wannarsv Posted May 29, 2013 Share #1 Posted May 29, 2013 O.K. I'm ready to start cutting wires. What do I need to get to convert from 5 wire to 4 wire. i have checked @ trac supply & they don't have a converter. I have a 2 gen & HF tag along. Thanks all, Mel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvester Posted May 29, 2013 Share #2 Posted May 29, 2013 Why change from 5 to 4? Use the 5 wire system by adding independent brake lights. I was surprised at how simple it was when I wired my trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playboy Posted May 29, 2013 Share #3 Posted May 29, 2013 Don't cut anything on the bike and get one of these http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showproduct.php? Then wire either 4 or 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1MECH Posted May 29, 2013 Share #4 Posted May 29, 2013 Shameless plug for my harnesses, I really do hate to hear it when folks say they cut into their harness when there is no reason to do so, at least for the bikes I can out fit fit with an aux harness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannarsv Posted May 29, 2013 Author Share #5 Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) I didn't cut it...I did get one of your harnesses. I guess I worded that wrong sorry...but that is normal for me. I guess what I need to know is where do I get the converter from I've looked around some & can't seem to find one. Part #'s would be good. I tried to search for info but couldn't find anything definite. O.K. this is the second edit...What the heck is wrong with me today.....I'm more of a goof-ball than normal. Thanks Guys, Mel Edited May 29, 2013 by wannarsv add to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacheedah Posted May 29, 2013 Share #6 Posted May 29, 2013 I agree don't cut, now I like a 5 to 4 so I run a 4 flat. My trailer has a high center brake light that I wired up with some diodes and relays but I can plug it into anything else and pull it. What you want is the lights isolated , like the Hopkins 46255, autozone, walmart , farm and fleet. . . should have one that works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted May 30, 2013 Share #7 Posted May 30, 2013 I just did mine today too. I used the Hopkins part#48895, from AutoZone, which will work with both LED and incandescent lighting. The way I did mine, I now have a pigtail in the rear for both 4-wire & 5-wire trailers. I like being versatile. Converter was $24.95. The thing that will mess you up, is the bike harness colors are the same color, but different function. Bike Harness next to battery... Black=ground Yellow=brake...This is where the red wire from the converter ties in. Blue=tail/running light Brown= Left Turn Green=Right Turn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacheedah Posted May 30, 2013 Share #8 Posted May 30, 2013 You really want to isolate your circuits , 46365 isolates them so if you have a short on trailer side it does not damage bike side wiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayceesfolly Posted May 30, 2013 Share #9 Posted May 30, 2013 I bought this converter for my HF trailer and it works perfectly. All trailer lights run off separate circuit to protect the bikes wiring. I put a fuse in line with the red wire. Good company to deal with and quick shipping. P and R Carriages on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trailer-Light-Isolated-Power-Supply-Converter-5-to-4-wire-PM32-/290660635436?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43acb9532c&vxp=mtr Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meach Posted May 31, 2013 Share #10 Posted May 31, 2013 I used the powered Hopkins 46255 converter from Amazon for around 38$. The only one I could find in local auto store (Pep boys) was 50$, none other had it or any other brand (autozone, advance auto, etc). I originally wired up a different converter I had laying around the garage but went with the powered model after I was messing with trailer lights and shorted one out which blew fuse on bike, no more of that. With the powered converter all the lights are also brighter on my HF (I added some additional LED's) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wannarsv Posted May 31, 2013 Author Share #11 Posted May 31, 2013 Thanks for all the info......Ya'll are the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G in SC Posted May 31, 2013 Share #12 Posted May 31, 2013 Thanks for this thread. I have a "new" trailer that is hooked up "different" and my RSV is hard wired for Turn/Run Brake LED, and already wired for trailer. But not good with the new trailer. (but the trailer works with my car.) I have Steve K's harness and been emailing with him. Will likely use the ebay (thanks Jcfolly) converter and do a fresh run from the harness. Thanks, Mike G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayceesfolly Posted May 31, 2013 Share #13 Posted May 31, 2013 Mike G: The converter worked great for me and it was cheap. R and P Carriages shipped right away and were great to work with. Would definitely purchase from them again. They also have some great LED lights ("safety chrome" to me) that are very reasonably priced and are good quality. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted May 31, 2013 Share #14 Posted May 31, 2013 Mike G: The converter worked great for me and it was cheap. R and P Carriages shipped right away and were great to work with. Would definitely purchase from them again. They also have some great LED lights ("safety chrome" to me) that are very reasonably priced and are good quality. Jim Troublemaker........ You had to mention R&P Carriages where I could see it. I had forgotten about them........ I want to make a run down there to get a new axle assembly with 7 inch electric brakes to add to my HF trailer. They seem to have a lot of stuff at good prices. You can never have to many lights. Tonight (weather permitting) I am adding an 11 LED center brake light to my trailer with a controller circuit board to make the center brake light work correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M61A1MECH Posted May 31, 2013 Share #15 Posted May 31, 2013 Jeff Do not forget about my offer, it is still sitting here waiting to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave_wells Posted June 2, 2013 Share #16 Posted June 2, 2013 Don't cut anything on the bike and get one of these http://www.venturerider.org/classifieds/showproduct.php? Then wire either 4 or 5 Real simple to install I ordered it and had it in 2 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted June 2, 2013 Share #17 Posted June 2, 2013 I just finished a complete rewire on my trailer including the center brake light and my nifty controller module so that the light will work correctly. I have enough parts to make one more controller........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G in SC Posted June 9, 2013 Share #18 Posted June 9, 2013 I bought this converter for my HF trailer and it works perfectly. All trailer lights run off separate circuit to protect the bikes wiring. I put a fuse in line with the red wire. Good company to deal with and quick shipping. P and R Carriages on eBay. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Trailer-Light-Isolated-Power-Supply-Converter-5-to-4-wire-PM32-/290660635436?pt=Motors_RV_Trailer_Camper_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43acb9532c&vxp=mtr Jim Jim, Thanks again for that link. Steve K had suggested an isolator to protect the bike wiring. But, also, my bike is wired for run/turn/brake and was complicating hookup to my new trailer. I got same isolator and, with Steve's harness, all is good. I did put the isolator under the seat and, basically ran a trailer extension to the tail of the bike. And, yep quick turnaround from their Ebay shop. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brake Pad Posted June 9, 2013 Share #19 Posted June 9, 2013 , LETS SEE THESE TRAILERS !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G in SC Posted June 9, 2013 Share #20 Posted June 9, 2013 (edited) Oh, Pics. First two are the new trailer (new to me) 2010 Towblazer. (same unit as a model of Escalade, different seller) I ran up to Jersey to pick it up in April. Have only towed it local but,,,, very nice. On the rear/bottom is a LED light bar that made me rewire the bike. Last pic is my Harbor Freight with Sears Cargo shell. I've had it a few years. Was time for an upgrade. Still in good shape. I will probably put it in the classifieds soon. Mike G. Edited June 9, 2013 by Mike G in SC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayceesfolly Posted June 10, 2013 Share #21 Posted June 10, 2013 Mike: Here is my trailer. I put the plug under the license plate which holds it in place. Just a zip tie to the corner of the plate frame to keep it tucked under when I am not using it. I had about 200 lbs in it for the trip to Don's MD and got 39 MPG @ 65 MPH. Ran most of the distance with the cruise. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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