Condor Posted December 22, 2011 Share #1 Posted December 22, 2011 Need some help guys. I've been looking for a small welder to do some light welding and picked up one at an auction this past weekend. It's a small Home-n-Shop Craftsman stick welder that has the goofyest lead set up I've ever seen. Wondering if any of our resident welders might have a clue on what it is and how they're used.... Pics attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owen Posted December 22, 2011 Share #2 Posted December 22, 2011 Sheet metal tack welder??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted December 22, 2011 Share #3 Posted December 22, 2011 That is exactly what I was thinking. Some type of tack welder. Sure doesn't look like a stick welder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted December 22, 2011 Share #4 Posted December 22, 2011 Some of the real small welders do just use battery clips for both the ground and stick holder. If it is an AC welder then it does not matter which one is ground and which one holds the stick. I do remember seeing stuff like that when I was shopping for a welder. Can you post a pic of the data plate that shows the power requirements? That will give us a better idea of what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted December 22, 2011 Author Share #5 Posted December 22, 2011 That is exactly what I was thinking. Some type of tack welder. Sure doesn't look like a stick welder. Yeah I kinda thought of that right after I posted the thread.... Still wouldn't want to have the tips touch while turned on. I think I'll invest in some new leads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesBike Posted December 23, 2011 Share #6 Posted December 23, 2011 Could that be a holder for a carbon arc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted December 23, 2011 Share #7 Posted December 23, 2011 Yeah I kinda thought of that right after I posted the thread.... Still wouldn't want to have the tips touch while turned on. I think I'll invest in some new leads... Those are the leads that are shown in the sears parts manual for this welder. Go to sears web site and search for the part number on the tag. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted December 23, 2011 Share #8 Posted December 23, 2011 I did a search on the part number visible in your pictures. It seems that those welders were recalled. Here is a newspaper article that came up. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19791011&id=jSgxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4617,3122425 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted December 23, 2011 Share #9 Posted December 23, 2011 I did a search on the part number visible in your pictures. It seems that those welders were recalled. Here is a newspaper article that came up. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19791011&id=jSgxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4617,3122425 Maybe you can still get the recall and trade it in on a new one.. Or get a full refund of the lowest ever sale price. Its worth a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playboy Posted December 23, 2011 Share #10 Posted December 23, 2011 I did a search on the part number visible in your pictures. It seems that those welders were recalled. Here is a newspaper article that came up. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19791011&id=jSgxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4617,3122425 Anyone notice the prices on the washers and dryers compared to today's. Microwaves have come down and television for comparable sizes not as big of change. not trying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddlebum Posted December 23, 2011 Share #11 Posted December 23, 2011 (edited) That is a holder for carbon rods. You put one in each clamp. touch the tips together and then draw them apart to create an electric arch flame. It usefull for heating and bending metal, soldering or brazing. Also great for flameless heating of seized nuts. You simply grab the nut as though you were trying to pick it up with two chop sticks, wait and before long the nut is red hot and ready to loosen off. I have used it for many things and it can be quite handy when there is no torch around. Brazing sheet metal with it is not quite as pretty as using a oxy acetelyne torch but in a pinch it works not bad. this link is like the one I have. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYnsCXVsJsw]Demonstration of The Carbon Arc Torch - YouTube[/ame] Edited December 23, 2011 by saddlebum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagleeye Posted December 23, 2011 Share #12 Posted December 23, 2011 Saddlebum, Now that is very cool. Learn something new everyday. I wonder if something like that is available today? I've got a lincoln arc welder like that, and it seems that you just plug the leads into it, right? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share #13 Posted December 23, 2011 Thanks for that video. It explains a lot.... and my need to get rid of the rig, and replace it with SOP stick clamps. I'll stick to LPG to heat up metal. What I need out of the welder is just something to do some spot tacking, and very little of that. Thanks guys, I apprreciate all the help and suggestions.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted December 23, 2011 Author Share #14 Posted December 23, 2011 I did a search on the part number visible in your pictures. It seems that those welders were recalled. Here is a newspaper article that came up. http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1356&dat=19791011&id=jSgxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=tAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=4617,3122425 Thanks Don. Missed this post the first time around. Looks like this one escaped the recall. I wonder how long that recall is in effect??? This could get interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDunc Posted December 23, 2011 Share #15 Posted December 23, 2011 ... Also great for flameless heating of seized nuts. You simply grab the nut as though you were trying to pick it up with two chop sticks, wait and before long the nut is red hot and ready to loosen off. ... ummm NO! :big-grin-emoticon: :sign funny post:Sorry all... just could not resist as I sit here eating some peanut brittle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddlebum Posted December 24, 2011 Share #16 Posted December 24, 2011 Saddlebum, Now that is very cool. Learn something new everyday. I wonder if something like that is available today? I've got a lincoln arc welder like that, and it seems that you just plug the leads into it, right? Steve I bought mine about 15 years ago but I think you can still get them. http://fs.bookpawnshop.com/L/ad-Lincoln-electric-l-2645-carbon-arc-torch-for-ac-welding/ You can also make your own. I remember seeing instructions in popular mechanics when I was a teen. However here a couple such articles I found on the web http://books.google.ca/books?id=VCcDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA194&dq=twin%20carbon%20arc%20flame&pg=PA194#v=onepage&q&f=false http://www.instructables.com/id/Make-a-carbon-arc-torch-for-your-220-volt-stick-we/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Eagle Posted December 25, 2011 Share #17 Posted December 25, 2011 Hey, Condor, with the new smartphone of yours, you can now google something for information prior to buying it at the auction - - just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted December 25, 2011 Author Share #18 Posted December 25, 2011 Hey, Condor, with the new smartphone of yours, you can now google something for information prior to buying it at the auction - - just sayin' Gee Thanks for that... I'm finding smart phones ain't so smart if they have an un-smart operator..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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