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I don't understand the iPhone problems. Can't try it on an iPad until I get home tomorrow. I have no trouble with my iPhone though. You have to access it from the forum. Go to the forum or home page and click the VR Chat link. When I do that on my iPhone, it logs me right in.

I moved the VR Chat button to the left so it should now be accessible on the phones. Of course that moves the VRGallery and Donation buttons to the right and now they are accessible so it just depends on what is more important to everybody. There is a mobile phone plugin that I have installed for the chat but I'm not sure is working correctly. Still looking into that. It also appears that sounds do not work on the phones.

Yes actually I did.

OK folks, for those of you who missed the chat room, the new one is installed and ready to use. I will probably do some tweaking on it here and there but it is fully functional. It seems to be a whole lot faster loading and working than the old one was. It should also work on your mobile phones, pads, etc. There is a link in the upper menu bar, near the right end, that is labeled VR Chat. When you click on that you should be automatically logged in so long as you are logged in here as well. I don't think we need two different chat rooms so I have removed the "ShoutBox" that was at the beginning of the forum. Actually I have only disabled it for now. If anybody really liked it, I will enable it again but otherwise I will completely remove it in the near future. Let me know how the new one works and/or if you see anything missing that you can't live without. I don't know how much I can do about it but am willing to try.

LOL...I just use big words to make me sound more important than I really am. Yes, there will be a new chat room. In fact, there is already a new chat room. I still have some tweaking and etc. to do on it but it should be functional at this time. There is a link towards the right end of the menu bar at the top of the page that says "VR Chat". So....you folks can start playing with it and see how it works.

Oops...guess I need to try that again.

So far...so good. I'm almost 100% sure that things may be going fairly well until they don't and then......

If the site goes down temporarily or you see something strange happen. Do not panic. I will be panicking enough for all of us. I am presently having to rebuild the PHP and Apache software in order to add some new drives that are required for a new chat room. If things go REALLY badly...I hope to see you all at Maintenance Day.

Well...I went ahead and bought the software. Will try to get it installed. Ran into an issue with the server already that I hope I can rectify. Some needed drivers are not present on the server. I knew that installation was going to be a pain.

The old room was remotely hosted and I paid it yearly. They went out of business and left a lot of people hanging. This one is different. I will pay for the software one time and host it on our server. So there will be no monthly or yearly costs. The software is not terribly expensive but not free. Probably about $250.00. Compared to what I have invested in other software here and etc., it's not a bad price. It shouldn't be much trouble to maintain. The installation and any customization is where the time always comes in. Once installed and the way we want it, I hope there will be very little other maintenance to keep it going. I've tried it on a demo and it is about the closest thing I've found to our old chat room that most seemed to like. Not exactly but close. As for Android and Iphone use, it should work. I tested it on my Iphone and it seemed to work OK. The only issue may be getting the mobile application to access our database so that people don't have to sign up and login separately to use it. The site version will do that but I'm not 100% sure about the mobile version. Trying to find out. Either way, it's about the only thing I have found so regardless of the mobile question, it is probably what I'll do with if enough want the chat room back.

Well when the old one went down, a lot of people said that they missed it. The solution that is not installed doesn't seem to be very well accepted. Not sure why because it actually does the same thing the old one did but just without the nice layout. That's OK though...if folks don't like it then I need to come up with something else. Just surprised that now there seems to be little interest. Of course, it was late last night when I posted this so maybe those people who miss the old chat room just haven't seen it yet.

Well, 48 views and no responses. Maybe you folks don't want a chat room after all.

OK folks....some of you have missed the chat room and aren't real happy with the Shout solution that we now have. It's not that I don't care but I've just had a very difficult finding a good replacement for the old one. I may have finally found one that I think is pretty good. Before I spend the money on it though, I want to know that it's something that you will really use.

LOL..you know what...I'm not even sure how much it is here. Just under 2.00 I think. I seldom even look, just fill it up and go. Nothing I can do about it anyway.

Me too.

LOL....I think they missed the 2016 deadline. Here's hoping for a 2017.

Under 50 cents per gallon at some stations due to a price war. Did any of our Michigan riders get in on this? http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/18/gas-prices-fall-below-1-in-michigan.html?intcmp=hplnws

I don't know the answer to your question but wonder if it's really in issue. I mean, yes, on the first gen bikes with the 2 brush starters there is an issue but I haven't heard of any issues with the RSV or the 4 brush starters added to the first gens.

All that may be true for some but not all. Many Harley riders have no problem with the heat, I guess less sensitive to it, and the performance. There are a lot of bone stock Harley's on the road. Some RSV riders also spend a considerable amount of money to improve performance. In my case, that included K&N Filters, various mufflers, Dyna 3000 Ignition module, VMax rear end, etc. It wasn't all chrome and etc. Also, a LOT of RSV owners have changed the handlebars. I updated mine with Flanders bars for the same reason that I have changed the bars on the Road Glide. I probably spent almost as much on improving the performance of the RSV as I have on the Harley. Probably a bit more on the Harley due to the cost of the DynoVision Powertuner but I could have gone with a less expensive tuner had I chose to.

I was thinking further about this heat thing and felt that I needed to add a note or two. I said that the stage one kit did not come anywhere near 50%. I have to say that I honestly don't know HOW much it helped. In regards to the temp gauge, very little. As for perceived heat or actual measured temperature? On a hot day stuck in traffic, it is still very hot. That being said though, I don't know how much improvement there is. It is HOT. If I were sitting in traffic though and there was 250 degrees or 230 degrees, I don't know that I would be able to tell the difference. I guess the only way to know for sure would have been to use a heat gun to get measurements before and after under the same circumstances. I talked to a couple of Harley mechanics that are actually very good at their jobs and was told that the Stage One kit and removing the catalytic convertor could lower the temperature as much as 17 degrees. I think that is probably about right but like I said, it is mostly perception. A lot of what you feel is exhaust heat and the oil temperature gauge is not reading exhaust heat. On a side note. I asked these mechanics and even a couple of good sales people about the new engines with partial water cooling. They have all told me that if going with the water cooled engine is because of the heat, to NOT waste my money. As most of you know, it is not a typical water jacket engine. The cylinders are still air cooled. The water cooling is only for the exhaust port area. They tell me that it was done more to enable Harley to get just a bit more performance out of the engines without melting them down. It does very little, if anything at all, to reduce the felt heat from the engine.

You are correct about the '13 models not coming with the LED lights. I also do not know who makes the ones for HD. I don't agree with the stage 1 kit solving 50% of the heat issue. I have the stage one and though it may have helped a little, I would say no where near 50%. Even when I later went a step further and replaced the header pipe with a non cat version, the overall improvement is not close to 50% in my opinion. The Road Glide Ultra comes with the lowers (I see that is what you said) and they are vented. Have never ridden one without them so don't know how much the vents or not having the lowers helps. Fuel Moto is a fantastic company to deal with. If you make any changes, you just send them an email and you get a new program for the tuner. They have an extensive list of programs for most any air filter, exhaust setup that you can imagine. I've done it twice and had an updated program within hours of emailing them. I also agree that the 2 into 1 is best for power but I personally just like the dual setup and I'm satisfied with the power. HD Forums is also a pretty good place to find information. I visit there from time to time but am not really active there or at the road glide forum. I've seen those cheap fixes on both sites and they are pretty popular. Well, actually this is the first I've heard of the shift linkage upgrade. Honestly didn't know I needed one but will check it out. I've never had any issues with the shifter though.

I, and I think most others here, use the HH pads.

One other thing. I have a very good 2013 service manual in .pdf format. It is indexed with clickable links and searchable by key word. Let me know if you need it and I'll upload it and send you a link. It is the official 2013 Harley Davidson Touring Models manual.

Brian, There are a LOT of Harley forums out there but the best one I've found that is specifically for the Road Glide is http://www.roadglide.org/forumindex.php I don't post much there but it is a good place for information and the people actually seem pretty nice.

@cowpuc the 2013 did not come with the LED headlights. Maybe the CVO did but not the standard Road Glide Ultra. I have thought about adding them but just haven't done it yet. The Harley Davidson ones are about $750.00 I think. I haven't looked to see if there are aftermarket versions cheaper. I may very well do it at some point though. I decided that the lighting wasn't bad and so it wasn't a priority for me. Comfort was my first priority. Rider's backrest, highway pegs, a wrap around passenger backrest, truck slider, drink holders, GPS mount, etc. Then I had to add the Bushtec trailer hitch and trailer wiring isolator. Saddle bag guard rails are always high on my list. I tell my wife that they are essential for protecting the high dollar bags but the truth is, I just like the way they look. Stage one kit ends up costing some fair bucks also. I shop around and found a great deal on a set of like new Vance and Hines mufflers and got a huge discount on the stage one air filter because Fuel Moto has a great deal if you buy it with the DynoVision Tuner. That tuner was about $700.00 though If I remember correctly. Then there were Ace High Leather grip covers, chrome windshield/fairing trim, luggage rack, saddlebag lid covers, Harley Split Vision mirrors, and I know that I'm forgetting things. Of course I then had to have the Bushtec repainted to match the new bike..... We all know that buying a new bike is just the beginning. I had pretty much run out of things to do to the RSV that Yammer bought so I had to find something else to work on. Like I said, I've thought about selling it but very likely won't. I just can't wrap my mind around letting it go. I can tell you though that Friesman got a great deal. I wouldn't let mine go for that price. Forgot the handlebars. Swapped out the stock bar for the heritage classic bars. A little more pullback. They are highly recommended by other Road Glide riders but still not enough pullback for me. Will probably swap them for something else in the future. Let's see, I also forgot about he passenger grab bars and the pushbutton fuel door release that keeps you from having to get your key out of your pocket every time you stop for gas. Added an auxiliary outlet in the right faring pocket for charging phone and etc. I'm sure there are other things that I'll think of too.