ChiefCass Posted June 11, 2014 Share #1 Posted June 11, 2014 Hi all. Newbie needs help. Bought an 89 XVZ 1300. PO let me testride with "blown rear shock air line". I told him I'd buy bike if he fixed. I bought bike and I'm told it sits THREE INCHES TOO HIGH IN THE REAR!!! I know it ain't anywhere as smooth a ride as my old Wing... even with only 5psi in the rear shock. What's going on and did I screw up royale [PUN] I have an 89 parts bike in the shed (blown head gasket, broken clutch cylinder and other) but I really am not ready to do a shock swap if it's something simple. Ideas and opinions please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted June 11, 2014 Share #2 Posted June 11, 2014 Pics, we need pics:worthless: Who told you it is 3 inches to high in the rear? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted June 11, 2014 My nephew, who put 45000 miles on my 89 parts bike. I was asking him why the centerstand seemed so short - bike has both wheels firmly on ground while on centerstand! He said rear wheel should be 1-3 inches off the ground and something's funky with the monoshock. The previous owner supplied the old shock and yoke assembly so I could repair it in future - said he got replacement online and it fit / lined-up just like original. I smell a rodent... I'll get pictures when I get home this weekend once the honeydew is did. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share #4 Posted June 11, 2014 This is picture of bike with airline broken off the original(?) shock - low rider. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted June 11, 2014 And me post-testride... GRIN! Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share #6 Posted June 11, 2014 Those are only pics I have with me... I'll take and post more this weekend, God willing & the Creek don't rise. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted June 11, 2014 Share #7 Posted June 11, 2014 Hoew much air in rear? Hard to tell how low it is sitting while on centerstand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KIC Posted June 11, 2014 Share #8 Posted June 11, 2014 (edited) Did somebody cut down the center stand due to an issue with their height deficiency ? Edited June 11, 2014 by KIC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecdoo Posted June 11, 2014 Share #9 Posted June 11, 2014 Take a meas. from the ground to a common ref. point on the bike, and ask other first gen owners to do the same, to see if your bike really sits 3" higher? Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share #10 Posted June 11, 2014 Yamaha changed the linkage and swingarm in 1988..if he somehow used a 83-87 linkage it might explain the difference. The linkage arm length is most likely different....best bet get the parts bike out...side by side and compare the linkages. In any event...don't ride the bike till you sort out the cause. heres 86... http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1986/VENTURE%20ROYALE%20-%20XVZ1300DS/SWING%20ARM/parts.html heres 89.. http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1989/VENTURE%20ROYALE%20-%20XVZ1300DW/SWING%20ARM/parts.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted June 11, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted June 11, 2014 Thanks. That's probably EXACTLY what's going on. 20/20 hindsight shows me seller was evasive about parts source. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted June 11, 2014 Share #12 Posted June 11, 2014 well as I say....somehow...have a look at both. These bikes have typically been through several owners hard to know whats been done and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted June 12, 2014 Author Share #13 Posted June 12, 2014 Simple solution: I'll verify air pressure on parts and ride bikes and measure ground clearance to bottom edge of bags when I get home Saturday. I'll post then. Eyeball says 2 inches different ... Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted June 20, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted June 20, 2014 2 inches higher and definitely different geometry under there. Now I know. Thanks for input folks. I'll post again after I tear parts bike down, free the assembly the do same to ridable and install everything. Yuk. I'd rather be riding... Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #15 Posted September 4, 2015 Final word: Different geometry on 3 purchased replacement shocks & linkages. Bike VIN says 1989. Took bikes original shock and linkage apart, installed best of 3 used shocks into linkage and then into bike and got satisfaction. I honestly don't know if bike is 88 or 89 - possibly an 89 built with 88 frame?!!! Don't really care as it's now ridable and I'll never have another shock problem, not with 2 spares . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted September 4, 2015 Author Share #16 Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Oops Edited September 4, 2015 by ChiefCass Double posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna9656 Posted September 7, 2015 Share #17 Posted September 7, 2015 Glad to see Neil is posting again! HIYA NEIL!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cimmer Posted September 8, 2015 Share #18 Posted September 8, 2015 It could be an 89 built in late 88, but both years use the same swing arms, A-arms and shocks, so you should be ok with it. Good luck Rick F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefCass Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share #19 Posted September 15, 2015 Got it sorted out with original to the bike linkages and new recycled shock. Had total of 4 shocks and linkages laying around or mounted. 3 linkages too high, only correct was original so it's back on bike and all is well. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G870A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mralex714 Posted September 16, 2015 Share #20 Posted September 16, 2015 (edited) I have an 86 and 89. I took a look at the linkages on both and they are physically different. Take a look a parts illustration of the 2 and they are different. I thought my 86 sits high but it has the correct linkage, any thoughts. 83-87 http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/a/yam/50042b00f8700209bc78972b/swing-arm 88-93 http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/a/yam/5107f839f870022108d6577b/swing-arm Edited September 16, 2015 by mralex714 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mralex714 Posted September 16, 2015 Share #21 Posted September 16, 2015 Yamaha changed the linkage and swingarm in 1988..if he somehow used a 83-87 linkage it might explain the difference. The linkage arm length is most likely different....best bet get the parts bike out...side by side and compare the linkages. In any event...don't ride the bike till you sort out the cause. heres 86... http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1986/VENTURE%20ROYALE%20-%20XVZ1300DS/SWING%20ARM/parts.html heres 89.. http://www.boats.net/parts/search/Yamaha/Motorcycle/1989/VENTURE%20ROYALE%20-%20XVZ1300DW/SWING%20ARM/parts.html The parts illustration show 3 different frame part numbers 83-85 http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/p/yamaha/41r-21110-00-33/frame-comp-26h-21110-02-33 86-87 http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/p/yamaha/1nl-21110-00-33/frame http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/p/yamaha/1nl-21110-00-33/frame 88-93 http://www.yamahapartshouse.com/oemparts/p/yamaha/2wr-21110-00-33/frame-comp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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