Graywulf

gotta get in the first Xmas day greetings thread. So merry Xmas to you all, just got the roast piggy going for dinner

Hi Steven, normally I'd agree with you, but in this case 'no'. Reason. To comply with the Euro emission reg's, Yamaha as I described closed the exup valve at the RPM 'noise testing' for exhaust is performed, this left both a power drop and then a 'power step' at 2750. {5.5k rpm redline} Standard the bikes ran out of 'puff' at 4.5k rpm. Obviously they also are 'lean burn' to comply with emission laws. The other major problem was they have an 'intelligent' closed O2 loop. It reads and adjusts even if you try to alter fuelling with a controller... Bypassing it, resulted {resistor} with the fault mode activating. It expected to see varying input, so a fixed one was regarded as a fault. {you needed the dynajet V with O2 optimser and autotune to overcome this with the factory standard ECU}. So Open lid airbox, K&N filter, gutted mufflers {internals including cat's removed, and 2inch perf S/steel running full length} would yes ordinarily produce as you describe., however it also required a replacement Yamaha factory 'stage 2' ECU, this removed the O2 circuit, also removed the Exup valve, and altered timing. fuelling and ignition curve. So what you were doing with a 'stage 2' tune was allowing the engine to be what it should be without all the emission controls. I can assure you placed against a bog standard and a stage 1 {K&N filter and road legal Akropovic muffles} It was noticeably faster, for top speed, acceleration and roll on/mid range torque. The extra top speed came really because the bike could now breath properly beyond 4.5k rpm. I'm on holiday for 2 weeks from tomorrow, so may not be able to get here, I think I'm still registered with the MT owners and could get a lot more info. There's one guy in Finland who ice raced an MT and was getting 'insane' power from it.

As I mentioned the two Canadian guys who 'go south' a lot were always saying how the 'yanks' would complain why they never got the MT-01. The new MT series are a 'budget' bike really.... Two things that killed the 01 were, price, it was a very expensive motorcycle. It was a flagship and made to Yamaha's 'flagship' standard. They also marketed it 'badly'. "for people who have become frightened of high power sports bikes and want something more manageable'. Instead of marketing it to it's strengths and it had a lot of them. Sadly a lot of 'testers' didn't get the concept. Complained it vibrated... oh hell did you FEEEEEEL that engine working! and that it didn't have 'power, redline was too low, they rode it as a sportbike 4cyl they were used to, rather than torque surfing. I had so much fun on fairly twisty sections of road when the sheer torque drive out of corners, I could upset a lot of sprotbike riders. I would rate the MT-01 as one of the top 4 bikes I have ever owned. A local HD mechanic rode mine and his comment was "It's a grown up's version of a Buel"

Does mileage change the 'whine'? I can't really notice anything on my 2006, with now 20k miles. {Although I do have V&H Ovals fitted} I can sometimes get a wee 'clutch chirp' and if what I hear sometimes after some 60-70mph cruising is the 'whine'? Then it is definitely quieter less noticeable than the old XJ series 'whistle'.

Following for interest on a Gen2.

Yeh that was a weird one, on the MT-01 they retained the right side drive, but it was a chain drive, no jack shaft. I guess for the belt they had to run it opposite side for enough room? That nut was also an issue on them as was the rear swingarm, it needed beefing up and was recalled on early ones. I would love to have found out if the Warrior ECU is identical to the MT's. There were 3 factory ECU's standard, stage 2 {non road} and stage 3 {racing} Stage 2 which I had changed the ignition curve slightly for better throttle response, richened the mixture, removed the O2 sensor and the Exup valve {yes they fitted that to the MT} and removed the 'horrible 'power bump' at 2750rpm. To get it through the Euro regs, for noise.. Those bazooka silencers were pretty loud for standard... they closed the exup valve which dropped the noise level considerably, but obviously dropped the power output too, but came back on song at 2750. I'd love to see if the MT ECU's could be fitted or the mapping transferred to the Warrior. With the kit you describe {patrick racing kit?} It'd be interesting to se how much more you'd get out of a Warrior... on the MT a stage 2 with gutted mufflers fitted with 2inch perf and wadding, open airbox, K&N and a fuel controller... lifted the top end by a bit over 10mph, acceleration was noticeably improved and torque was as well. Biggest improvement was actually the top gear roll on at 70mph onwards.

I've now got a 2005 Roadstar as an everyday bike. They are brilliant motors, I put 80k on the MT-01, what did go {only thing} was the starter/and solenoid resistor. Mind you it's a big motor and 'high compression'. Standard the 01 is about the same as the Patrick Racing tune up on the Warriors. It seems Yamaha in their 'wisdom'? decided the MT-01 wouldn't sell in the USA. There are a couple of Canadian guys who take theirs riding into the US, and everyone asks why the heck the US didn't get them.

I had the MT-01, hotted up version of that motor. The last one in Australia sold in 2016 and was a 2009. As far as I know {don't go onto the owners group now} it started up and was fine. Guy's mates had Ducati's so it isn't 'pussyfooted' as a ride. It's cheaper than the original price, and I know the MT-01 is starting to gain in value now, too late people realised they are a bloody good bike.

That's going to be hard to deal with, thoughts with you all.

Yeh, gotta love the world that's being created. We had/have an instance here in NZ {Auckland} where a venue called Western Springs was sued by neighbours to prevent excess noise etc, and they won. Beauty is? Their houses have been build around the venue over several years. The 'Springs used to be well away from residential properties. The 'here first' situation didn't mean a thing. Here in Wellington? I work in the Rail industry, and all of a sudden one of the local urban lines had complaints about 'whistle and wheel noise' from residents. {The line has only been there a hundred years}. The operating company has had to 'quieten' the loud horn by around 50%, and spent/still spending large sums on reducing 'wheel squeal'. The whole idea of a 'LOUD horn' is to MAKE people aware of an approaching train.

I don't know if others have run 'Ovals' on standard jetting, but as they are a lot more 'free flowing', and I fitted K&N's also, so I did the jet kit as a matter of course. I can start the bike with no choke at all 'non winter/cold' from cold, and certainly have plenty of low down pull.

Depends how far you want to go, I have V&H Monster ovals {LOUD} but a really nice 'rumble' with an Ivan's jet kit. {not my bike} -->

I think I have to agree on that pillow top seat. I've had a couple of what I considered comfortable bikes over a distance, but the 06 I purchased is really another league of comfort.

20+yr Lapsed G4 here, have actually been thinking of re-sitting recently for some strange reason.

Hi all, just curious at this stage as I am not needing new tires for Barney. However just had a set of these fitted to the XV1600 RoadStar. Has anyone had a set of the heavy duty B/cruise fitted to an RSV yet?? If so how did you find road performance and longevity?

Maybe we should try to make a 'list' of the 15 'actual' scariest bikes made?? I'll offer number one.. The kawasaki H1-500. Any of the early years {mach3 to H1-B} were scary power delivery, flexi frames, wobbly forks, bendable swingarms.. and as for cornering ability?? Definitely a serious underwear change bike if ridden hard

The longer I own this bike {RSV} and put miles on it, the more I am realising just how good they are. I'm buying doodackies to upgrade it, just because. Fitting the LED rear light and a smoke cover later today, because it has the 'clear' lens indicators and will match. I've got it bad lmao!! I have to accept it don't do bends like, and NZ does have a lot of twisty roads, but the comfort, stability, and feel of it far outweighs the slower road speeds at times. Build quality is excellent, as Yamaha always seems to do with 'flagship' bikes. I am enjoy my Roady 1600 as a daily rider, but every time I go out in the garage Barney is beckoning.

Stunning paint job Larry, and I can appreciate the amount of work involved doing the 'swap over'. The reasons for the colours and that 'ghost image' on the front fairing? Quite humbling to read. good on ya mate!

Likewise Larry, I don't take 'meds', but I will admit {and I am sure it helps} I take Glucosamine/chondritin and Tumeric, but also use Ginger and Cayenne pepper. When I stop I know my knees become more 'uncomfortable'

I've got arthritic knees and ankle, you make sending it to rhe shop sound worth the expense, WaaaaaaaH!!! good on you for doing it though!

Thoughts to everyone who was/is in Micheal's path. That is going to be a rough ride, and a massive clean up afterwards.

No fear of 'Barney' being neglected grubsie, the XV is a 'daily rider'. RSV is for distance and two up rides. I know the 1700 has more power, but as a commuter/solo the 1,6 is plenty adequate. You're right though, it's a great bike to ride. Barney is in the garage partly 'pampered' ans will get a little bit more next days off.

Well the XV1.6 is home today, much easier in traffic, lighter and performance seems pretty similar. May have a bit more down low, but once moving? Parked it next to Barney, kinda brings home just how BIG the Ventures are, {sorry it's a cell ph shot} No kids at home for me lol, and it's safe from little fingers of the 'womankind' She has her RTS Spyder.

I have a bad case of Yamabug. I've been riding Barney every day, I'd forgotten just how much I enjoyed the 'laid back' cruiser riding style. {my change to sport/tourers was driven by a need to get from A to B fast, in the event of} Problem is, I've been using Barney every day, commuting, which really it isn't designed for, on the excuse of 'checking everything is OK with a low km's bike' and when the CB1300 has been ridden, it's been a 'meh' event and I'm 'deliberately'? finding fault with the riding position, bent up legs, etc, etc. I'm going to need to re-arrange my garage, I think I found a cure, or, have I only exacerbated the condition? As of tomorrow I add my 'new' daily rider to live with Barney

I can understand your wife's annoyance now. I took my ex Vicki out on Barney yesterday for a ride round the loop. She's pillioned several bikes in my ownership in the last decade. Her comment was Barney is as, if not MORE comfortable, than the rear accommodation on her Spyder RTS. It's the first bike I've owned where even after 2 hours she was not asking for a coffee stop and she almost nodded off. Just my damned 'rock music' kept her awake