Cougar Posted May 16, 2014 Share #1 Posted May 16, 2014 The last month or so I have noticed a slight front end shake/vib at 70 mph. Yes, I checked the tree for the proper adjustments and all was good there. Then I got to thinking my tire was never high speed balanced from what I found out at the Honda dealer that I took I to. So anyways I removed the tire and took the Ride-On out of it, put the tire back on and this is my results on how much the weights are. would this cause this kind of problem I am having? Notice the wheel weights to the left. I have found a shop that does high speed balance as well. I also ordered a Marc Parnes wheel balancer. boy is this a nice balancer very high grade stuff he uses in his product. much better then the bent rod harbor fright ones I was looking at. ANYWAYS! Take a look at these photos and tell me if this would cause the sight vib. at 70 mph . oh the wheel bearings are good as well. [ATTACH]84299[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]84300[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]84301[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted May 16, 2014 Share #2 Posted May 16, 2014 How did your required balance weights compare to the ones that were done "professionally"? How many ounces did it take to balance statically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share #3 Posted May 16, 2014 I left the old weight on the wheel. then rechecked it. and the pictures show the results. I have not had it re-balanced yet. I needed to know how far off it was. or if any at all. Tomorrow I will experiment more with how much was is on there and see how much I remove. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted May 16, 2014 Share #4 Posted May 16, 2014 You are saying that the three successive pics were taken after spinning the wheel each time? And it ALWAYS ended up with weights at ten o'clock? Doesn't seem very balanced then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted May 16, 2014 Correct,I should be able to stop it and it stays . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMW Posted May 16, 2014 Share #6 Posted May 16, 2014 When spund it should hardly ever stop in the same place. When you remounted tire did you line up dot with valve stem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted May 16, 2014 There is no dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 16, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted May 16, 2014 I am posting this , cuz I have had a shimmy at 70 mph and this is what I found. I just wanted to know if you think that caused it. The tire will be rebalanced soon. This is what I found after a dealer mounted and balanced the tire. ( not good ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted May 17, 2014 Had to move the original weights over to the next spoke and add 10 more grams. now to see if this is the fix :-) . [ATTACH]84309[/ATTACH] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prairiehammer Posted May 17, 2014 Share #10 Posted May 17, 2014 Had to move the original weights over to the next spoke and add 10 more grams. now to see if this is the fix :-) . [ATTACH]84309[/ATTACH] Seems like a lot of weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billmac Posted May 17, 2014 Share #11 Posted May 17, 2014 kinda smells like the person who mounted it didn't know or forgot about the dot and valve stem. you did also check the air in the front shocks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted May 17, 2014 Font shock air is perfect and I see NO DOT on the tire. looked on both sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billmac Posted May 17, 2014 Share #13 Posted May 17, 2014 usually the dot gets washed off when they clean the tire after mounting. it's just a temp mark on a new tire for mounting. Just had new tires mounted and I saw the dots and they were gone when he wiped the tire off after he was done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted May 17, 2014 From what I am seeing online searching the Mich II's do not have a dot anymore. not sure why. but thanks for the info. So anyways if there was one it is gone now . This is got me thinking that in the future I will be doing all this myself. I just can not believe how far off a dealer was when they did this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikenut Posted May 17, 2014 Share #15 Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) What brand is the tire. Some have a dot and some have a white tag on the bead of the tire. Mich 'll have a tag on the bead but can not see it unless you pop the bead and look for it. The wheel will cover it up Edited May 17, 2014 by bikenut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted May 17, 2014 Michelin Commander 2's from still reading on-line ,they have not had a DOT since 2006 on there tires. I might have seen the bar code your talking about. I will look on another one I have , thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted May 17, 2014 So we take the bar code and place it at the stem correct ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikenut Posted May 17, 2014 Share #18 Posted May 17, 2014 Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #19 Posted May 17, 2014 OK, I will run the tire down now and have it done right then check balance and report back. thanks !!! you guys rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billmac Posted May 17, 2014 Share #20 Posted May 17, 2014 weird, both the front and rear had a white dot on my commander ll's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #21 Posted May 17, 2014 OK guys, there was a barcode on the inside lip and it was at the opposite end of all those weights. Now to see how much it will take, looking so far like maybe 5 grams. will be back in a few. made all the diff in the world !!!! THANKS ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #22 Posted May 17, 2014 OK, I went from 60 grams down to 30 grams of wheel weight. I think now I am on the right track. [ATTACH]84315[/ATTACH] Again , THANKS ! Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydoc_17 Posted May 17, 2014 Share #23 Posted May 17, 2014 Hey Cougar, You mentioned that you may be doing this for yourself in the future. DOT or not, If I were putting more than 20 grams on a tire of mine, I would debead and rotate the tire 45 degrees on the rim until I found the best location as far as balance is concerned. I am currently running 10 grams on my front tire, (Dunlop E3's) and 15 grams on the rear tire. It takes some extra time, but if you will soon have the equipment to make these adjustments yourself, it is worth it. I personally would not take a tire from a dealer that had 60 grams of weight on it! I would be taking the mechanic to "school" though! Just an FYI. Earl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #24 Posted May 17, 2014 Thanks EARL yes, I was reading more into that like you said and if I had the rest if the equipment I would do just as you said , keep moving it to almost the point of no weight at all ! I just can not believe this mechanic did it this way . live and learn I guess. learned lots the past two days though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar Posted May 17, 2014 Author Share #25 Posted May 17, 2014 weird, both the front and rear had a white dot on my commander ll's Yes maybe, I am also betting it got washed off on the first mount. at lest the barcode was in there still. Thanks! Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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