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IMHO, all my 1st Gens (and 99.99999% of the carbed scoots I have had the honor of getting my greasy, untrained, back yard mechanic fingers on) have never ran correctly until warmed up to operating tempt so I will make these statements with total disregard of how your scoot is running pre that status How does it idle when the temp gauge gets full up to operating temp Gearhead? No choke, air cleaner inside a good, properly sealed airbox,,, shoot the headers with an infra red (or use some spit on the tip of your finger if your an old school fool like me) to make sure she's idling on 4.. Is it? Now when you touch the throttle does the hesitation happen instantly as soon as you move it or does it bog as the R's are climbing? By the way,, you been running Seafoam? How old are your plugs and when was the last time you took a peek at your plug caps (where they screw onto the wires and also ohmed em out?

I gotta ask ya here Corporal ,,, are you by any chance running a car tire on your scoot?

Tip and I were recently rippin across the Nebraska Sandhills in our little Trooper hybrid and I had just finished telling her how cool it would be to drag Maggie (my R1) out there to "play" on the hills in 5th and 6th gear (speeds over 160 would DEFINITELY turn those awesome uprighted by the hand of God himself "sweepers" in some really beautiful potential high speed ramps) when we ran across what the video shows... Just another scourge of Nebraska roads to add to your list of things to beware of out there brother!!

BAMMO!!!!! Same rule applies (IMHO of course),, streetbikes - dirtbikes and as you mention,, DEFINITELY sportbikes IMHO.. Same same = Drive into loose gravel on full on touring bike - throttle it out - chop the throttle and down ya go.. Got a log in your way when rounding on an MX bike on a tight single trail during an Enduro - lift the front tire (throttle it out) or suffer the consequences as you face plant on the other side of the log.. Death wobble in a corner at speed on a liter bike, trail brake and add throttle or PRAY you dont high side when your tossed from her back. Rabbit,,, I can tell we are not dealing with no funny bunny here By the way,, learning that "when in doubt throttle it out" is one of those precious little reasons why I have suggested for years that newbie riders grab an under powered little XR100 and buss around in a field and in sand,, learn to ride the back wheel even,, wayyy before they hit the highway.... Getting to trust that twist of the right grip just as much (maybe even more) is hard to describe but definitely worth the learning IMHO... GOOD POINT RABBIT!!

I PROMISE,, if you open your eyes and start speaking during an autopsy you are undergoing,,,,,, the Doc's WILL listen RADAR!! :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf:

PERFECT,, glad the resize worked for us Hardy and WOWZY WOW WOW WOW,, SHE IS BEAUTIFUL!! Especially for a 1st time project build.. YOU are doing AWESOME there my friend!! Want a couple quick suggestions? Ok,, I will take your silence as a surely I do Puc:missingtooth: Thick wall water pipe does work good for getting angles and stuff as a prototype (I like using PVC as its easier to work with) but I have found the added weight does not fair to well with encouraging a long lasting seal at the heads and stuff.. Personally I would pull em and,, if nothing else,, grab some thin wall Conduit and mess around with it with a kicker (bender) and/or mandrel or piece of pipe and see if I could eliminate all the heavy stuff... What am saying ,,, let you figure it all out,, THAT is a HUGE part of the fun of building,,, my bad:happy34:!! YOU definitely got a future in accepting and enjoying the challenge of the build Hardy.. I compliment you and am THANKFUL for your willingness to share both in story and pics!! By the way,, concerning your garage, this is a bike forum/club,, not a garage/man cave competition club (at least the last time I checked)... I admire you for posting the pics of the real deal action taking place with no regard for covering up a busy minded gearhead mess!! No need for any form of apologizing about that IMHO !! VERY IMPRESSIVE BUILD YA GOT HAPPENING THERE MY FRIEND!! Build it like ya see it in your minds eye = THAT is what its all about :guitarist 2::banana::guitarist 2:

and NEVER dont EVER have an autopsy done either!! I gotta daughter who is a Pathologist and can tell you,, what happens during the dismantling of a body donated to science is NOTHING compared to what goes on behind the closed doors of Dr. doing an autopsy with all those freshly sharpened cutting instruments, Hammers and chizles cut loose to dismantle things

If I was 20 years younger, pre Broken Back, Dupentrens, Pace Maker, Cancer and Brain fluid leakage,,, I would buy that puppy,, sell our house and Tip and I would become highway Desparado's... That sweetheart DEFINITELY wreeks of adVentures just waiting to happen!!

Yip,, still following! I use "Paint" to resize my pics for club pics.. Just resize to 1000 pix's max and resave. Never an issue with them once thats done... Keep up the good work Hardy!! Fun project and enjoying your adVenture!! Puc

I would do this:

Personally I think that price point would be about average.. I think if I were in the market for one I would do some dickering,, maybe offer 7 grand cash (U.S.) with the offer of the 8 grand asking IF the dealership popped the lids on the carbs and stuck in new OEM slides and diaphrams so I knew I was starting off with new and some new brake pads all the way around.. That would also hinge on my personal inspection prior to them tossing $$'s at the scoot to start the process.. Actually though, I would do a TON of research in looking for a brand new left over carrying the 5 year warranty. I know for a fact that the left over RSV's have been known to bring 10ish.. It's always the same game though,, ya gotta do the research to find em. Bottom line is the market is saturated and there are lots of deals to be had for those who are still able to ride.. I even heard about a person recently who picked up a brand new left over 2018 SVTC for just over 18 grand = talk about a steal! Not sure what the process is or the xtra taxes that would have to be paid if your friend bought one State side and rode it home Retired but I know others have done it. Being able to do so may or may not be prudent $$ wise but it sure would widen the prospects of finding a new left over = TONS of great deals happening here in the States and with riding season coming to a close it's only gonna get better for the savvy buyer with cash in hand,, IMHO of course! Best wishes to your buddy on getting what he wants!! Puc

:sign yeah that: Which one of your scoots were you on Corporal Newkirk and why did you adjust the steer bearings in the first place (have issues pre-adjustment? When dealing with steer bearing issues thru the years at the shop, it was amazing how many times bikes came in with those neck bearings overtightened and to tight of bearings always seemed to produce similar results to those you describe - especially on Bat Wing (fork mounted) scoots where cross winds create more erratic fork movement that require subtle constant corrective input from the rider. If to tight (or notched/shot bearings) those subtle corrections can easily become over corrections leading to the "death wobble".. Similar results can happen, IMHO, from worn fork bushings which allow for movement that create similar subtle corrective action. I had a Honda 1100F (cool scoot) that I picked up for a couple hundred bucks cause its death wobble scared the PO so bad he was ready to junk the bike as he had deemed it unridable as even the dealerships couldn't figure out what was going on with its steering.. 105ish (bike was easily a 12 second machine,, minus the steer issues of course) and the death wobble would occur.. Ended up being the fork bushings.. By the way,, that scoot came stock with a small fork mounted bullet fairing on it and even just that little fairing was enough to cause those subtle movements I am speaking of. If you have not done so, and the scoot was not doing the death wobble pre-adjustment,, I would back the torque nut on the steer bearings off, feeling for "notchiness" as you reset. I have successfully used the zip-tie on bar end/digital fish scale method for setting steer bearings thru the years,, not sure if thats what you are doing? On frame mounted fairing scoots like sport bikes (think Maggie my R1) all the up to full touring scoots like Tweeks (or your 1st Gen) I set to 4 pounds,, fork mounted scoots I go with 2 pound break at the scale as they always seemed more sensitive to over torque. There,, my share of suggestive response to = "any have any suggestions"

Would LOVE to but our Wedding Anniversary falls right in that time zone and our kids have something cooking and I am under strict orders to not make any plans for mid to the end of September.. You lop eared VR Kanuckian riders and friends varmints have fun out there!!

Heyyyy,, I remember those flying the flag pole at MD,,,, never knew they was undies,, I always thought it was one of our VR flags, flying full mast = ice cream for all,, flying half mast = ice cream only available for precision ice creamers,, no flag = no ice cream available....

These days are difficult for sure.. Thanks for posting Mastergun's departure in a more permanent location too Boss, this is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you Mastergun for being here with good, solid wisdom advice during a difficult time! There is so much involved with keeping our club healthy, friendly and alive and doing so is often a "behind the scenes", thankless job that takes sincere and clear thinking,, that was you my brother = THANK YOU! May you rest in peace after serving your country and brothers in country so well!! Prayer Up and the most sincere of condolences to your family and friends as they/we work through this time of grief.. RIP my friend!

Tip and I really wanted to make it too but life got in the way. Thank you for posting this up in a more permanent location Boss, Bongo was truly one of kind and his love for our club and his fellow man will never be forgotten. Rest in peace Bongo as you enjoy the presence of the Lord you loved and served brother. Prayers Up and condolences for Becky, family and friends as they/we work thru the grieving process.

Shoulda checked the local McDonalds,, it's a known fact that that's where directionally challenged motorcyclist hang out when they are driftin in areas they are unfamiliar with

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Sadly Tip and I are/were unable to make it either Raggy.. Please include us in that vest pocket too Jim. We are there in spirit and wish to extend those same condolences to Becky and all of Bob's family!! RIP my dear brother!

WOWZY WOW WOW WOW,,, I'd be mighty careful with those kind of challenges when messing with Flyinfool my sweet brother.. I know of folks as far away as Southern Cal, Arizona, Washington (the State of), Florida, the entire eastern seaboard and all of Canada including British Columbia who ended up on the "bitter" end of Fool excepting challenges like that.. I will NEVER forget the time he got such a challenge from another southern gent down near Atlanta Georgia who :stickpoke:Fool in a similar way and to my recollect,, Fool and his Wisconsin White Washer stopped all traffic, shut down schools, closed airports and even almost canceled Christmas for millions of cute little southern kids with just a mere 5 inches of his special mix Wisconsin White Wash,,,, and all that was with hand filed nozzles.... Sadly,, due to your old buddy quoting you here,, the ability for you to delete your tempting post that I am sure will have Fool salivating thru his lips of blue has long since departed so your defensive options are narrowing down.. Being a very dear and close friend of yours and continually looking out for your best interests,,, you might want to consider selling a couple of your shooters and special ordering a snow shovel, snow blower (make sure you get at least an 8 horse/double stage blower), a snowmobile (so you can get groceries), a truck with a snowplow on it so you can plow your neighbors out and keep them happy (you don't seriously think their feelings toward you are gonna stay on the + side once they find out who is responsible for the WWW covering their environment do you?).. I know,, right about now your probably thinking - I wonder if Fool would accept a simple begging for mercy... Thing about Fool brother Sly is the Ice in his veins and his sheer joy of producing powder.. Also his pitt-bull attitude about being challenged.. Matter of fact,, I highly suppose he is out pulling the nozzles on the WWW as I type and is fitting up a jig to them that will set on his Surface Grinder so he can produce a special precision ground nozzle just for your location so I highly doubt you will slow em down at this point... My goodness Slyvester,,, what have you done:backinmyday:

Ahhh yes,,, another positive outcome from shooting thru precision ground nozzles..

Looking AWESOME brother!!! It makes me just thinking about the performance difference between hand filed White Washer nozzles compared to precision ground ones,,,, looks like we poor friends of Fool on the other side of the pond will find out

You made me cry Stang,,, I miss em.. The world does not have enough people in it with hearts to match the size of our friend Bongo's.. He was truly the real McCoy.. THANKS for sharing that story my brother!

Tip and I rode Tweeksis 2 miles down a very loose sand two track (the trail was freshly groomed for the upcoming snowmobile season) to get back to an abandoned blue berry patch to pick blue berries to send my fruitfly daughter who lives in California. Tweeksis's excellent throttle response keeping the front end light like a dirt bike kept us from going down numerous times.. What an amazing motorcycle these old Ventures are brothers and sisters.. Get out and ride! Puc

Not to sound redundent but reading this thru again makes me still think the probability that you have a Stator and/or Regulator issue going on. While far from a battery expert, I have found that it is not uncommon for a good battery to gain a recharge just from sitting after it has gone dead from not being recharged properly via a functional charging system. That would explain why after it dies and sits for a time, the battery recharges itself enough to restart the bike and run for a while (not so sure if this works with Lithium batterys but have experienced it numerous times with lead acid batteries in the past). As stated earlier, if you haven't done so, I would expose the battery so you can put an ohm/volt meter across the battery leads. Now start the bike and let it idle, put the ohm meter on low DC voltage (20 volts) and test across the battery leads, you should see about 12 volts. With the leads still attached on the leads, rev the bike a little and the voltage should jump to around 14.5 volts. If this test fails, you need to gain access to the Stator leads coming from the Stator to check the windings in the Stator. All doable, check at the battery first and if that test fails we can explain further testing of the Stator/Regulator system.. Bottom line, dont give up, it can be fixed,, it's just a matter of eliminating one potential issue at a time.. EDIT: Ooppsss,,, my bad,,, I missed the comment that you did do all the above and found the Stator system check to be fine,, meaning you did see at least 14.5 volts on the meter when you revved the scoot = right? That being so,, I will go back to reconsidering options..