igya Posted July 22, 2008 Share #1 Posted July 22, 2008 My Venture is a 1985 and I'd like to swap out the 1200cc engine with a 1300cc from a 1988 Venture. Are there any issues that would prevent the newer engine from working out OK? I think you all know why................ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidley Posted July 22, 2008 Share #2 Posted July 22, 2008 2nd gear I'm not positive, but I dont believe that there will be any problems as the motor is a direct bolt in. The carbs from your 1200 might be an issue, I know some others will chime in on that. The electronic should all be the same too as it is an '85, the '83 had a different TCI if I'm not mistaken. Hang tight I know there will be other that will chime in, I know it has been sucessfully done. BTW.....Welcome to the club! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeze Posted July 22, 2008 Share #3 Posted July 22, 2008 Just bolt the Motor in. The '85 Carbs may leave Room for Improvement open on a 1300cc Engine, but for just getting the Bike on the Road, it will work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano Posted July 23, 2008 Share #4 Posted July 23, 2008 Put some solid mounts in there while you're at it. You'll be amazed at the difference. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igya Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share #5 Posted July 23, 2008 Put some solid mounts in there while you're at it. You'll be amazed at the difference. Dan I'm not sure what you mean by "solid mounts." What kind of difference are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano Posted July 23, 2008 Share #6 Posted July 23, 2008 Solid motor mounts. There are 6 of them. Go to the Blue Mountain Sportbike ad at the top of the page when it comes up, they have the solid Delrin mounts. It stiffens up the chassis to make your bike handle better. Squeeze Probably has some more "technical"(!!) stuff he could tell you about the mounts and how they work. Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 23, 2008 Share #7 Posted July 23, 2008 My Venture is a 1985 and I'd like to swap out the 1200cc engine with a 1300cc from a 1988 Venture. Are there any issues that would prevent the newer engine from working out OK? I think you all know why................ You might try getting hold of Gone14S here on the board. He just installed an '88/1300 that I sold him in his '84VR. From what what I gather he just swapped out the motor and kept everything..carbs, electical... off the '84. He ended up with one very nice '84.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igya Posted July 23, 2008 Author Share #8 Posted July 23, 2008 You might try getting hold of Gone14S here on the board. He just installed an '88/1300 that I sold him in his '84VR. From what what I gather he just swapped out the motor and kept everything..carbs, electical... off the '84. He ended up with one very nice '84.... Great! How would I go about getting in touch with GONE14S? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 23, 2008 Share #9 Posted July 23, 2008 Great! How would I go about getting in touch with GONE14S? This board has a feature called a Private Message..PM.. Look up his name in the members list and leave him a message. He'll get it the next time he logs on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igya Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted July 24, 2008 This board has a feature called a Private Message..PM.. Look up his name in the members list and leave him a message. He'll get it the next time he logs on. HEY! I bought me a good running, low mile, '87 1300 cc engine for $340. I'm gonna go ahead and smoke the 1200 until 2nd gear cogs blow through the cases.....and just laugh about it! Now I can worry about other thing for awhile. Thanks for all your help guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igya Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share #11 Posted July 24, 2008 This board has a feature called a Private Message..PM.. Look up his name in the members list and leave him a message. He'll get it the next time he logs on. HEY! I bought me a good running, low mile, '87 1300 cc engine for $340. I'm gonna go ahead and smoke the 1200 until 2nd gear cogs blow through the cases.....and just laugh about it! Now I can worry about other thing for awhile. Thanks for all your help guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 24, 2008 Share #12 Posted July 24, 2008 HEY! I bought me a good running, low mile, '87 1300 cc engine for $340. I'm gonna go ahead and smoke the 1200 until 2nd gear cogs blow through the cases.....and just laugh about it! Now I can worry about other thing for awhile. Thanks for all your help guys!!! So what did you do, buy another one??. Your original post said you had an '88 you were going to install.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano Posted July 24, 2008 Share #13 Posted July 24, 2008 I'll give you 100 bucks for the motor, don't blow it up!!! 'Cause when you stick that 1300 in your 84, I'll have the 2nd gear fixed, then pull up next to ya, and blow yer doors off! Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 24, 2008 Share #14 Posted July 24, 2008 I'll give you 100 bucks for the motor, don't blow it up!!! 'Cause when you stick that 1300 in your 84, I'll have the 2nd gear fixed, then pull up next to ya, and blow yer doors off! Dan Oh oh!! Here we go......:rotf: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano Posted July 24, 2008 Share #15 Posted July 24, 2008 Oh oh!! Here we go......:rotf: Did you expect any different??????? BTW, got the part in today, thanks alot Jack:thumbsup2: Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 24, 2008 Share #16 Posted July 24, 2008 Did you expect any different??????? BTW, got the part in today, thanks alot Jack:thumbsup2: Dan Glad to help.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igya Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share #17 Posted July 24, 2008 so what did you do, buy another one??. Your original post said you had an '88 you were going to install.... typo! An '88 fer sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igya Posted July 24, 2008 Author Share #18 Posted July 24, 2008 I'll give you 100 bucks for the motor, don't blow it up!!! 'Cause when you stick that 1300 in your 84, I'll have the 2nd gear fixed, then pull up next to ya, and blow yer doors off! Dan Maybe..................maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted July 24, 2008 Share #19 Posted July 24, 2008 I'll give you 100 bucks for the motor, don't blow it up!!! 'Cause when you stick that 1300 in your 84, I'll have the 2nd gear fixed, then pull up next to ya, and blow yer doors off! Dan Maybe..................maybe not. 1200 Vs 1300 YUP, it will happen............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidley Posted July 25, 2008 Share #20 Posted July 25, 2008 Dano....quite giving the members a hard time will ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igya Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share #21 Posted July 27, 2008 1200 Vs 1300 YUP, it will happen............... I don't get it. I can't see any way that a 1200 could be set up to blow a 1300 away, given the same is done with both. I'm a'thankin' the 1300 cams are a better start, never mind the higher compression ratio and extra CCs. Why would you think otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted July 27, 2008 Share #22 Posted July 27, 2008 I don't get it. I can't see any way that a 1200 could be set up to blow a 1300 away, given the same is done with both. I'm a'thankin' the 1300 cams are a better start, never mind the higher compression ratio and extra CCs. Why would you think otherwise? Time for Squeeze to step in and get technical..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dano Posted July 27, 2008 Share #23 Posted July 27, 2008 I think you got that one right, Condor. The 83's were the quickest out of the factory, 84 &85's the next quickest. CC's don't necessarily mean more power (350 small block versus standard 400 big block). Many items including cams, valve size, carburetion, TCI control, boost sensor operation all contribute to the effort. Also, maybe not so much, is weight difference. MK1's have smaller bags, albeit not much, but can make a difference. 100 pounds on a car is worth a 1/10 of a second on the track. I'm sure our resident techie Squeeze, will jump in here and 'splain the difference. Dan BTW, not bustin' your chops on this, Igya, just havin' some fun (OK Brad, I'm tryin'!!!). But I do know that you are able to tell the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gone14S Posted July 28, 2008 Share #24 Posted July 28, 2008 Great! How would I go about getting in touch with GONE14S? I answered your PM, I'll find my Phone number in it. Kurt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Posted July 28, 2008 Share #25 Posted July 28, 2008 I don't get it. I can't see any way that a 1200 could be set up to blow a 1300 away, given the same is done with both. I'm a'thankin' the 1300 cams are a better start, never mind the higher compression ratio and extra CCs. Why would you think otherwise? Slightly more mass to move internally (larger engine pistons), they played with the carbs & ignition systems some. The de-tuning begins with the Mk2 & even more with the 2nd gen. If you haven't noticed, the Vmax was based on the Venture 1200 engine, stayed at 1200 for over 20 years, did not change it over to 1300, yet they could have done it. Now if you really want that to fly, put a Vmax motor into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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