Yamamike Posted February 2, 2012 Share #1 Posted February 2, 2012 Almost ready to start sanding my ol girl and I'm wondering about the pinstriping. Is covered by a clear coat (OEM) or anything? I'm just wondering what will happe when I start sanding! Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted February 2, 2012 Share #2 Posted February 2, 2012 On my 1983 Standard the pinstriping on the fairing was under a very thick coat of clear coat...on the right side; on the left side not so much. The pinstriping on the fender was not under clear coat. The pinstriping on the saddlebags was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryZ Posted February 3, 2012 Share #3 Posted February 3, 2012 I had a terrible time getting the pinstriping off of the Beast. I tried a couple of things and nothing worked well . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friesman Posted February 3, 2012 Share #4 Posted February 3, 2012 I had a terrible time getting the pinstriping off of the Beast. I tried a couple of things and nothing worked well . . . Same here, the guy that did the paint/prep work said it seemed like the pinstriping's glue was etched right into the plastic. He did some major sanding and used plastex to level and then sanded some more. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted February 3, 2012 Share #5 Posted February 3, 2012 And like Gary and Brian, I had a hell of a time getting that pinstriping off. I settled on a hair dryer (hot, hot, hot) to get the tape started coming and then started slowly pulling, heating more as needed. And after I got it off it left a groove where it had been AND adhesive that was not removable with any solvent I tried. I ended up using a pink Pearl eraser to rub off the residual adhesive. The groove remained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted February 4, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted February 4, 2012 Hmmm...interesting about the groove left behind...I suppose you could use that as a guide (maybe that's whay it's meant for?) for pistriping after panithing? Thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hamm Posted February 29, 2012 Share #7 Posted February 29, 2012 not sure if you got your pin stripe off yet , but napa has a speical wheel for removing pin stripe , fits in any drill , just have to go easy so it does not heat up the plastic too much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted February 29, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted February 29, 2012 Haven't touched her yet and that sounds interesting. I'll give them a look. Thanks Hammer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share #9 Posted April 12, 2012 OK so now I realy have to get my a$$ in gear and finish preping this baby for paint. Anyone out there remove the aluminum "frames" around the inside edge of the bags and trunk? There are small screws around the inside of them but with these out it's still very solid on there and I wonder if they're glued. I'm afraid to break anything if I pull any harder than I have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted April 12, 2012 Share #10 Posted April 12, 2012 OK so now I realy have to get my a$$ in gear and finish preping this baby for paint. Anyone out there remove the aluminum "frames" around the inside edge of the bags and trunk? There are small screws around the inside of them but with these out it's still very solid on there and I wonder if they're glued. I'm afraid to break anything if I pull any harder than I have. I have heard a couple of others say they could not get the saddlebag rims off. I didn't even try to get mine off. Just taped them. I just painted mine last weekend. The pin stripes were the interesting beginning. I had a spare fender to experiment on and found what worked for me. I started by using a heat gun from Harbor Freight and heating stripes in small sections at a time. I used a very thin putty knife to scrape the softened stripes off. This took the bulk of the stripe off, but left a somewhat gummy residue that was tough to remove. What I found that worked best was a 3M General Purpose Adhesive Cleaner. I don't know if this is still avaliable as I have had this can for years. The active ingredient in it is Xylene & Naphtha. It still took some effort but the stripes did come off. I did try the decal remover wheel mentioned above, but it was to aggressive and was damaging the ABS plastic. Took 220 grit paper and sanded all around areas of pinstripes to level out the groove they left behind. Finish sanded everything with 320 paper. I used Sherwin Williams paint. 2 quarts of primer that was then sanded with 600 grit paper. 2 quarts of color. A little over a quart of clear coat. My total cost for paint & related hardeners & reducers was a little over $300. I'm not going to sand clear coat and buff. With all the sharp corners on the parts I don't want to end up cutting through paint and having to do touch ups, plus the small parts would be a real pain to secure & buff. I used an HVLP gun from Harbor freight and 2 packs of their disposable paint cups, these made cleanup much easier. You must get a charcoal respirator. It would have been intolerable without one. They are about $20. Some pictures of this process attached. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share #11 Posted April 13, 2012 Lookin good Gary!! I got the pinstripes off with one of those glass cleaning knives that uses a razor blade. Then I found what makes the quickest work of getting the glue out is a peice of Scotchbrite (light grey) and Goof Off adhesive remover. I agree about the decal remover. I also plan to tape the rim like you did...what kind of tape is that?? That sounds like alot of paint...how many coats of primer and colour did you put down? Thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted April 13, 2012 Share #12 Posted April 13, 2012 Lookin good Gary!! I got the pinstripes off with one of those glass cleaning knives that uses a razor blade. Then I found what makes the quickest work of getting the glue out is a peice of Scotchbrite (light grey) and Goof Off adhesive remover. I agree about the decal remover. I also plan to tape the rim like you did...what kind of tape is that?? That sounds like alot of paint...how many coats of primer and colour did you put down? Thanks for the info! Probably a good 3 coats of primer. The Yellow I used was a hard color to paint the Sherwin Williams guy told me. It was more expensive than a lot of colors and it was hard to get good hiding coverage. I only got a quart & half per receipt. used almost all off it. There was quart of black. A pint of flattining clear for some of the black parts. 2 different hardners, 2 quarts of reducer. A gallon of thinner. Quart of surface cleaner. 2 quarts of clear. Tape was some I got a Sherwin Williams. Not on this receipt. There was another thread somewhere that someone mentioned goof-off was not good to use for some reason. Just make sure it is cleaned off well. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted April 13, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted April 13, 2012 Thanks again Gary...don't know why Goof Off would not be considered good for this. I had no issues with it. It did not affect the paint or plastic at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted April 13, 2012 Share #14 Posted April 13, 2012 Looking good Gary. I was/am seriously considering making my 88 yellow and blacken all of the chrome. Cant wait to see it all together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted April 13, 2012 Share #15 Posted April 13, 2012 Looking good Gary. I was/am seriously considering making my 88 yellow and blacken all of the chrome. Cant wait to see it all together. I have plans for that with my 750. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted April 14, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted April 14, 2012 Uuuuhhh...by the way Gary...does your wife know what her ironing board's been used for lately:stirthepot: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted May 4, 2012 Awright... finally have the paint done (other that fixing a couple runs in the clear). Re-assembly time...woohoo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamamike Posted May 4, 2012 Author Share #18 Posted May 4, 2012 Awright... finally have the paint done (other that fixing a couple runs in the clear). Re-assembly time...woohoo!!! Photos don't do it justice but whadayall think of the colour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mm482 Posted May 4, 2012 Share #19 Posted May 4, 2012 Looking Good!!!! Earl:thumbsup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags529 Posted May 4, 2012 Share #20 Posted May 4, 2012 I'm right behind you looks good! 84 VR 120k brought back from the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted May 4, 2012 Share #21 Posted May 4, 2012 Awlsome Red?? I'm colorblind but that is red?? Get tricked once in a while. I can tell BLUE!!! While you guys are painting I need a simple book on how to paint or something to tell me how to mix and pressures for gun and such things. I did some painting for Uncle Sam but never set gun up or mixed paint. I got pretty good at spraying just need to know all the other stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted May 4, 2012 Share #22 Posted May 4, 2012 Awlsome Red?? I'm colorblind but that is red?? Get tricked once in a while. I can tell BLUE!!! While you guys are painting I need a simple book on how to paint or something to tell me how to mix and pressures for gun and such things. I did some painting for Uncle Sam but never set gun up or mixed paint. I got pretty good at spraying just need to know all the other stuff. Nice shade of green.......... There is no magic pressures to use, the pressure and mixing will vary by the type of paint AND by the equipment you have. experiment on a piece of scrap, Got any 2nd gen parts laying around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted May 4, 2012 Share #23 Posted May 4, 2012 Nice shade of green.......... There is no magic pressures to use, the pressure and mixing will vary by the type of paint AND by the equipment you have. experiment on a piece of scrap, Got any 2nd gen parts laying around? Nice shade of Green is one of the biggest tricks my colorblindness ever played on me. I was going into a parts store and this little RED MG was sitting there. Sharp Little Red car and I looked it over for a while. RED!! I came back outside after getting what I was after and it was the prettiest Green. I walked around it and looked it over and I'm sure it was the same one. Ithink. GREEN!! If my air hose will reach I could practice on the neighbors truck. He probally wouldn't notice a little change... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 4, 2012 Share #24 Posted May 4, 2012 Which brings to mind the story of the blonde who was paid to paint the porch. After a few hours she came in and said" all done...but it's not a Porch...its a Ferrari !!!!! Older than dirt....I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacheedah Posted May 5, 2012 Share #25 Posted May 5, 2012 I need pictures of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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