, 2019 Share #308 Posted April 3, 2019 Think I need to go give Riva a nap and take a peak. Sent from my LG-M255 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 3, 2019 Author Share #309 Posted April 3, 2019 I can get my $40 back for frame but not the $100 the swindler charged for shipping. I've decided to get the ebay frame checked and reinforced. I have a friend that will do it for free. While I have the bike flipped, can I pressure wash the engine to clean it?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted April 3, 2019 Share #310 Posted April 3, 2019 Sure, why not, EXCEPT watch out for wiring connectors and electronic modules, you could kill them doing that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted April 4, 2019 Share #311 Posted April 4, 2019 Sure, why not, EXCEPT watch out for wiring connectors and electronic modules, you could kill them doing that... Especially the TCI. The TCI has drain holes in the bottom that are now facing up and you could very easily fill it with water and destroy it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted April 4, 2019 Share #312 Posted April 4, 2019 Especially the TCI. The TCI has drain holes in the bottom that are now facing up and you could very easily fill it with water and destroy it. Good point and it looks like his TCI has already been moved to the top of his airbox, which is off, since his carbs are off. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 5, 2019 Author Share #313 Posted April 5, 2019 Good point and it looks like his TCI has already been moved to the top of his airbox, which is off, since his carbs are off. Randy I will clean it carefully by hand. I'm hoping to flip back over and continue strip down this weekend. Ebay frame at Welder's now . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted April 5, 2019 Share #314 Posted April 5, 2019 I will clean it carefully by hand. I'm hoping to flip back over and continue strip down this weekend. Ebay frame at Welder's now . Did you show him pictures of the gusset rods I put in? He will need to know where to put the rods that they will not get in the way of the exhaust. It may have been better to put the rods in after the engine is in place so you can put the collector on first. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share #315 Posted April 7, 2019 Did you show him pictures of the gusset rods I put in? He will need to know where to put the rods that they will not get in the way of the exhaust. It may have been better to put the rods in after the engine is in place so you can put the collector on first. Randy He's just fixing welds and waiting on reinforcing. Yes, has your pics. Well, I'm making progress. Engine is free. Will cover any holes needed with plastic then power wash time. What is this big black plastic box that has hoses going to engine ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvmy40 Posted April 7, 2019 Share #316 Posted April 7, 2019 That is the YICS chamber. Yamaha Induction Control System An inovative piece of Nippon engineering that looks great on paper and may even give some modicum of real wold advantage, but actually doesn't do much. A lot of us have just removed them and capped off the YICS ports on the heads. In the XJ series engines the YICS chamber was milled into the head and you needed a special tool to block it off for synchronizing the carbs. I just left mine blocked on a couple XJs and never saw any performance or efficiency difference. My Gen1 MK1 Ventue's YICS chamber was leaking badly when I got so I just removed it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 7, 2019 Author Share #317 Posted April 7, 2019 Soaked degreaser, then power washed !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted April 7, 2019 Share #318 Posted April 7, 2019 Looking good. Now here is one more thing to help you on your YICS and keep you from having problems. Randy https://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?86100-Plugging-YICS-ports Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafterd Posted April 8, 2019 Share #319 Posted April 8, 2019 Well on the original question, second gear went out on my 85 at around 60k miles. When I sold it, it had 147k on it. The guy I sold it to put on another 20k when he lost control and crashed it. I just skipped second gear when I rode it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 8, 2019 Author Share #320 Posted April 8, 2019 Looking good. Now here is one more thing to help you on your YICS and keep you from having problems. Randy https://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?86100-Plugging-YICS-ports I will definitely do this , thanx. Noticed some numbers written on front main engine bolt holes. Someone has been here before. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted April 8, 2019 Share #321 Posted April 8, 2019 Those MIGHT be the numbers for the rod and/or main bearings. Unfortunately, the guy who was up on that stuff doesn't live here anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
made2care Posted April 13, 2019 Author Share #322 Posted April 13, 2019 Good place to find new motormount bushings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted April 14, 2019 Share #323 Posted April 14, 2019 Good place to find new motormount bushings. I know where you may be able to get some solid motor mounts. Randy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
van avery Posted April 14, 2019 Share #324 Posted April 14, 2019 If your interested in a 83 parts bike for free you just have to come get it. Send me a PM. I live a little SW of Houston. I've robbed several things including some valve shims and the engine is out of the bike but most of it is still there. She was a burgundy /red bike. I'm still supporting and driving my 87. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vickersguy Posted April 15, 2019 Share #325 Posted April 15, 2019 That's a generous offer for sure. Made2care is about 8 hours drive from you. He would be wise to take you up on your offer but it might be a bit before he could come get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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