frmarksiegelhotmail.com Posted May 18, 2009 Share #1 Posted May 18, 2009 I want to replace the stock speakers on 07 RSV. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flb_78 Posted May 18, 2009 Share #2 Posted May 18, 2009 I have Polk DB401's in my Venture. They are marine grade so you have to worry about them getting wet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
similost Posted May 18, 2009 Share #3 Posted May 18, 2009 I just ordered some of the Polk 401's myself, but be warned.. they have been discontinued, so you may be waiting for a while on backorders.... I'm looking for a place that has a set in stock so I can order a second pair. (at a decent price) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted May 18, 2009 Share #4 Posted May 18, 2009 I have Polk DB401's in my Venture. They are marine grade so you have to worry about them getting wet. I installed the Polk DB401's in my 06 Venture last year and to be honest, I didn't see or hear the improvement.. If anything, the audio level went down a wee tad. Great speakers but not as loud as the OEM.. The Polks are still in the bike, they work ok but I was expecting better to be honest.. Playing tunes from my iPod Nano, I can bring the volume up to 21 before hearing distortion while the OEMs I could bring the volume up to 23 or 24 for the same song before hearing distortion.. Other people say they hear the improvement, others don't.. Your mileage may vary.. Cheers M8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
similost Posted May 18, 2009 Share #5 Posted May 18, 2009 I installed the Polk DB401's in my 06 Venture last year and to be honest, I didn't see or hear the improvement.. If anything, the audio level went down a wee tad. Great speakers but not as loud as the OEM.. The Polks are still in the bike, they work ok but I was expecting better to be honest.. Playing tunes from my iPod Nano, I can bring the volume up to 21 before hearing distortion while the OEMs I could bring the volume up to 23 or 24 for the same song before hearing distortion.. Other people say they hear the improvement, others don't.. Your mileage may vary.. Cheers M8 Very interesting.. does anyone know the brand of the OEM speakers or the efficiency rating of the OEM speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuddyRich Posted May 18, 2009 Share #6 Posted May 18, 2009 Clarion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew Posted May 18, 2009 Share #7 Posted May 18, 2009 great thread guys. I am getting ready to replace mine. Nice info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamaDuck Posted May 18, 2009 Share #8 Posted May 18, 2009 I replaced mine with Polk db401's. I got one pair off ebay for $56.95 with free shipping and I got the other pair off ebay for $41.95 with free shipping. You just have to keep checking ebay until you find a deal. My 401's sound a lot better than my stock speakers of course my bike is a 2000 model so the speakers were getting old. The Clarion's are 12 watt speakers but I don't know if that is RMS. the speakers just have that stamped on the back. The Polk's are 45 watt RMS and my radio does not have any problem powering the speakers. A friend has Polk db401's on his and he has no problem powering his. There is a member on one of the forums that said his Polk db401's were chirping and he put a small amp in his and it got rid of the chirp. Mine or my friends are not chirping so maybe he had a bad connection or something. Wal-Mart has a pair of 4" speakers for $30. I think it may be a store brand and I am not sure if they are marine speakers but it may be worth a try to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50btripn Posted May 18, 2009 Share #9 Posted May 18, 2009 I installed the Polk Db401's front and rear about 4 months ago. Not any louder than stock IMHO, but definitely better sound quality. With stock I could go to about 24 maybe 25 before the speakers would basically "bottom out". I can now go a full 30 with the Polks. I like them over stock. I got all 4 speakers on Ebay for $80 and free shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
similost Posted May 18, 2009 Share #10 Posted May 18, 2009 The problem isn't over powering the OEM or the Polk speakers. The problem is the amp clipping... You push an amp too far, and the signal starts to clip, and starts sending a lot of DC current into the speakers, hence distortion... The reason I was asking about the efficiency rating is, because a speaker may take 45 watts peak, but they may only be rated at 89/w/m efficiency... which means with one watt, it will be 89db loud at 1 meter... SO.. it's possible for a higher rated peak wattage speaker to not play as loud as a speaker rated at 15 watts which has an efficiency rating of 94/w/m I'm not so much after loudness, as I am after a better sounding speaker which is why I wanted to try the Polks.. If I want louder, I know I'm going to have to add an amp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamaDuck Posted May 18, 2009 Share #11 Posted May 18, 2009 The problem isn't over powering the OEM or the Polk speakers. The problem is the amp clipping... You push an amp too far, and the signal starts to clip, and starts sending a lot of DC current into the speakers, hence distortion... The reason I was asking about the efficiency rating is, because a speaker may take 45 watts peak, but they may only be rated at 89/w/m efficiency... which means with one watt, it will be 89db loud at 1 meter... SO.. it's possible for a higher rated peak wattage speaker to not play as loud as a speaker rated at 15 watts which has an efficiency rating of 94/w/m I'm not so much after loudness, as I am after a better sounding speaker which is why I wanted to try the Polks.. If I want louder, I know I'm going to have to add an amp.. I'm sure you know what you want because that all sounds Greek to me. I just know the Polk sound better to me than my original speakers. I can't tell if they are any louder or as loud as they are so close to the originals in volume they are just clearer especially at the higher volumes above 24 on the radio dial. It may have something to do with the Polk having two cones instead of one like the Clarion. I do know I have no problem hearing the radio but when play the MP3 or IPOD players the recorded volume is lower than the radio volume so I just put a Radio Shack battery powered amp in my MP3/IPOD circut and it is pleanty load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outlawauto38 Posted May 18, 2009 Share #12 Posted May 18, 2009 i have 401 polks also. i know it sounds better and i can turn it up louder but i did have a blown stock speaker. i also installed base blockers and boom mats on all 4. the install was very easy and it was worth it to me. i wish i did it sooner. i know on certain songs off of my mp3 i can turn it up to 24 to 26 with no distortion. i can hear it doing 80-85 with barron 4-2-4 s with no packing.i know the boom mats help direct the sound to me and the bass blockers really take out the low frequences that make speakers distort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamaDuck Posted May 19, 2009 Share #13 Posted May 19, 2009 i have 401 polks also. i know it sounds better and i can turn it up louder but i did have a blown stock speaker. i also installed base blockers and boom mats on all 4. the install was very easy and it was worth it to me. i wish i did it sooner. i know on certain songs off of my mp3 i can turn it up to 24 to 26 with no distortion. i can hear it doing 80-85 with barron 4-2-4 s with no packing.i know the boom mats help direct the sound to me and the bass blockers really take out the low frequences that make speakers distort. What are boom mats? Is that the box you can put around you speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
similost Posted May 19, 2009 Share #14 Posted May 19, 2009 I'm sure you know what you want because that all sounds Greek to me. I just know the Polk sound better to me than my original speakers. I can't tell if they are any louder or as loud as they are so close to the originals in volume they are just clearer especially at the higher volumes above 24 on the radio dial. It may have something to do with the Polk having two cones instead of one like the Clarion. I do know I have no problem hearing the radio but when play the MP3 or IPOD players the recorded volume is lower than the radio volume so I just put a Radio Shack battery powered amp in my MP3/IPOD circut and it is pleanty load. Same thing with me.. I use a Storm with Pandora and it wasn't hardly loud enough so I got one of those ratshack battery amps too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 19, 2009 Share #15 Posted May 19, 2009 Seaking, Take a couple songs and turn them into a higher bit rate lets say 256 or 320 and then try it., you will notice a difference. just my 2 cents worth. YamaDuck, boom mats deflect the sound toward you, so the music does not fall into the fairing losing the sound. (make since?) I use them myself. they mount behind the speaker. Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeithR Posted May 19, 2009 Share #16 Posted May 19, 2009 I guess this is what you call a boom mat (speaker baffles). Found mine on E Bay. Keith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 19, 2009 Share #17 Posted May 19, 2009 CrutchFields has them as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted May 19, 2009 Share #18 Posted May 19, 2009 I guess this is what you call a boom mat (speaker baffles). Found mine on E Bay. Keith What do they do for your sound system? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaking Posted May 19, 2009 Share #19 Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Seaking, Take a couple songs and turn them into a higher bit rate lets say 256 or 320 and then try it., you will notice a difference. just my 2 cents worth. YamaDuck, boom mats deflect the sound toward you, so the music does not fall into the fairing losing the sound. (make since?) I use them myself. they mount behind the speaker. Jeff Hi Cougar, I rip my own music from my CD collections and they are ripped at 192 or higher.. after that level it should not make any difference in quality.. (from what I've read) but I'll try a couple of songs and see if it holds true on this system.. I went on eBay and found 4" boom mats and yeah good luck, they sell like for $10US with $23 shipping.. (ha!) However, Crutchfield Canada sells them for under $10 CDN and much cheaper shipping.. But they are listing various depth.. Is the 4" x 2-5/8" depth version deep enough for the Polk;s 1-7/8 size? The only other one they list is 4" x 3-7/8" depth In the US these are called Boom Mats, in Canada they are called Speaker Baffles lol.. Thanks for the insight info.. much appreciated.. Edited May 19, 2009 by Seaking search & found info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
similost Posted May 19, 2009 Share #20 Posted May 19, 2009 Actually.. theese Baffles (never heard them called boom mats) are not for redirecting sound. There is no way for the waves being produced behind the cone to physically get in front of the cone... What these baffles do is load the driver. It actually alters the cone movement, and allows more bass to be produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YamaDuck Posted May 19, 2009 Share #21 Posted May 19, 2009 (edited) Thanks Similost and Couger:thumbsup2: Edited May 19, 2009 by YamaDuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 19, 2009 Share #22 Posted May 19, 2009 Seaking, get the narrowest one's.. they will stretch a bit. but careful as pulling to hard they can also tear. there VERY tight in the rear.. you will NOT use the OEM screen mesh toss them out. Also look here. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=18228 Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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