comingbackdown Posted June 16, 2016 Share #1 Posted June 16, 2016 Well, for those wondering, it's finally out thanks to a sawzall and a 30 ton shop press. Holy crow. So here's what we've got. When I pulled the final gear loose from the swingarm, I found one of my least favorite varieties of shop filth. Ohhhhhh goody. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_010643.jpg Oh and it's all over the driveshaft. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160614_233426.jpg Luckily the splines look alright. So no damage there that I can see. Took me 20 minutes with some degreaser to get this crap off. But wait, there's more. In getting the axle out, I had to remove this shroud. One of the screws wound up destroyed by the time I got it out. I will need a replacement. The snap ring on that side also took some persuading and is now toast. Hopefully I can get one from mother Yamaha or one of my fellow Ventureriders. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_010351.jpg Here we have the axle! Anybody notice anything off? Yeah, it's not straight. I don't know if that long collar is supposed to come off or is part of the axle, but it's split and the two halves of the axle turn independently of one another. Ain't that just lovely? Looks like the inner bearing race right there too. It came off no problem. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005749.jpg Here we have what is left of BOTH bearings. Hard to see the wee needle bearings there, but they're there. Everything else is gone. I may need some help deciphering what's what and what I need to buy aside from the bearings. I have not taken apart the other side of this contraption just yet. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005722.jpg This was behind the bearing. Part of the bearing or no? http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005829.jpg This fell out of the wheel the same time as the final gear popping loose. No idea what it is or how it goes into place. I am looking at a minor hodge podge here. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_010000.jpg Here we have the wheel, after I pried the shattered remains of an outer bearing race out of it. The race left a small ring but it looks to be alright. Thank God. I did not want to have to buy a freakin' wheel. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005613.jpg So now I have to figure out what I need, and then it's time to pony up the cash. I may need help putting this mess back together. I have not disassembled the other side since it's a giant ball of grease and I don't want to ruin anything spraying degreaser all over it. But I'm sure both bearings and both seals are completely destroyed. I even had to deflate the tire to get the whole thing on the shop press. Thus ends chapter one of the most ridiculously irritating repair I have ever attempted. It should've just come out and saved both of us the trouble. To follow: Chapter 2: My wallet is crying. Why? Bike parts. Chapter 3: How does this damn thing go together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etcswjoe Posted June 16, 2016 Share #2 Posted June 16, 2016 Glad you were able to finally get it apart hope it is not too painful putting back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted June 16, 2016 Share #3 Posted June 16, 2016 Time to replace the thing... eBay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted June 16, 2016 Share #4 Posted June 16, 2016 Looks like you still have the outer race stuck in the wheel. The first picture of a 'washer' seems to be the bearing cover (seal), the second one looks like the washer that goes between the brake caliper bracket and the wheel. The shaft is bent, you're right on that one. The wheel looks serviceable but you should mic it to be sure. Don't be worried about clean up, clean what you can see so that you can see better. You won't do any damage by cleaning with brake clean. Just keep it away from paint. I would suggest to pull back the boot on the u-joint at the transmission and clean that area as well before trying to put things back together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted June 16, 2016 Share #5 Posted June 16, 2016 Yep its E-Bay time. Finding a complete one shouldn't be very costly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbig1 Posted June 16, 2016 Share #6 Posted June 16, 2016 wow looks like the shaft got a little hot. Think Dan maybe spot on. Buy assembly from ebay. Parts would add up. Might see if someone on site would fix ya up. At least you know what's going on now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videoarizona Posted June 16, 2016 Share #7 Posted June 16, 2016 Concur. EBay. Pinwall cycle. Bet you can get the whole wheel, axle and rest.... and it would be cheaper and easier than trying to figure out what's what. If the thing came apart that badly, there is no telling what else may be wrong. Not worth the effort to figure it out unless you are curious. I bought an entire rear end assembly for my 89 for $80. The wheel would have been a separate buy...but the way to go in my opinion. Pricing now, that I don't know. I've seen some parts now that are going for higher pricing than last year. But still worth looking around. Suggest you call Pinwall and ask them what they have for an entire wheel assembly with bearings, etc., ya never know what they may come up with... Good luck and keep us posted. OH, thanks for the pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Du-Rron Posted June 16, 2016 Share #8 Posted June 16, 2016 Well, for those wondering, it's finally out thanks to a sawzall and a 30 ton shop press. Holy crow. So here's what we've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted June 17, 2016 Share #9 Posted June 17, 2016 There is a axle on there for 11 bucks. Too much. And a wheel fo 29 I think it was. Both can be had cheaper but when you want them they are slow in showing!! As I told you at MD some clown just walked off with the spare I had. I'll take a look but can't think of any not attached to a bike right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrlinEngh Posted June 17, 2016 Share #10 Posted June 17, 2016 Well, for those wondering, it's finally out thanks to a sawzall and a 30 ton shop press. Holy crow. So here's what we've got. When I pulled the final gear loose from the swingarm, I found one of my least favorite varieties of shop filth. Ohhhhhh goody. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_010643.jpg Oh and it's all over the driveshaft. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160614_233426.jpg Luckily the splines look alright. So no damage there that I can see. Took me 20 minutes with some degreaser to get this crap off. But wait, there's more. In getting the axle out, I had to remove this shroud. One of the screws wound up destroyed by the time I got it out. I will need a replacement. The snap ring on that side also took some persuading and is now toast. Hopefully I can get one from mother Yamaha or one of my fellow Ventureriders. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_010351.jpg Here we have the axle! Anybody notice anything off? Yeah, it's not straight. I don't know if that long collar is supposed to come off or is part of the axle, but it's split and the two halves of the axle turn independently of one another. Ain't that just lovely? Looks like the inner bearing race right there too. It came off no problem. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005749.jpg Here we have what is left of BOTH bearings. Hard to see the wee needle bearings there, but they're there. Everything else is gone. I may need some help deciphering what's what and what I need to buy aside from the bearings. I have not taken apart the other side of this contraption just yet. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005722.jpg This was behind the bearing. Part of the bearing or no? http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005829.jpg This fell out of the wheel the same time as the final gear popping loose. No idea what it is or how it goes into place. I am looking at a minor hodge podge here. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_010000.jpg Here we have the wheel, after I pried the shattered remains of an outer bearing race out of it. The race left a small ring but it looks to be alright. Thank God. I did not want to have to buy a freakin' wheel. http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o187/sickmusician/IMG_20160616_005613.jpg So now I have to figure out what I need, and then it's time to pony up the cash. I may need help putting this mess back together. I have not disassembled the other side since it's a giant ball of grease and I don't want to ruin anything spraying degreaser all over it. But I'm sure both bearings and both seals are completely destroyed. I even had to deflate the tire to get the whole thing on the shop press. Thus ends chapter one of the most ridiculously irritating repair I have ever attempted. It should've just come out and saved both of us the trouble. To follow: Chapter 2: My wallet is crying. Why? Bike parts. Chapter 3: How does this damn thing go together? Sent you a PM hope it will help. Orlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paysaw Posted June 18, 2016 Share #11 Posted June 18, 2016 What parts are you looking for.I have spares.PM please so i can help.YOu pay shipping and you can have them if i have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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