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    Default 1986 Venture Royale Issues

    Hi,

    I have a 1986 Venture Royale, that I have had for just a bit and just started riding. The air suspension is not working, is that easy to replace? When the bike warms up, I start having shifting issues, I cannot get it into Neutral. Shut it down, start is up when it cools off and I can shift into neutral and start it. Any solutions?

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    With engine stopped and wheels not rolling there is usually pressure on transmission preventing it from shifting to neutral. If you're going to neutral shift before you get stopped or move the bike forward or back to free the pressure on the transmission when you want to shift to neutral. VR doesn't have automatic neutral finder like my Vulcan 2000 and some other models.

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    Air ride only works with the key in the ACC position. If that doesn't work for you then we need more info. Does the control light up and what error codes are you getting.
    Neutral can be a pain at times, often easier to find from 2nd than from 1st. Try changing the clutch fluid and making sure the clutch is properly bled. If the clutch doesn't release properly it'll be hard to find neutral.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatonka82 View Post
    The air suspension is not working, is that easy to replace?
    Depends on what part of the C.L.A.S.S. (air leveling system) is not working. Does the controller light up and display anything besides "psi"? As Marcarl says, the CLASS can be operated only when the keyed ignition switch is at the ACC position.
    If the controller does not turn on, check the CLASS fuse. It is a glass fuse within a rubber waterproof in-line fuse holder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tatonka82 View Post
    When the bike warms up, I start having shifting issues, I cannot get it into Neutral. Shut it down, start is up when it cools off and I can shift into neutral and start it. Any solutions?
    Again as Carl says; probably requires a fluid flush and bleed of the clutch hydraulic system. I lost the capability to disengage the clutch completely on my then new to me 1990 when I was riding it home from the seller's business. Old water contaminated fluid was the cause.
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    Thanks Gentlemen. You will get a kick out of this, I called a "premiere" Yamaha dealer in ND. The service person asked me if a Venture Royale was a boat, and when updated replied with the stock, we don't work on bikes that old. I asked, what about boats?

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    Yup, most dealers will not touch a bike more than 10 years old.
    Most of there mechanics are probably not old enough to have ever seen a NEW 1st gen Venture.
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    Both local dealers to me will work on 1st gens, but plainly told me they won't work on restoring Mike's 1st gen. Too many problems that will likely lead to more problems. Both stated when he finds a reliable 1st gen they will happily do work on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prairiehammer View Post
    Depends on what part of the C.L.A.S.S. (air leveling system) is not working. Does the controller light up and display anything besides "psi"? As Marcarl says, the CLASS can be operated only when the keyed ignition switch is at the ACC position.
    If the controller does not turn on, check the CLASS fuse. It is a glass fuse within a rubber waterproof in-line fuse holder.
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    Again as Carl says; probably requires a fluid flush and bleed of the clutch hydraulic system. I lost the capability to disengage the clutch completely on my then new to me 1990 when I was riding it home from the seller's business. Old water contaminated fluid was the cause.
    What is the best fluid to flush with a DOT 3? Which brand do you like?

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    Which is the best fluid to flush with a DOT 3, but any brand preference?

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    DOT3 or DOT 4 brake fluid. No brand preference.

    Just a FYI: When dealing with brake fluid around these Ventures, treat the brake fluid as if it were a plastic eating acid, because it is. Protect the bike with impermeable plastic and absorbent towels or such. Immediately wash any spills from the bike with copious amounts of soapy water and clear water rinse. Because spilled brake fluid will migrate into cracks and crevices and remain invisible, but will cause irreparable harm to the ABS plastic.
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    Thanks for the heads-up. I will figure up a plan.

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    I checked out the error code on the air ride, which gives me a code of E4.

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    The E4 error code is very common.
    Pull out the controller and resolder all of the connector pins to the circuit board. The solder cracks from old age and gives a bad connection.
    Jeff Borowski . . Had 88 Venture standard, now 2011 Silverado 4x4
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    Also, the Air Ride, Control Head, Cable, about 3 inches from head, is a Pull Apart Plug. Check the Pins in those plugs for
    being LOOSE. You might have to RE - Solder the pins, with a " Small Soldering iron " .

    While you are working on your bike, Open, and Clean, EVERY Electrical PLUG, you can get your hands On !!

    If your bike still has an Lead Acid, old style battery, get a new AGM type Dry Cell !!! Money Well Spent !!

    Clean ALL the Electical Switches in both handle bar units, with Electrical Contact Cleaner , ( Its a good thing to do )

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    Default Re: 1986 Venture Royale Issues

    Hi Iím having a code E1 on my air ride can anyone help with this??
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