BigLenny Posted August 20, 2012 Share #1 Posted August 20, 2012 Decided to take my front wheel of myself this time to take it to a bike shop to have a tire mounted on it. Usually I just have the shop do the whole job. So, my question is, what the heck do I have to do to get the axle out? I loosened the allen head pinch bolt, but I can't get the axle to break lose. I'm using a 22mm socket with a medium size breaker bar. Makes me wonder if I should get out the ole impact wrench. This axle is a left hand thread, right? Thanks for suggestions, Lynn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmelah Posted August 20, 2012 Share #2 Posted August 20, 2012 good question lenny inquiring mind want to know since i will be doing the same in about a month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tx2sturgis Posted August 20, 2012 Share #3 Posted August 20, 2012 Decided to take my front wheel of myself this time to take it to a bike shop to have a tire mounted on it. Usually I just have the shop do the whole job. So, my question is, what the heck do I have to do to get the axle out? I loosened the allen head pinch bolt, but I can't get the axle to break lose. I'm using a 22mm socket with a medium size breaker bar. Makes me wonder if I should get out the ole impact wrench. This axle is a left hand thread, right? Thanks for suggestions, Lynn Its been awhile since I removed mine, but Im pretty sure its a normal right hand thread. Counterclockwise rotation of the nut should remove it. I wouldnt put an impact on it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLenny Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted August 20, 2012 Yeah, I mean right hand thread. Righty tighty, lefty loosy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLenny Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share #5 Posted August 20, 2012 The sucker is tighter n a tick on a hounds back! Can't get it to break loose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tx2sturgis Posted August 20, 2012 Share #6 Posted August 20, 2012 The sucker is tighter n a tick on a hounds back! Can't get it to break loose. You can try a breaker bar, or cheater bar, but I wouldnt put an impact on it...I wonder if it was cross-threaded when it was worked on the last time? I sure hope not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLenny Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted August 20, 2012 I tried a breaker bar. I'm tempted to spray some penetrating oil on it, but I'm concerned if I do that, it might effect it staying tight when I re-install it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry.B Posted August 20, 2012 Share #8 Posted August 20, 2012 Who ever took it apart last time might have put locktight on threads the last time you might have to heat it to get it off . good luck Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainJoe Posted August 20, 2012 Share #9 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) If your careful with a Mapp Gas tourch you can heat the nut and it will break the bond of any loc tite that was applied. Let a water hose dribble around fork and inside of axel as the ONLY thing you want to expand is the Nut. I don't let anyone else work on my bike, especially a underpaid youngun with an attitude and impact wrench. Although... I don't see anything wrong with using an impact "to take something off":confused24: B4 you heat it I always use the sharp rap trick. Take a blunt flat head chisel and give it a couple of good raps on a flat area of the nut with a nice size peen hammer. This also works on screws using regular screwdrives ... Edited August 20, 2012 by CaptainJoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted August 20, 2012 Share #10 Posted August 20, 2012 (edited) My question is, what the heck do I have to do to get the axle out? I loosened the allen head pinch bolt, but I can't get the axle to break lose. Remove the pinch bolt entirely .......(and use 14 ft lbs of torque to re tighten it)...since your having problems removing your axel then go ahead and spray a little lubricant...it wont hurt it a bit.. .....then lefty loosy....To reinstall, righty tighty..... (and use58 ft lbs of torque to retighten) Edited August 20, 2012 by Eck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted August 20, 2012 Share #11 Posted August 20, 2012 Go ahead and use penetrating oil. Just clean the threads with brake cleaner prior to reassembly. I also see no problem with using an impact for removal only. If using heat to try to loosen loctite, it only takes about 360°F (180°C) to break down blue loctite, or about 550°F (260°C) to break red loctite, disassemble while hot. If red loctite was used then see if you can get your longest breaker bar to conform to the head of the person that put it in there. Do not over heat, at 650°F (343°C) you are starting to risk changing the temper and strength of the forks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLenny Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share #12 Posted August 20, 2012 Thanks everyone. I finally got it to break loose. The penetrating oil did it. If it's done one thing, it's made me more confident in feeling that that sucker would never come out while I'm riding. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marshal Posted August 20, 2012 Share #13 Posted August 20, 2012 Whatever you do, DON'T use penetrating oil on.... oh... nevermind. It ain't coming out by itself, that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibvel Posted August 20, 2012 Share #14 Posted August 20, 2012 (and use58 ft lbs of torque to retighten) Eck, My service specs say 56 ft-lbs for the Axle bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLenny Posted August 20, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted August 20, 2012 Whatever you do, DON'T use penetrating oil on.... oh... nevermind. It ain't coming out by itself, that is for sure. Hmmm. Too late. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted August 20, 2012 Share #16 Posted August 20, 2012 Eck, My service specs say 56 ft-lbs for the Axle bolt. Thanks gibvel....your be right...I be wrong.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLenny Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted August 21, 2012 Thanks for everyones help. I'll be sure and adhere to those torque specs when I re-mount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoneman1981 Posted August 21, 2012 Share #18 Posted August 21, 2012 Good Job Len: Thanks for sharing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider Posted August 21, 2012 Share #19 Posted August 21, 2012 When reinstallling, lightly coat the axle with anti-seize to make you life easier in the future. Don't get it on the threads, obviously. With the pinch bolts, you don't need to worry about the bolt backing out. RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigLenny Posted August 21, 2012 Author Share #20 Posted August 21, 2012 Uh oh. When I took the axle out, it looked like it had some Loctite on the threads. Well, when I was reinstalling it just a while ago, I was threading the axle back in. When I put the torque wrench on it to torque it 56lbs, right before it clicked, it felt like the threads went weak. I think the last person that did it, over tightened it, and then put Loctite on it to make it stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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