flyday58 Posted February 9, 2015 Author Share #51 Posted February 9, 2015 Came home to no spark. I don't know, folks. Guess I'll try pickup coils next. Somebody may be fixin' to get a Venture cheap... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted February 9, 2015 Share #52 Posted February 9, 2015 Came home to no spark. I don't know, folks. Guess I'll try pickup coils next. Somebody may be fixin' to get a Venture cheap... There is a connector between the pick-up coils and the TCI. Confirm that this connector is good. Check pick-up coil resistance at this connector and again at the TCI connector. There should be no variation in the two readings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share #53 Posted February 10, 2015 Thanks, hadn't tried that. But the readings are the same: 115.3, 115.3, 116.2, and 112.8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Share #54 Posted February 10, 2015 Opened up the motor and found a piece of metal across the #2 pickup coil. Could this cause the ignition to fail intermittently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted February 10, 2015 Share #55 Posted February 10, 2015 Definitely.....there needs to be a gap between pickup coil and spinning rotor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted February 10, 2015 Share #56 Posted February 10, 2015 Yup, that metal is in essence magnetically shorting out the pickup coil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share #57 Posted February 11, 2015 Man I hope this is it. Will put it back together tomorrow if I get the time and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted February 11, 2015 Share #58 Posted February 11, 2015 More important is WHERE did that piece of metal come from INSIDE of the motor. AND are there more pieces of metal wandering around inside of your motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share #59 Posted February 11, 2015 I'm hip. There was nothing in the oil when I changed it, not even small flakes or slivers of any kind. Got to change it again here in the next couple of days so I'll try to strain it to look for any other metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share #60 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Upon further inspection, found what looks like gold metal flake paint on the inside of the stator cover. It's flaking off and definitely magnetic. PO had painted the outside, plus some other parts. Guess he got a good bit of overspray on the inside of this. Who knows. Also found some phenolic chips from the stator floating around, very small pieces, so not worried about that. But this cover is definitely bodged, PO also overtorqued the stator screws, had to use my impact driver to get two most of the way out. So shopping for a cover now. Edited February 11, 2015 by flyday58 additional info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiCarl Posted February 11, 2015 Share #61 Posted February 11, 2015 Those stator screws have red loc-tite on them. You should use it when you put it together too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 11, 2015 Author Share #62 Posted February 11, 2015 Two of the heads were boogered up, one really bad, and its threads were stripped, too. So they've been out before. I'll use red loc-tite when i reassemble, got a cover coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted February 11, 2015 Share #63 Posted February 11, 2015 Since you bike is an 83 (or maybe 83.5) does the rotor bolt have a hole in center of head, and was there a washer with a lip on it in the center of the stator cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 12, 2015 Author Share #64 Posted February 12, 2015 Since you bike is an 83 (or maybe 83.5) does the rotor bolt have a hole in center of head, and was there a washer with a lip on it in the center of the stator cover? Yes, and yes. The hole in the bolt is a pinhole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share #65 Posted February 25, 2015 Well, the Ignitech is on its way back to the Czech Republic. There's an internal problem causing the ignition to shut down as the box warms up, I'm thinking a loose solder on one of the ground pins. I can apply pressure to the receptacle and get the bike to fire up, remove the pressure and it quits. Installed the replacement stator I got off ebuy. Started right up. Was installing fairing parts in prep for a test ride when it quit. ( Need a smilie for unremitting cursing riiiiight aboooout here). Went inside and had lunch. And cried. Almost. Came out 20 minutes later and it started. Now I'm back to the Ignitech so I went to pull it off the air cleaner where it's Velcroed and it quit. Hmm. I disassembled the harness plug and inspected the female connectors; the blue grounds were both loose on the male pins so I thought that was it. Alas, 'twas not to be. I did verify that, with either blue wire not connected the bike wouldn't fire. But after crimping the female pins so they were gripping the pins well and reassembling the plug, she quit on me about a half mile from the house. More foul words here.So that led to the applying pressure to the receptacle that allowed me to get the bike to run or quit depending on the pressure. Ignitech has a two year warranty so hopefully they will cover this, other than shipment to the Czech Republic. I bought a TCI on ebuy yesterday so I'll have a spare for troubleshooting and emergencies. :mo money: Good thing I know where the wife keeps the money tree. Made of plastic, for some reason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share #66 Posted February 28, 2015 Update bazillion and 2: pony'ed up some righteous Somalians for a Yamaha TCIasaurus off ebuy and got in a 90-mile ride today through Jackson and Harrison Counties in Ole Miss. Bike didn't miss a beat. Only two small issues: the speedo cable would intermittently start screeching fairly loudly, and seemed to use more gas than I woulda thunk. The speedo was steady the whole time, and the noise would go away below 40. Sometimes hitting a bump would make it stop, and if I wiggled the gauges it would change pitch. Pulled the innards and regreased; which way does it go, top down or bottom up? It was bottom up so I inserted it from the top, thinking maybe the drive was partially dropping out causing the screech. The fuel may not be an issue, i haven't ridden it far enough yet to tell how much mpg I'm getting. How many miles y'all average per tank? When the Ignitech gets back from the Czech Republic, this TCI will be my live spare. Thanks to all to offered insights on this one, misery loves company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted February 28, 2015 Share #67 Posted February 28, 2015 (edited) okay....what model is the eBay TCI and where is your vacuum signal for the pressure sensor connected? Edited February 28, 2015 by Neil86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted February 28, 2015 Share #68 Posted February 28, 2015 The speedo screech is not from the cable. It is a dry bearing in the speedo head. you need to stuff some grease up into the head. There was a member making an adapter that screwed onto where the cable goes into the speedo and had a grease zerk on it. I have one if you can get here. Some one closer may have one. Or just use patience and shove grease up there with your fingers. Riding with the screech will quickly destroy the speedo. Once that goes you will also lose the self canceling turn signals and the cruise control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share #69 Posted February 28, 2015 okay....what model is the eBay TCI and where is your vacuum signal for the pressure sensor connected? Neil, it's the standard 26H model Yamaha TCI, vacuum is hooked up as original, on the #2 carb intake joint. Paid way too much for the TCI but had to have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share #70 Posted February 28, 2015 The speedo screech is not from the cable. It is a dry bearing in the speedo head. you need to stuff some grease up into the head. There was a member making an adapter that screwed onto where the cable goes into the speedo and had a grease zerk on it. I have one if you can get here. Some one closer may have one. Or just use patience and shove grease up there with your fingers. Riding with the screech will quickly destroy the speedo. Once that goes you will also lose the self canceling turn signals and the cruise control. Thanks Jeff, I'll get on that now. Hmm, Cudahy. That's up near Jackson MS, right? Don't see it on guggle maps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venturous Randy Posted February 28, 2015 Share #71 Posted February 28, 2015 The speedo screech is not from the cable. It is a dry bearing in the speedo head. you need to stuff some grease up into the head. There was a member making an adapter that screwed onto where the cable goes into the speedo and had a grease zerk on it. I have one if you can get here. Some one closer may have one. Or just use patience and shove grease up there with your fingers. Riding with the screech will quickly destroy the speedo. Once that goes you will also lose the self canceling turn signals and the cruise control. This is what I did many years ago and has worked great. It is cheap and easy to do. Randy http://www.venturerider.org/forum/first-generation-venture-tech-talk/36254-lubing-speedo-1st-gen.html?highlight=Lubing+Speedo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueSky Posted February 28, 2015 Share #72 Posted February 28, 2015 There is a utube video about fixing a screeching speedometer on the Gen Is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted February 28, 2015 Share #73 Posted February 28, 2015 Thanks Jeff, I'll get on that now. Hmm, Cudahy. That's up near Jackson MS, right? Don't see it on guggle maps... Ummmmm...... Still a bit north of Jackson MS........ Try putting in zip code 53110....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyday58 Posted February 28, 2015 Author Share #74 Posted February 28, 2015 Aha. Didn't know you were in Canada. G'day, mate! (Couldn't find a smilie for "he thinks he's so dang funny but it ain't happenin'") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil86 Posted February 28, 2015 Share #75 Posted February 28, 2015 When you say #2 carb intake joint.....do you mean on the intake runner where the other 3 have caps...or a nozzle on the carb. Does your bike have a nozzle sticking out of the #2 carb body, thats where a 26H TCI system (with pressure sensor)needs to read vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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