Condor Posted October 7, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 7, 2009 Has anyone here ever stuck a 2ndGen 1300 motor into a 1stGen?? If so, how'd you get around the shift linkage?? Looks like the 2nd goes thru the middle gear cover instead of the stator cover like on a 1st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted October 7, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 7, 2009 Don't have a clue Jack but you got my attention!!! Why do you want to slow a 1st Gen down??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozlander Posted October 8, 2009 Share #3 Posted October 8, 2009 Why do you want to slow a 1st Gen down??? And why would you want that noisy cheeeep clutch???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted October 8, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 8, 2009 Don't have a clue Jack but you got my attention!!! Why do you want to slow a 1st Gen down??? His oil leak on the 91 came back:bang head:. He had also threatened, sending the scoot up to me, to fix it........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted October 8, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 8, 2009 I would rather put the 1st gen engine into a 2nd gen. Then it would be fast!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted October 8, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 8, 2009 One biggie is exhaust headers. The 1st gen goes on the inside of the frame and the 2nd gen goes on the outside. The heads are made different. RandyA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegscraper Posted October 8, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 8, 2009 One biggie is exhaust headers. The 1st gen goes on the inside of the frame and the 2nd gen goes on the outside. The heads are made different. RandyA Indeed, this is your real problem. The exhaust pipes won't fit at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted October 8, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 8, 2009 The exhaust could be done by a good pipe bender without much trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddlebum Posted October 8, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 8, 2009 I would rather put the 1st gen engine into a 2nd gen. Then it would be fast!! But then how to make it look as good:think::think: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted October 8, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 8, 2009 But then how to make it look as good:think::think: Paint it Black........ Vmax style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share #11 Posted October 8, 2009 The exhaust could be done by a good pipe bender without much trouble. My thoughts on the exhaust too. Heck if OCC can do it?? The shift linkage would be the biggest problem if you wanted to retain the peg configuration. With the linkage shaft coming out of the middle gear cover on the 2... at least that's the way it looks in the repair manual....maybe I'm wrong??.... instead of out of the stator on the 1... I'm guessing here, but it looks like the 2 is a direct drive to the tranny shaft and they did away with all that internal linkage??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeze Posted October 8, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 8, 2009 Jack, you could simply change the Shift Shaft between both Engines and have the 1Gen Shift Shaft an a 2Gen Motor where you'll need it. Vmax Shift Shaft also comes out through the middle Drive Gear Cover. The Heads won't interchange and that's a good Thing because you could mount Vmax Heads instead of those whimpy 2Gen Heads and have better Breathing than ever. I'm not sure if you'd like the 2Gen Tranny, i'd keep the 1Gen Trans Ratios for the Sake of proper Performance on such a Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted October 8, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted October 8, 2009 Jack, you could simply change the Shift Shaft between both Engines and have the 1Gen Shift Shaft an a 2Gen Motor where you'll need it. Vmax Shift Shaft also comes out through the middle Drive Gear Cover. The shift shaft on the 1st's comes out thru the stator cover Squeeze, and from the pics and diagrams of the 2nd it looks like it comes out thru the base of the middle gear cover. I don't think it's a direct swap of the linkage.??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeze Posted October 8, 2009 Share #14 Posted October 8, 2009 The shift shaft on the 1st's comes out thru the stator cover Squeeze, and from the pics and diagrams of the 2nd it looks like it comes out thru the base of the middle gear cover. I don't think it's a direct swap of the linkage.??? Shift Shaft doesn't mean Linkage. 1Gen have a short Shift Shaft and the Linkage connects underneath the Clutch Slave. The Shift Shaft doesn't stick out of the Middle Drive Gear Cover. But it would, if the Shaft would be longer. This external Linkage uses the Stator Cover as an Pivot Point. Vmax and 2Gen have longer Shift Shafts which stick out through the Middle Drive Gear Cover and connect the Shifter through "outside Lingages". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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