tiny84 Posted June 17, 2007 Share #1 Posted June 17, 2007 Ok so here is an interesting question, I have an 84 venture royale I had it sitting idling and the voltage guage kept going a lil lower then the engine stalled out. the bike was running for a bit I was trying to work the cob webs out from not running for so long. my question is does the stator on the venture not put out alot of power at a low idle? I think it does idle a lil low so I was thinking it might not be putting out enough power unless I raise the idle. when I rolled on the throttle the power came up so it was produceing enough power if i was riding it. is this common for the venture or is my idle just set too low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOO Posted June 17, 2007 Share #2 Posted June 17, 2007 The voltage will get low enough to cause the engine to quit but not with the stator working properly. Even at a real low idle I don't think that can happen. Are you able to start the bike after it quits running without jump starting it? If you can then it's probably just an idle issue. These things idle pretty fast and if you have junk in the carbs they may just be shutting down from the dirt etc. Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted June 18, 2007 Share #3 Posted June 18, 2007 If your battery was charged good and it done that, I would be concerned. But what idle rpm are you seeing. I tend to keep my idle around 600-700 and that seems lower than most. If your battery is low and the idle is low, it does send to stumble a bit at idle. RandyA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny84 Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share #4 Posted June 18, 2007 ok my estimation is that i'm in the range of maybe 500 rpms right now. my guages don't read the rpms all that acurately. i had to jump the bike to get it to run. still has a hard time starting so it takes a few tries to get it going, so i jumped it to get it going instead of killing the brand new battery i put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86er Posted June 18, 2007 Share #5 Posted June 18, 2007 I was talking to Squidley yesterday (just b-4 he and Lonna fell off the face of the earth) and he said there is an upgrade for the 1st gen stator. I don't remember what company he said makes it, but I plan to find out when he finds his way back to this planet in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny84 Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share #6 Posted June 18, 2007 i guess i'll be waiting with baited breath as well:cool10: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeze Posted June 18, 2007 Share #7 Posted June 18, 2007 Hey, 500 RpM on Idle is too low to produce a fair Ammount of Loading Amps. If everthing on the Bike, as Carbs, Carb-Balancing, Plugs, Spark-Wires, electrical Connectors is well maintaned, you could run it at 500 RpM Idle, but imho, it's too low. I set mine at 900 RpM, that's a fair Value and better to Handle, especially when riding 2-up. Our Engines are not designed to run them as an agricutural Tractor .... While you're holding your Breath, why just not give your DMM a Shot and check the Voltages on your Bike ? Should be around 15 Volts AC at the Output Side of the Stator, measured each two of those 3 Wires against each other. The Value isn't the priority, all threee Measurements should show nearly same Voltages. Resistance from those Wires versus Ground should be infinte. On the DC-Side, there should be at least 12.2 to 12.8 Volts across the Battery-Posts, when the Motors not running. While the Engines runs, there should be at least 12.8 Volts on the Post, the more the better. If there are more than 15 Volts, the R/R is shot. As you're taking the Measurement, check the Connector from Stator to Regulator/Rectifier and clean then properly. If you have some Dielectric Grease by the Hand, it isn't a fault to use it here anyways. Also the Connector from R/R to the Wiring Harness could be cleaned and greased for saving the Contacts Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted June 21, 2007 Share #8 Posted June 21, 2007 Did you Charge the New Battery ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Posted June 21, 2007 Share #9 Posted June 21, 2007 Are you sure your engine is getting the oil it needs with the idle set so low???Oil pressure is a direct result of RPM...factory recommends 950 to 1050 rpm....just my thoughts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEIslander Posted June 21, 2007 Share #10 Posted June 21, 2007 Like Tommy said.. Factory idle is 1000rpm and below that the output is too low. The generator output is rpm dependant and is about 250 watts at 2500 rpm and max's out to 400 watts at 7000 rpm. Increase that idle and you'll be ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny84 Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share #11 Posted June 21, 2007 all the info I needed its what i kinda figured. I didn't think the bike should sound like the lawnmower. now the real trick is finding out which on the screws on the carbs controles idle. I realy need to buy a manual for this thing. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeze Posted June 21, 2007 Share #12 Posted June 21, 2007 Idle Screw is on the left side, in the middle between the two Carb-Bowl, which are seen from the Outside. It's below the Bowls and comes from vertical bottom and shows right upwards. The Screw is silver and has a big Head to move it with the Fingers. Manual can be found the 1Gen-Section here .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEIslander Posted June 21, 2007 Share #13 Posted June 21, 2007 Tiny84, Here is a link to the service manual in pdf format. http://labs.trunkful.com/8385servicemanual.pdf Juggler has hosted these manuals for download on his site just download it and save it on your harddisk. The idle adjustment is located between the carbs on the left side of the bike and has a plastic knob, don't mix it up with the sync screws which have slotted heads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted June 21, 2007 Share #14 Posted June 21, 2007 Don't mess with the Sync Screws ( one on left, two on right ) Unless you have mercury stiks, or the morgan carb tune. Just the Idle Adjust. You might also have to adjust the Throttle cables after you do the Main Idle Adjust Screw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiny84 Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share #15 Posted June 21, 2007 well thats going to make my job 1000 times easier!:cool10: Thanx for all the help and insight guys:banana::banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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