remmertb Posted June 12, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 12, 2011 I have an '01 Venture. The whine/ chirp would drown out the loud pipes, and the stereo, and was almost painful to listen too. It would start at about 2800 rpm, and go away around 3500 rpm. I bought a clutch basket for a 1st gen (1983-1993?) Venture for $45 off Ebay and installed. The noise is almost completely gone now. It still comes in at the same rpms, but much, much quieter, and barely noticable now. A 1st gen Vmax (1985-2007) clutch basket will also fix the problem and are available for cheap on ebay all the time. If you have an air compressor and an impact wrench with a 30mm socket, the basket is easily swapped out in an hour or less and the special clutch holder tool isn't necessary. Download a service manual for a venture (any year) or a Vmax, and you'll have all the info you need to make sure you get it put back together correctly. Don't forget to buy a new gasket, as the original will rip apart when you pull the cover off. If you have any questions shoot me an email at remmerts@live.com. BTW, if you would like your bike to scream like friggin banshee, I now have a clutch basket for sale that will be music to your ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted June 12, 2011 Share #2 Posted June 12, 2011 I will have to say, I don't recall 1st genners complaining about the whine. At least from the clutch. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kregerdoodle Posted June 12, 2011 Share #3 Posted June 12, 2011 Thanks for the info, I have a `01 that is as bad as yours was, I will certainly look into doing that swap, the OEM "I" basket is just to pricy but this sounds like a good alt. to the problem.. K I have an '01 Venture. The whine/ chirp would drown out the loud pipes, and the stereo, and was almost painful to listen too. It would start at about 2800 rpm, and go away around 3500 rpm. I bought a clutch basket for a 1st gen (1983-1993?) Venture for $45 off Ebay and installed. The noise is almost completely gone now. It still comes in at the same rpms, but much, much quieter, and barely noticable now. A 1st gen Vmax (1985-2007) clutch basket will also fix the problem and are available for cheap on ebay all the time. If you have an air compressor and an impact wrench with a 30mm socket, the basket is easily swapped out in an hour or less and the special clutch holder tool isn't necessary. Download a service manual for a venture (any year) or a Vmax, and you'll have all the info you need to make sure you get it put back together correctly. Don't forget to buy a new gasket, as the original will rip apart when you pull the cover off. If you have any questions shoot me an email at remmerts@live.com. BTW, if you would like your bike to scream like friggin banshee, I now have a clutch basket for sale that will be music to your ears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted June 12, 2011 Share #4 Posted June 12, 2011 Thanks for the input. I've wondered if the clutch baskets were interchangeable, and would cure the whine. I often opined if you could even use the 83-85 basket, and then end up with a 6 spring pressure plate and skip the Barnet conversion.??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted June 12, 2011 Share #5 Posted June 12, 2011 But just bolting on 1st gen parts still will not make a 2nd gen faster......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeze Posted June 12, 2011 Share #6 Posted June 12, 2011 I wouldn't use an Impact Wrench on the Main Nut of the Clutch Basket nor would is stress the Tranny and middle Drive Gear with using the rear Brake to hold the Traby Shaft. A working Clutch Holder Tools is cheaper than a one single Shift Fork, and much cheaper than a Set of Gears .... I made a Clutch Holder Tool out of Vice Pliers and two Strips of 4 mm Sheet Metall. WOrks just as good and is even cheaper than buying the Tool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kbran Posted June 13, 2011 Share #7 Posted June 13, 2011 I wouldn't use an Impact Wrench on the Main Nut of the Clutch Basket nor would is stress the Tranny and middle Drive Gear with using the rear Brake to hold the Traby Shaft. A working Clutch Holder Tools is cheaper than a one single Shift Fork, and much cheaper than a Set of Gears .... I made a Clutch Holder Tool out of Vice Pliers and two Strips of 4 mm Sheet Metall. WOrks just as good and is even cheaper than buying the Tool. Need pics:thumbsup2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted June 13, 2011 Share #8 Posted June 13, 2011 I will have to say, I don't recall 1st genners complaining about the whine. At least from the clutch. Gary The only whine I hear is the 2nd Genners when they catch up. After I've stopped!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycatt Posted June 13, 2011 Share #9 Posted June 13, 2011 I wouldn't use an Impact Wrench on the Main Nut of the Clutch Basket A working Clutch Holder Tools is cheaper than a one single Shift Fork, and much cheaper than a Set of Gears .... Please explain how any forces applied to the clutch basket or its attachment nut, could have any detrimental effect on the shifting forks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeze Posted June 13, 2011 Share #10 Posted June 13, 2011 Please explain how any forces applied to the clutch basket or its attachment nut, could have any detrimental effect on the shifting forks. I really saw this coming ... :whistling: To answer your Question, no negative Effect, nada, zilch .... But these are is the cheapest Parts of the Transmission Clockwork, therefore i used the Shift Forks as Example. Here's the Holder i fabbed in 20 Minutes http://www.gkvgmbh.de/imgsq/Tools//Kupplungsnabenhalter1.jpg http://www.gkvgmbh.de/imgsq/Tools//Kupplungsnabenhalter2.jpg http://www.gkvgmbh.de/imgsq/Tools//Kupplungsnabenhalter3.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remmertb Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted June 15, 2011 But just bolting on 1st gen parts still will not make a 2nd gen faster......... No, but it will make the 1st gen you stole the parts from slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rizzo4u2 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #12 Posted June 20, 2011 i just bought this bike of a friend of mine, one thing i noticed that this bike also has the chirping sound when you ride what would cause this , to me its annoying, when your trying to hear the radio, maybe im just not used to hearing this sound when cruisin, im used to running my 79 xs 1100 f, that sounds quieter and runs quicker than this baby, ..dont get me wrong about the bike, i always wanted a touring bike but to me she is a little sluggish:backinmyday:and shifting the gears dont seem to glide nicelly either, the bike is sweetl, i just wish it would run that way, thankyou Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XV1100SE Posted June 20, 2011 Share #13 Posted June 20, 2011 i just bought this bike of a friend of mine, one thing i noticed that this bike also has the chirping sound when you ride what would cause this , to me its annoying, when your trying to hear the radio, maybe im just not used to hearing this sound when cruisin, im used to running my 79 xs 1100 f, that sounds quieter and runs quicker than this baby, ..dont get me wrong about the bike, i always wanted a touring bike but to me she is a little sluggish:backinmyday:and shifting the gears dont seem to glide nicelly either, the bike is sweetl, i just wish it would run that way, thankyou On the "chirp".... first thing to try is to lube the rear gear. Might help. If not... one other step is to change the clutch basket to an "I" basket. The gears/splines are straight cut so a misalignment or lack of lube can cause a whine or chirp. On the "sluggish".... I went from a Virago 1100 and trust me... rev the RSV high and you won't find it sluggish. The V4 needs higher rpm than a v-twin. For example... I'll hit 60mph/100kph + in third before shifting into 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cw1263 Posted June 22, 2011 Share #14 Posted June 22, 2011 has anybody else tried this? I bought 1st gen clutch basket off of e-bay a week ago, all excited when it arrived. Only to find out it was damaged in shipping. One of the crowns on the basket broken off. Worked a deal with sender got some money back, ordered another one should be here tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecdoo Posted June 22, 2011 Share #15 Posted June 22, 2011 Havent tried it yet, but very interested in hearing from folks that have:thumbsup: Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cw1263 Posted June 23, 2011 Share #16 Posted June 23, 2011 the clutch basket came in today. Put it in as soon as it arrived. Only problem its raining all day. Will try riding it today. I may also try the six spring pressure plate off of the 1st gen basket. If it fits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted June 23, 2011 Share #17 Posted June 23, 2011 the clutch basket came in today. Put it in as soon as it arrived. Only problem its raining all day. Will try riding it today. I may also try the six spring pressure plate off of the 1st gen basket. If it fits. The MKI pressure plate will not fit the MKII basket. Barnett makes a conversion plate that will.... I looked into doing this and talked it over with Rick at Buckeye about it way back when. If you use the MKI basket there's no need to go to the Barnett to get the 6 spring plate. So anyone who's thinking about doing this, and buying one off Ebay, make sure it's a MKI clutch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted June 23, 2011 Share #18 Posted June 23, 2011 The MKI pressure plate will not fit the MKII basket. Barnett makes a conversion plate that will.... I looked into doing this and talked it over with Rick at Buckeye about it way back when. If you use the MKI basket there's no need to go to the Barnett to get the 6 spring plate. So anyone who's thinking about doing this, and buying one off Ebay, make sure it's a MKI clutch. Need some clarification... Will a Mk II pressure place fit a Mk I basket? Will a Mk I basket work on a 1999 & Up RSV? Will an entire Mk I clutch assembly (all inclusive) fit on a 1999 & up RSV? Will the clutch discs from a 1999 & up RSV fit in a Mk I basket assembly? In other words, what combination of parts will, and will not work? (maybe best to state what won't work as the list would probably be smaller LOL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted June 23, 2011 Share #19 Posted June 23, 2011 Need some clarification... Will a Mk II pressure plate fit a Mk I basket? NO Will a Mk I basket work on a 1999 & Up RSV? NOT BY ITSELF Will an entire Mk I clutch assembly (all inclusive) fit on a 1999 & up RSV? IT SHOULD Will the clutch discs from a 1999 & up RSV fit in a Mk I basket assembly? THEY SHOULD In other words, what combination of parts will, and will not work? (maybe best to state what won't work as the list would probably be smaller LOL) MKI clutch assembly should replace the RSV or MKII clutch assembly. Like I stated above we discussed it, but haven't tried it. But unless there's some drastic redesign of the clutch in the RSV's... the same bike that still comes with a tape deck... it should work..... The only way to find out for sure is give it a shot.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cw1263 Posted June 23, 2011 Share #20 Posted June 23, 2011 Tried the gen 1 baskett today, about 100 miles. It seems to be quieter but still whinning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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