Trader Posted May 21, 2012 Share #1 Posted May 21, 2012 to have the dealer change out the rubber on the front, (removed from bike) do I have to also remove the discs from the wheel? I'm thinking not...but I want to be sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etcswjoe Posted May 21, 2012 Share #2 Posted May 21, 2012 Not required to remove the disc, however make sure you do not lay the wheel down on the disc you can warp them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taking it EZ Posted May 21, 2012 Share #3 Posted May 21, 2012 The only stupid question is the one you fail to ask:cool10: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 21, 2012 Author Share #4 Posted May 21, 2012 Thanks....I thought so....but better to ask than to be charged extra! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playboy Posted May 21, 2012 Share #5 Posted May 21, 2012 So how did you get your rubber tangled up in the front wheel. Never mind I don't really want to know must be a first gen thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted May 22, 2012 Share #6 Posted May 22, 2012 So how did you get your rubber tangled up in the front wheel. Never mind I don't really want to know must be a first gen thing. Inquiring minds want to know..., NOT!!!!! :crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup::crackup: :rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf::rotf: :clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2::clap2: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share #7 Posted May 22, 2012 So how did you get your rubber tangled up in the front wheel. Never mind I don't really want to know must be a first gen thing. the explaination is quite simple. First Gens just move so fast the rubber gets hot and soft and has a hard time keeping up. PLEASE>>>NO VIAGRA COMMENTS!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playboy Posted May 22, 2012 Share #8 Posted May 22, 2012 the explaination is quite simple. First Gens just move so fast the rubber gets hot and soft and has a hard time keeping up. PLEASE>>>NO VIAGRA COMMENTS!!!!! You guys sure are hard on the gals you go with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted May 22, 2012 Share #9 Posted May 22, 2012 the explaination is quite simple. First Gens just move so fast the rubber gets hot and soft and has a hard time keeping up. PLEASE>>>NO VIAGRA COMMENTS!!!!! A lot of things come to mind,,,, but I type slow and I have other things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted May 22, 2012 OK....got the old tire removed and the new(used) tire mounted for only $10...but the shop I went to don't do balancing on a bike tire. They are a small auto repair shop selling car tires and also a cycle salvage place I replaced an "elite II" with the same brand tire. He took all the weights off the rim so I have no idea how the balance is (haven't reinstalled the wheel yet) Is balancing the wheel anything I can do myself? If yes....HOW? If nothing else I'll put a can of Ride ON in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider Posted May 22, 2012 Share #11 Posted May 22, 2012 OK....got the old tire removed and the new(used) tire mounted for only $10...but the shop I went to don't do balancing on a bike tire. They are a small auto repair shop selling car tires and also a cycle salvage place I replaced an "elite II" with the same brand tire. He took all the weights off the rim so I have no idea how the balance is (haven't reinstalled the wheel yet) Is balancing the wheel anything I can do myself? If yes....HOW? If nothing else I'll put a can of Ride ON in it. Dynabeads. RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted May 22, 2012 Share #12 Posted May 22, 2012 Put the axle through the wheel and sit the ends of the axle on something that will hold the wheel off the ground, like jack stands. Spin the wheel slowly and the heavy spot will go to the bottom. Add weights opposite of the heavy spot until there is no heavy spot and that will generally balance the tire/wheel. RandyA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacheedah Posted May 22, 2012 Share #13 Posted May 22, 2012 PB are they saying they can't keep their rubber hard?? I just wonder what rubber they are using... here is a youtube balancing [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jiCDbHLI9Zs]Balancing a motorcycle tire - YouTube[/ame] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted May 22, 2012 Share #14 Posted May 22, 2012 Put the axle through the wheel and sit the ends of the axle on something that will hold the wheel off the ground, like jack stands. Spin the wheel slowly and the heavy spot will go to the bottom. Add weights opposite of the heavy spot until there is no heavy spot and that will generally balance the tire/wheel. RandyA It is good to have this bar level, and smooth, so no threads and clean, so no rust to stop the rotation of the tire. Usually you spin the tire, mark the bottom when it stops, then spin it again, that way you can be assured the tire is spinning freely, if the mark is at the bottom both times. Also, if you spin it forward the first time, spin it backwards the second time. The amount of weight you add is your guess, so to confirm you have it right, test it again, and then do the math as to how much more you need to add or take off. Now if you are going to take something off, make sure first that the neighbors aren't looking or you might have to spend some time in resuscitation. And yes,, you should balance it, otherwise you won't be happy at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share #15 Posted May 22, 2012 Looks simple enough that even I could do it. So....are stick on weights legal in Ontario? I know I have some from flying RC. Otherwise it means a trip to town! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted May 22, 2012 Share #16 Posted May 22, 2012 I would check with the dealer...I had my front changed at a Honda dealer a few years back and they had to remove the disc's on my 06. I didn't see them do it but they said they did and charged me for it. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 22, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted May 22, 2012 I did the balance as per video.....ended up I needed 1 3/4 oz. to get it pretty close. Not so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted May 22, 2012 Share #18 Posted May 22, 2012 Looks simple enough that even I could do it. So....are stick on weights legal in Ontario? I know I have some from flying RC. Otherwise it means a trip to town! They seem to be legal, I have them on mine, dealer installed, just make sure you clean with contact cleaner before sticky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted May 23, 2012 Author Share #19 Posted May 23, 2012 Oh....by the way....the Yamaha Dealer near me refused to install my used tire due to "liability issues". The thing is like new ...not that they even bothered to look at it! I got the wheel back on....spent a lot of time working on the front running lights and getting them up and running. So now I just have to figure out how to compress the brake pads to get the calipers back on. I am assuming I need to break open the bleeder to be able to press them back or is there an easier way? It would be a pain to have to bleed the system if not required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted May 23, 2012 Share #20 Posted May 23, 2012 Squeeze them back with a large set of Plumbers pliers or maybe a c-clamp. No need to open anything except the reservoir lid so that in case you push back more fluid than what it can hold, it can now overflow. Make sure you put a catch all under the reservoir. Meantime, check the condition of the fluid, if it looks cloudy or dirty, it's time for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacheedah Posted May 23, 2012 Share #21 Posted May 23, 2012 just some time, I would also suggest marking your heavy end with chalk, it is just easier to see what effect your weights are having in the balancing process. I would also put a clean rag around the master to catch any spillage if you loosten the top. Look at your levels, you could use a syrenge to draw some out if it's too high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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