GaThumper Posted March 23, 2011 Share #26 Posted March 23, 2011 Here's some reading material. Links on the left side of this page provide a pretty good intruduction to MC Clubs. http://www.rcvsmc.net/index.html that I got from the US Military Vets MC, Virginia State Chapter site. http://www.usmvmcva1.org/links.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerCPO Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share #27 Posted March 23, 2011 So a 1%er is any motorcycle gang rather than a gang of its own. So does these mean that only 1 percent of the motorcycle community is affiliated with an illicit gang activity? Sorry for the questions but this is something that I have never been exposed to other than whats on TV. Basically yes....Only 1% of the motorcycle community nationwide are classified as Outlaw Clubs by Federal,State,and local LEO. For folks desiring more info on this topic I suggest you Google "Motorcycle Protocol" and read the plethoria of info that is available on the Net. There are many Do's & Don'ts regarding 1%'ers when you come into contact with them anywhere. In this case knowledge = survival. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleeye Posted March 23, 2011 Share #28 Posted March 23, 2011 Boomer, Thanks for the information. I don't wear any patches myself, but coodos to you for letting us all know. I hafta say that I'm way more than surpised how many people are unaware though. The pygmys wear patches? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerCPO Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share #29 Posted March 23, 2011 The pygmys wear patches? Heck NO....them little runts cause enuff trouble as it is. Boomer....who's waiting to be officially banned from every Dairy Queen in Loozeeanner cuz of them h*ll-raising pygmies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
straycatt Posted March 23, 2011 Share #30 Posted March 23, 2011 Basically yes....Only 1% of the motorcycle community nationwide are classified as Outlaw Clubs by Federal,State,and local LEO. Um, actually no. The term "1%" was originally coined years ago in an article put out by the AMA (American Motorcycle Association). Their suggestion was that most motorcyclists were good law abiding people and that only 1% of riders caused problems. The term was then adopted by the clubs as a badge of honor, so to speak, and has since come to common use for any outlaw MC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerCPO Posted March 23, 2011 Author Share #31 Posted March 23, 2011 Um, actually no. The term "1%" was originally coined years ago in an article put out by the AMA (American Motorcycle Association). Their suggestion was that most motorcyclists were good law abiding people and that only 1% of riders caused problems. The term was then adopted by the clubs as a badge of honor, so to speak, and has since come to common use for any outlaw MC. I don't have the actual stats on hand but Fed and State LEO's who I know have pretty much confirmed the 1% number compared to regular MC riders. It does not make much of a difference really....the important thing is that we in the riding community are AWARE of their existence and act accordingly to avoid confrontations with them....thus the purpose of my posting this topic. Note: A good Statistician can make the numbers read whatever he/she desires....a look at our Federal budget proves that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilBeaver Posted March 23, 2011 Share #32 Posted March 23, 2011 Good info here boomer, thanks for posting. I have only encountered (while on/with the bike anyways) some of these groups two or three times. For each, I just minded my own business and had no problems. I don't play dress up anymore. I wear gear that actually works. Yaarrr matey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pic Posted March 23, 2011 Share #33 Posted March 23, 2011 There is a big difference between a Motorcycle Club and a Riding Group. I belong to several Riding Groups. MCs have strict rules and regulations. RGs are pretty much open to anybody that like to ride. I always refer to these as Riding Groups so as to not give the wrong impression. I consider VenturRiders a Riding Group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted March 23, 2011 Share #34 Posted March 23, 2011 There is a big difference between a Motorcycle Club and a Riding Group. I belong to several Riding Groups. MCs have strict rules and regulations. RGs are pretty much open to anybody that like to ride. I always refer to these as Riding Groups so as to not give the wrong impression. I consider VenturRiders a Riding Group. "Eating club....with a riding disorder.":thumbsup2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mariner Fan Posted March 23, 2011 Share #35 Posted March 23, 2011 So a STAR Logo with the chapter and state 'Rockers' falls into this BS?? STAR makes a point to have the city/state rocker attach to the Star emblem. I figure that if a 1% asks me to take my vest off then I'll do it. It would probably be a pledge who is trying to make a name for himself. They should know that the Star group isn't any threat unless we are all in line at Dairy Queen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted March 23, 2011 Share #36 Posted March 23, 2011 I KNOW NOTHING!!!! But a small word of advice. Call them what you want Outlaw clubs do not think the same way most of us do. AND YOU WILL LOOSE!! I don't care how bad you are!! And I ain't getting into a squabble over this even if goose wants to disagree!! Without the Rockers "Most" are not going to say anything but call you a wanna be. DONE!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chabicheka Posted March 23, 2011 Share #37 Posted March 23, 2011 hmmmm....lets see...if i am hiking in the wilds and stop for a little snack and pull out a banana from the back pack and a gorilla shows up and says " me want that BANANA!" am i going to argue with him? HELL NO! I will even peel it for him and ask him if he wants to wash it down with some orange juice that i have in the pack. have a wife and a dog waiting at home that i want to be with for a while longer.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyRich Posted March 23, 2011 Share #38 Posted March 23, 2011 If I can't use my rocker what am I suppose to do now ? http://photos.imageevent.com/motorbiker/newspics4/JIP-Wooden-Rocking-Chair-1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dynodon Posted March 23, 2011 Share #39 Posted March 23, 2011 Boomer is right, don't argue, remove the vest. Sometimes I hear they say "OK, you showed respect, you can put it back on" But wait for them to say that! You probably won't ever run into this situation unless you are at a 1% event or 1% bar etc. If you are in a public place, even if there are 1%ers, usually they won't say anything. STAR has worked with the MC to have the patch with lower rocker up against the patch approved in almost all instances, but still, some clubs don't know this or some individuals don't know this, so remove first, ask questions later! Star was going to have an East Coast convention last year, but someone with a STAR vest ticked off one person (or a few, doesn't matter) in that state and the convention was moved to TN. Later they got it worked out, the offending person wasn't even a current STAR member. I wear my STAR vest to STAR functions, and have it put away otherwise. Just don't see the need to wear all that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNrider Posted March 23, 2011 Share #40 Posted March 23, 2011 As an officer with a local chapter of a riding club here in middle TN I can vouch for the rocker problem. Just in my small town we have 2 MCs fighting a turf war. I have friends in both clubs. I choose not to participate in the MC lifestyle and it is a lifestyle, not just being a member. It is truly not worth your life if you are asked to remove your vest for any reason by them. Just show the respect and do it. Another riding club was shut down by them for just having the city name in their round back patch. But it didnt happen without some gun shots and a lot of crap going on. On the same note, if you ever were to run in to some 1%ers, NEVER touch their vest for any reason. That is also a sign of disrespect for the club. I could go on but enough for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
painterman67 Posted March 23, 2011 Share #41 Posted March 23, 2011 OK it's serious, but it's still BS. I don't worry, 'cause I'm not a patch guy. I kinda like a 'Neckid' vest. To each his own.... I'll check with my son-in-law. He's a leo and deals with gangs in the SoCal area. I'm wondering, since in this club we do a lot of long distance touring and are 11,000 strong, how many of us have actually been asked to remove their rockered vests by a 1%'er while riding?? Hey condor, MIne does not have a rocker set. I was asked to remove and I did. Out of respect fro a previous thread where freebird asked no 1% club names I will not say who it was. I removed my vest imediately . It just wasnt worth it.One of me and my wife and at least 30 of them. When the respect was given I was then asked to belly up to the bar and they bought drinks for me and my wife. and we partied with them. I was asked to pledge their group also as I went to school with one of the prominent members to which I respectfully turned down. Now whenever I am around I am allowed to if i want where my vest as long as I dont put rokers on it. I have no intention to do so. Not nbecause of then just dont have the desire to do so. So yes at least one of us has been asked to remove a vest David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scarylarry Posted March 23, 2011 Share #42 Posted March 23, 2011 Take note on what he is saying: As an officer with a local chapter of a riding club here in middle TN I can vouch for the rocker problem. Just in my small town we have 2 MCs fighting a turf war. I have friends in both clubs. I choose not to participate in the MC lifestyle and it is a lifestyle, not just being a member. It is truly not worth your life if you are asked to remove your vest for any reason by them. Just show the respect and do it. Another riding club was shut down by them for just having the city name in their round back patch. But it didnt happen without some gun shots and a lot of crap going on. On the same note, if you ever were to run in to some 1%ers, NEVER touch their vest for any reason. That is also a sign of disrespect for the club. I could go on but enough for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Haywood Posted March 23, 2011 Share #43 Posted March 23, 2011 looks like i need to go buy a leather vest and a "rocker"... I have a nice little surprise under my shirt, though, and I know how to be a violent person, too... Really and you don't believe they all have a couple of surprises also? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rentalguy1 Posted March 24, 2011 Share #44 Posted March 24, 2011 I don't wear a vest, but I know that respect is earned. A complete stranger telling me to do something earns no respect from me. Plus I have problems with taking directions. No, I don't think I'm bad. I have a paralyzed leg thanks to Uncle Sam. I know I'm not. I do know I'm armed and have a lot of spare ammo on me at all times though. What? You think I wouldn't do it? Try me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rentalguy1 Posted March 24, 2011 Share #45 Posted March 24, 2011 Really and you don't believe they all have a couple of surprises also? Life has to have some value attached to it to really give a crap. The way I see it, you're only here as long as you're here. I care about as much about my life as I do about theirs. I don't play kiddie club games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickardracing Posted March 24, 2011 Share #46 Posted March 24, 2011 I just bought a vest about a month ago. I ......was.....planning on putting a large Star logo patch on the back with a rectangular Venture patch on the bottom. Maybe I will just leave the large one off and just put the small Venture patch at the bottom. Would this be a problem ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerCPO Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share #47 Posted March 24, 2011 I just bought a vest about a month ago. I ......was.....planning on putting a large Star logo patch on the back with a rectangular Venture patch on the bottom. Maybe I will just leave the large one off and just put the small Venture patch at the bottom. Would this be a problem ?? You can put both of them on your vest. The BIG issue with the 1%'ers is when you put a territorial rocker under the large patches....and the large patch indicates a "MC"...aka Motorcycle Club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eusa1 Posted March 24, 2011 Share #48 Posted March 24, 2011 where is the flush lever to remove all the things:sick: wrong with this post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomerCPO Posted March 24, 2011 Author Share #49 Posted March 24, 2011 where is the flush lever to remove all the things:sick: wrong with this post? Believe what you will. In this Country it is known as freedom of choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eusa1 Posted March 24, 2011 Share #50 Posted March 24, 2011 . I'm posting this in the best interest of ALL members of this Site. I will NOT debate this issue on this Forum. To each his own regarding your individual actions. Regards and respect to all......Boomer you lost something after this part of the post:whistling::080402gudl_prv:mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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