Mikealiasmike Posted June 27, 2014 Share #1 Posted June 27, 2014 The exact same thing happened last night that happened 2 years ago. This time during a storm and with teenage son along on his bike. Last time it was a vapor lock This time not so sure. Driving along no problems then acted like it was running out of gas, felt like running on 2 cylinders. Then died. Tried turning it over and not even a sputter. Towed it home and tried starting it this morning and fuel pump does not click at all. Going to try a new fuel pump (OEM is 240.00) thinking about the Mr. Gasket 42's mod but the reviews on that pump are frigid at best. Suggestions? Anybody know what the PSI is? Carters pump is 120.00 and 4 PSI. Any help would be appreciated. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikealiasmike Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share #2 Posted June 27, 2014 Would this possibly work with a few mods? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/crt-p60504/overview/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steamer Posted June 27, 2014 Share #3 Posted June 27, 2014 The exact same thing happened last night that happened 2 years ago. This time during a storm and with teenage son along on his bike. Last time it was a vapor lock This time not so sure. Driving along no problems then acted like it was running out of gas, felt like running on 2 cylinders. Then died. Tried turning it over and not even a sputter. Towed it home and tried starting it this morning and fuel pump does not click at all. Going to try a new fuel pump (OEM is 240.00) thinking about the Mr. Gasket 42's mod but the reviews on that pump are frigid at best. Suggestions? Anybody know what the PSI is? Carters pump is 120.00 and 4 PSI. Any help would be appreciated. Mike Try bypassing the pump first, see if it will runs. If it does then you know for sure it's the pump. The pump will not click if the carb bowls are full. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasrices Posted June 27, 2014 Share #4 Posted June 27, 2014 I have had the Mr Gasket for over a year with absolutely no problems. Note that when you turn on the key you will not hear the clicking. Instead you will only hear a little hum. It will not fit directly in place of the oem pump. Mine is just laying in the space where the pump goes. Again, zero problems from this pump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted June 27, 2014 Share #5 Posted June 27, 2014 SO Harleys are no worse that Yamahas is what you are :whistling:saying right. Man wait till Freebird see's this thread with all the razzing he has been getting... You better run out and get a fresh box of Band-aids cause your going to need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike G in SC Posted June 27, 2014 Share #6 Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah, as noted try the gravity feed first. I ran that way for about a week while pump was on order. Just keep your tank over half full or you may not have pressure. Also, look on this site for a post or two about replacing just the contacts in the stock pump. Sounds like a few have done that successfully for more like $50. Then, it is still stock and you don't need to worry about the petcock. I read on this forum that with the Mr.Gasket, you have to turn off the petcock every time you shut the bike off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRider Posted June 27, 2014 Share #7 Posted June 27, 2014 The exact same thing happened last night that happened 2 years ago. This time during a storm and with teenage son along on his bike. Last time it was a vapor lock This time not so sure. Driving along no problems then acted like it was running out of gas, felt like running on 2 cylinders. Then died. Tried turning it over and not even a sputter. Towed it home and tried starting it this morning and fuel pump does not click at all. Going to try a new fuel pump (OEM is 240.00) thinking about the Mr. Gasket 42's mod but the reviews on that pump are frigid at best. Suggestions? Anybody know what the PSI is? Carters pump is 120.00 and 4 PSI. Any help would be appreciated. Mike Mike, If you bypass and find it is your fuel pump, take the back off the pump and look at the contacts. You may be able to clean them up and save the pump. Or....Somewhere on here is a link to replacement contacts for the OEM fuel pump. That is what goes out on them. After July 12th, I have an extra pump you can use until yours is fixed/replaced. Unfortunately, I need it until then (multiday LD rally coming up and it is my spare). RR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarges46 Posted June 27, 2014 Share #8 Posted June 27, 2014 Mike I currently have a Mr gasket on my bike.It works ok but I have to remember to turn the gas off when stopped. There is another model that prevents this. Yes you need a pump around 3. 5 pounds pressure.they are around 50 bucks. Check the tech write up from goose. He lists all the different types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikealiasmike Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted June 27, 2014 (edited) Just tore it all apart. Still wouldn't run bypassing pump. Pump was running (Had to see if it would before I disconnected power) I do believe it's another case of vapor lock. Once I reconnected everything I could see fuel going through filter. Vapor lock must've freed up, it started. This make #4 times this has happened. Seriously considering selling my Mistress. Edited June 27, 2014 by Mikealiasmike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarges46 Posted June 27, 2014 Share #10 Posted June 27, 2014 Correction my pump is a Facet. Look second gen tech. Parts alternative. Great resource by VGoose. I can't post a link as I am sending this by phone and am clueless how to link stuff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikealiasmike Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted June 27, 2014 I had this thread up when I went outside and hadn't looked for updates before posting my results. I want to thank everyone who responded. This home is GREAT. Even with that Rick (Sarge) guy. Love ya bro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarges46 Posted June 27, 2014 Share #12 Posted June 27, 2014 Yeah yeah! The stock fuel pump has been known to work when cold then when it heats up quits. Hope you get it figured out my friend. I mean you old coot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaniel Posted June 27, 2014 Share #13 Posted June 27, 2014 If you open the gas cap do you hear a suction noise? Check the vent for the fuel tank and the roll over valve as they will stick sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Money Venture Posted June 27, 2014 Share #14 Posted June 27, 2014 Also, if you get water in the fuel, the fuel filters can sometimes stop up as the water is to "thick" to go through the filter. YMMV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikealiasmike Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted June 27, 2014 If you open the gas cap do you hear a suction noise? Check the vent for the fuel tank and the roll over valve as they will stick sometimes. no suction noise when gas tank opened and as for "roll over valve" where can/do I check that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speakerfritz Posted June 27, 2014 Share #16 Posted June 27, 2014 drain the gas and float bowls......you may have water in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikealiasmike Posted June 27, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted June 27, 2014 Fired right up after I disconnected all the fuel lines and released vapor lock. Thought about that too but coincidentally I had dropped in some sea foam in that very tank so should have removed any water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eusa1 Posted June 27, 2014 Share #18 Posted June 27, 2014 fix your vent tube pinched or blocked and you won't have any more vapor lock. mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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