Skid Posted October 31, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 31, 2009 My question is the two wires going to the old horn. Should they both show 12 volts at all times? I checked them with a light and both has 12 volts with the key on. And is this the two wires that goes to number 85 and 86 on the relay? Aslo I'm curious of where everyone placed their relays at.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiCarl Posted October 31, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 31, 2009 One should show +12V. The other should be grounded when you press the horn button. HOWEVER, if you still have the other horn connected they'll both show +12V unless you are blowing the horn. If both horns are unplugged only 1 should show +12V. You can get that relay at RadioShack. Tell them you need a 275-0001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks Carl. I just learned that there are two horns on the Second Gen. Remember I'm new to being a Second Gen owner so take it easy on me. OK do I just disconnect the front horn? And I got a relay with the horn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecdoo Posted October 31, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks Carl. I just learned that there are two horns on the Second Gen. Remember I'm new to being a Second Gen owner so take it easy on me. OK do I just disconnect the front horn? And I got a relay with the horn. I just left the front horn connected, you wont hear it when you hit the stebil:yikes: I wire tied the relay under the rite side cover on the battery box. I had it off hooking up the horn and it fit there pretty nice. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #5 Posted October 31, 2009 But will I need to temporarily disconnect the front horn to determine which wire is the positive and which is ground at the stebel horn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hig4s Posted October 31, 2009 Share #6 Posted October 31, 2009 One should show +12V. The other should be grounded when you press the horn button. HOWEVER, if you still have the other horn connected they'll both show +12V unless you are blowing the horn. So what he is saying is if you bend down measure it while someone else pushes the horn button one will show +12V and one will show 0V. And a week later you will be able to hear again.!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecdoo Posted October 31, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 31, 2009 But will I need to temporarily disconnect the front horn to determine which wire is the positive and which is ground at the stebel horn? Nope, I didnt. I just followed the guide for wiring up the relay. Pink horn wire to post 85 brown horn wire to post 86 Post 30 to + side of horn 20 amp fused from batt to post 87 ground side of horn to engine ground Courtesy or SaltyDawg:bowdown: Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecdoo Posted October 31, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 31, 2009 If ya want to stay on Leslies good side ,dont hit the horn button if the Baby is sleeping, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes0778 Posted October 31, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 31, 2009 Skid, This schematic doesn't show the "other" horn, or the wire colors, but does show the relay (that should have come with the horn) connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted October 31, 2009 Thanks Craig, I'll remember that. I'll finish my horn project in the morning. Thanks guys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiCarl Posted October 31, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 31, 2009 I didn't know a 2nd gen had 2 horns either. I thought you were working on a 1st gen. As hinted, it doesn't matter which of 85, 86 gets the + and -, it works either way. It's possible your diagram indicates one or the other but it's irrelevant. You can leave the original horn(s) attached. More is gooder. My wiring diagram attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted October 31, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 31, 2009 Yah! I put my relay in the battery area on the plastic shield in the back. Just drilled a pilot hole and fastened with a sheet metal screw. I extended the horn wires, and no, it doesn't matter which wire goes on which lug. I then hooked up a 14 gauge red lead from the battery to the relay, and "Tested" the relay by hitting the horn. You should have seen my lok of bewilderment when the other fairing horn beeped, and I'm looking at both the stock horn AND the Stebel laying on the bench!! All I expected was for the relay to click! Anyway. wired the red lead down to the horn area and a black ground 14 gauge wire from the battery to complete the circuit, McGuivered an aluminum bracket to mount the horn, and the rest is history... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted October 31, 2009 Share #13 Posted October 31, 2009 Check my thread for some pics of my Stebel install... [ame=http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=41530]Stebel Nautilus Horn Install - VentureRider.Org[/ame] Also, (not shown in the pic) here's a pic of where I installed the relay... I just zap-strapped it on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted October 31, 2009 OK, I appreciate everyone's help. I goit it finished this morning and it works! I placed the relay on the bolt under the anti-freeze over-flow box looks like the same place as SilvrT . Here are some pics... PS: And yes it is LOUD! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEER30 Posted October 31, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 31, 2009 PS: And yes it is LOUD! Sure it's loud , but mostly on the right side . I mounted my Stebel under the scoot , behind the lowers , right beside the oil filter . Sound comes out evenly on both sides of the scoot . And I still have the stock horns going toot-toot as well . BEER30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted October 31, 2009 Share #16 Posted October 31, 2009 Sure it's loud , but mostly on the right side . I mounted my Stebel under the scoot , behind the lowers , right beside the oil filter . Sound comes out evenly on both sides of the scoot . And I still have the stock horns going toot-toot as well . BEER30 yeah but.... then all the sound is UNDER the scoot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crash Posted October 31, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 31, 2009 Does anyone know if the stebel horn can be installed on a car by just splicing into the existing horn wires? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilvrT Posted October 31, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 31, 2009 Does anyone know if the stebel horn can be installed on a car by just splicing into the existing horn wires? I spliced into my stock horn wires... don't see why it wouldn't work on a car ... same system basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEER30 Posted October 31, 2009 Share #19 Posted October 31, 2009 yeah but.... then all the sound is UNDER the scoot... But still loud enough to scare the crap out of the HD guys with Vance & Hines pipes when I pull up behind them . BEER30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cecdoo Posted October 31, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 31, 2009 OK, I appreciate everyone's help. I goit it finished this morning and it works! I placed the relay on the bolt under the anti-freeze over-flow box looks like the same place as SilvrT . Here are some pics... PS: And yes it is LOUD! Hey Skid, there is a chrome cap on the back of the horn, you can take it off you dont see it anyway, then put some clear silicone on it and put it on top of the unit to cover that silver area, I know you like shiney!! Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hig4s Posted October 31, 2009 Share #21 Posted October 31, 2009 Hey Skid, there is a chrome cap on the back of the horn, you can take it off you dont see it anyway, then put some clear silicone on it and put it on top of the unit to cover that silver area, I know you like shiney!! Craig That is what I did!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skid Posted October 31, 2009 Author Share #22 Posted October 31, 2009 Hey Skid, there is a chrome cap on the back of the horn, you can take it off you dont see it anyway, then put some clear silicone on it and put it on top of the unit to cover that silver area, I know you like shiney!! Craig Thanks Craig. I'll have to take it off to get to it, but I will look at that. I was wondering about the silver top on the chrome horn, just didn't look right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bongobobny Posted October 31, 2009 Share #23 Posted October 31, 2009 Does anyone know if the stebel horn can be installed on a car by just splicing into the existing horn wires? Yes, as long as you know which is the + and - lines. Cars usually have a horn relay so you should be good to go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlh3rd Posted October 31, 2009 Share #24 Posted October 31, 2009 crash i just put one on my 08 silverado........i just piggy backed two wires into the stock horn wires and run those to the new stebel horn.........you do not need to know which wire is the feed.....if you hook up the new horn and it runs but doesn't honk...then you just reverse the wires...which is exactly what the instructions tell you do do.................................and then you get to stop people from trying to cut you off when merging....it did get their attention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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