Yes, we all talk about the whine. You may have also noticed the vast majority stll love there bikes and would not trade it in for anything else. These bikes are darn near bullit proof. Like others have said, if you come across one you like, take it for a test ride. If the whine is really bad, you will hear it. If its that bad, move on till you find one that works for you. If you go with another brand, so be it. We will still welcome you to stick around.