Bubber Posted March 19, 2014 Share #1126 Posted March 19, 2014 I know ! I know ! I know ! Call on me! It is cold, snowy. rainy and just plain miserable out side and we don't have anything better to occupy our time. Did I get it right? :banana: Did I? Did I? I am going to my corner now as if anyone really cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted March 19, 2014 Share #1127 Posted March 19, 2014 Why would Bubber say such a thing.........WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpuc Posted March 19, 2014 Share #1128 Posted March 19, 2014 Awe Bubber,, we care,, well at least I do.. And I think you got it!! I have a sneaking hunch that in a couple more months we will all be looking back and laughingly asking ourselves WHY we all participated in such nonsense... Yup,, we'll all be sitting around a camp fire sounding like a bunch of seagulls saying why, why, why,why, why... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted March 19, 2014 Share #1129 Posted March 19, 2014 Good answer!!! Always ask WHY 5 times... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mother Posted March 19, 2014 Share #1130 Posted March 19, 2014 at least some of us know about the 5 why's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIC Posted March 19, 2014 Share #1131 Posted March 19, 2014 Why do we have 1125 posts on this meaningless thread?? WHY??? WHY not ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1132 Posted March 20, 2014 Why was the WHY thread brought back to life?? WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drreb Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1133 Posted March 20, 2014 I'm hearing voices that are saying to me......WHY? But I don't know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Annie Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1134 Posted March 20, 2014 I know ! I know ! I know ! Call on me! It is cold, snowy. rainy and just plain miserable out side and we don't have anything better to occupy our time. Did I get it right? :banana: Did I? Did I? I am going to my corner now as if anyone really cares. WHY? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1135 Posted March 20, 2014 Bubber,,, you are out of line!!!! In post # 1126 there is not even to mention of WHY. Please remember that to be a proper poster you need to post properly or else the question will get lost in the shuffle, or the thread could be HI_JACKED, or maybe worse, it might go south. So far so good, a little blurp maybe, but we should be able to recover. Don't ask me why I posted this, maybe just to get Annie confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1136 Posted March 20, 2014 at least some of us know about the 5 why's I bet Toyota didn't ask WHY five times and or didn't listen to the answer. Only a 1.2 billion dollar error in judgment. And yes I do know why you ask why 5 times. Bubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drreb Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1137 Posted March 20, 2014 I bet Toyota didn't ask WHY five times and or didn't listen to the answer. Only a 1.2 billion dollar error in judgment. And yes I do know why you ask why 5 times. Bubber Well I don't know why and why would anyone ask why 5 times? Enquiring minds would like to know why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1138 Posted March 20, 2014 Well I don't know why and why would anyone ask why 5 times? Enquiring minds would like to know why? Because asking why to the answers given will get you to the root cause on the 5th answer to why. At least for the reason why the problem occurred. It is a standard methodology in any good quality system. The first four answers only lead you to the root cause. A lot of quality systems are based on the Toyota based quality system (or ISO 9000). Looks like they didn't follow their own systems. Only 1.2 Billion in fines, How many cars do you think they will have to sell to make that back? How many heads will roll because of that BS move? I'll bet not one in management at any significant level.:whistling: Now back to why for you short attention span members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIC Posted March 20, 2014 Share #1139 Posted March 20, 2014 Because asking why to the answers given will get you to the root cause on the 5th answer to why. At least for the reason why the problem occurred. It is a standard methodology in any good quality system. The first four answers only lead you to the root cause. A lot of quality systems are based on the Toyota based quality system (or ISO 9000). Looks like they didn't follow their own systems. Only 1.2 Billion in fines, How many cars do you think they will have to sell to make that back? How many heads will roll because of that BS move? I'll bet not one in management at any significant level. Interesting concept .. ever wonder WHY ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drreb Posted March 21, 2014 Share #1140 Posted March 21, 2014 Because asking why to the answers given will get you to the root cause on the 5th answer to why. At least for the reason why the problem occurred. It is a standard methodology in any good quality system. The first four answers only lead you to the root cause. A lot of quality systems are based on the Toyota based quality system (or ISO 9000). Looks like they didn't follow their own systems. Only 1.2 Billion in fines, How many cars do you think they will have to sell to make that back? How many heads will roll because of that BS move? I'll bet not one in management at any significant level.:whistling: Now back to why for you short attention span members. Well well well I speculate that reason why could be found in the words I have read in your explanation....but I'm wondering why I would subject myself to reading all these words and when I get to the end of all this could I possibly still wondering why???? :whistling::whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonslayer Posted March 21, 2014 Share #1141 Posted March 21, 2014 Why was the WHY thread brought back to life?? WHY? That's what I'm saying.... Why is this thread still running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonslayer Posted March 21, 2014 Share #1142 Posted March 21, 2014 Because asking why to the answers given will get you to the root cause on the 5th answer to why. At least for the reason why the problem occurred. It is a standard methodology in any good quality system. The first four answers only lead you to the root cause. A lot of quality systems are based on the Toyota based quality system (or ISO 9000). Looks like they didn't follow their own systems. Only 1.2 Billion in fines, How many cars do you think they will have to sell to make that back? How many heads will roll because of that BS move? I'll bet not one in management at any significant level.:whistling: Now back to why for you short attention span members. Interesting concept but, if it was actually true this thread would have ended after the 6th post...... There must be more to it. I bet that was Toyota's problem, a flaw in the methodology. Just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yama Mama Posted March 21, 2014 Share #1143 Posted March 21, 2014 Why am I writing this in such little font? I have discovered that I no longer care about the answer to this WHY question. Because it is driving me absolutely NUTS that is why I keep checking to see if anyone can answer WHY. Why do you eyes hurt from reading this? Because it is so little that is WHY. Yama Mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted March 21, 2014 Share #1144 Posted March 21, 2014 I don't think it is about the methodology but more about implementation. When money influences the response to the answer then the answer becomes skewed and the results are skewed or bogus, in the case of Toyota evidently they just plain lied to achieve the result they wanted instead of the result given when the questions would have been or were answered honestly. So 1.2 billion is a lot of WHYs. So if a company would lie about a dollar fix per car what else would they lie about and WHY! Oh the humanity of it all. So that my friends is only a partial reason WHY. Bubber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted March 21, 2014 Share #1145 Posted March 21, 2014 WHY? Because it was winter!!! Winter is over. SUN IS SHINING!!! I don't care WHY til next winter!!! Next winter when we are about to go nuts someone can ask. _ _ _ ??? I'm getting OUT!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpuc Posted March 21, 2014 Share #1146 Posted March 21, 2014 Why dont I get a get out of free card yet?? Why do I have to keep this thread going alone.. Why am I talking to myself? Why, I dont know Puc.. Why did you pick all those fair weather friends.. Yea but WHY did they leave me here all alone,,, I searched the world over and thought I found true love,,,, theyyy got some sunshine and POOF,, they were ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drreb Posted March 22, 2014 Share #1147 Posted March 22, 2014 Why dont I get a get out of free card yet?? Why do I have to keep this thread going alone.. Why am I talking to myself? Why, I dont know Puc.. Why did you pick all those fair weather friends.. Yea but WHY did they leave me here all alone,,, I searched the world over and thought I found true love,,,, theyyy got some sunshine and POOF,, they were ..... There is a problem here me thinks....why is someone talking to himself, he will remain nameless ^^^^^^^but why not call his doctor and the men in the little white coats? Why not and quickly!!!!:whistling:And why is he not taking his medication why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted March 24, 2014 Share #1148 Posted March 24, 2014 Is WHY a question?? A statement!!! Or an answer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano Posted March 24, 2014 Share #1149 Posted March 24, 2014 WHY.....is mostly a statement spoken between an expert and a dumba** on how they accomplished something..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted March 24, 2014 Share #1150 Posted March 24, 2014 The real question, WHY did Mraf start this thread in the first place??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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