Guest scarylarry Posted February 17, 2010 Share #1 Posted February 17, 2010 I read that this filter WIX 51358 is not recommend for our bikes and I slap one on mine when the part cross reference it.. I found out about this after the fact Now do I swap filters now or wait till next oil change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrcain32 Posted February 17, 2010 Share #2 Posted February 17, 2010 This is the first I've heard about not using this filter. I have been using it for the last 3 oil changes. What's the problem with it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scarylarry Posted February 17, 2010 Share #3 Posted February 17, 2010 http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterXRef.html In this link close to the bottom you find the filter as not recommended, though wix site shows it as a the filter to use, I was wondering if the by pass is wrong some how Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted February 17, 2010 Share #4 Posted February 17, 2010 Weird, I currently use the Fram PH6017A and it is not recommended either and in his beginning paragraph he states that for motorcycles a Fram is as good as any. Go figure. My question would be who is it that recommends we not use these filters. It's certainly the one listed for our bikes in the Fram guide. Oh well, I'm still under warranty for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scarylarry Posted February 17, 2010 Share #5 Posted February 17, 2010 Do like me and keep a yammy filter on the shelf in case u need to slap it on.. I thought your warranty was good for 90 days or 90 miles which ever came first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted February 17, 2010 Share #6 Posted February 17, 2010 Do like me and keep a yammy filter on the shelf in case u need to slap it on.. I thought your warranty was good for 90 days or 90 miles which ever came first Ha Ha, I got the extended 180 day unlimited mileage warranty. I also suspect that if you use dino oil and change it regularly every 3k you really don't even need a filter. Some years ago an oil filter was an add on option for automobiles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiteSquid Posted February 17, 2010 Share #7 Posted February 17, 2010 I'd use it. Wix's web site for this filter is HERE click on the all applications link...... http://www.wixconnect.com/images/filters/3706_1.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scarylarry Posted February 17, 2010 Share #8 Posted February 17, 2010 I went to the website as well and saw that, but like wanderer how did they come up with this...Back pressure, low flow who knows... Wanderer are ya going to freebird M.D.? If so you can follow the group out of Tennessee we promise not to get out of 2nd gear:rotfl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted February 17, 2010 Share #9 Posted February 17, 2010 I went to the website as well and saw that, but like wanderer how did they come up with this...Back pressure, low flow who knows... Wanderer are ya going to freebird M.D.? If so you can follow the group out of Tennessee we promise not to get out of 2nd gear:rotfl: Certainly planning on it. I've been getting inquiries from corporate for a new or updated clearance so I think I'll soon be reassigned. To where, I don't know yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pecker Posted February 17, 2010 Share #10 Posted February 17, 2010 I think the reason these two filters are not recommended is because of their overall poor quality in materials. The couple of filters that are recommended are built better and with better stuff. Now having said that, if you are pretty religious about changing your oil (every3K to 4K), using a cheaper built filter should not be a problem. Dave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1BigDog Posted February 17, 2010 Share #11 Posted February 17, 2010 Problem with the Fram Filter was extremely poor construction. Wal-mart SuperTec filters are built better than the Fram. Seems that the innards of the Fram are cardboard like. Years ago, Pudge, a member of the Venturers site dissected a bunch of filters and discovered that the WalMart was pretty good and the fram was garbage. Fram used to be the best until SignalDynamics took them over. I bought up all the Walmart filters on the shelf back then for 2.10 apiece and still have 4 left over. Just my 2 cents...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderer Posted February 17, 2010 Share #12 Posted February 17, 2010 I think the reason these two filters are not recommended is because of their overall poor quality in materials. The couple of filters that are recommended are built better and with better stuff. Now having said that, if you are pretty religious about changing your oil (every3K to 4K), using a cheaper built filter should not be a problem. Dave yepper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest scarylarry Posted February 17, 2010 Share #13 Posted February 17, 2010 I use a conventoinal motorcycle oil so every 3k and no more than 4k per oil change, I might swap filters after this change, might be a good insurance... Wix filters are ab $11.00 so there is nothing there but price and was cheaper than yammy filters.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes0778 Posted February 17, 2010 Share #14 Posted February 17, 2010 Throw this in the mix... :stirthepot: http://www.calsci.com/motorcycleinfo/FilterStudy.html Also, do a VR site search on "PureOne", Lots of good info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoyinMS Posted February 17, 2010 Share #15 Posted February 17, 2010 99% of the time WIX is as good or better than any OEM filter but I guess they are like all the other filter companies in having to outsource a few of their filters to have full coverage. If I can find the SuperTec in my Wally World I think I'm going to start using them. I used to like the Nissan car filters but it seems that they are sourcing some these days from a low quality supplier... Honeywell/Fram maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Posted February 18, 2010 Share #16 Posted February 18, 2010 I use to use Fram oil filters and never had any kind of problems with them. However since joining this website I've learned (or hope I've learned) a little bit more about the way different filters are made. Since I bought my 09 last summer I've quit using Fram. Not for any other reason than several websites stating that they were of poor quality. I used a couple of PureOne's, but now I'm currently using the SuperTech from Walmart. Just because it's conveniently right there where I buy my oil and most of the websites say that it's one of the better quality filters. Probaly nothing that bad wrong with the Fram, I 'm just going on the opinion of some of the more "experienced" on this website. Don't let me down guys!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1BigDog Posted February 18, 2010 Share #17 Posted February 18, 2010 I use to use Fram oil filters and never had any kind of problems with them. However since joining this website I've learned (or hope I've learned) a little bit more about the way different filters are made. Since I bought my 09 last summer I've quit using Fram. Not for any other reason than several websites stating that they were of poor quality. I used a couple of PureOne's, but now I'm currently using the SuperTech from Walmart. Just because it's conveniently right there where I buy my oil and most of the websites say that it's one of the better quality filters. Probaly nothing that bad wrong with the Fram, I 'm just going on the opinion of some of the more "experienced" on this website. Don't let me down guys!!! Ive been using the WalMart filters since 2004 with no issues and you cant beat the price. Cut them open and they are pretty similar to other quality filters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamaman Posted March 26, 2010 Share #18 Posted March 26, 2010 I use to use Fram oil filters and never had any kind of problems with them. However since joining this website I've learned (or hope I've learned) a little bit more about the way different filters are made. Since I bought my 09 last summer I've quit using Fram. Not for any other reason than several websites stating that they were of poor quality. I used a couple of PureOne's, but now I'm currently using the SuperTech from Walmart. Just because it's conveniently right there where I buy my oil and most of the websites say that it's one of the better quality filters. Probaly nothing that bad wrong with the Fram, I 'm just going on the opinion of some of the more "experienced" on this website. Don't let me down guys!!! Can anybody provide the part number for the Walmart SuperTech filter? It's not listed on the cross reference guide in the Tech Library. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoyinMS Posted March 26, 2010 Share #19 Posted March 26, 2010 Long one is ST7317 Shorter one is ST6607 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamaman Posted March 26, 2010 Share #20 Posted March 26, 2010 Long one is ST7317 Shorter one is ST6607 Thanks! Other than the obvious, what's the difference? In other words, under what circumstances might I prefer one over the other? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddy Posted March 26, 2010 Share #21 Posted March 26, 2010 I use the ST7317 long filter so far I been very pleased with it. I have cut several open after each oil change so far everything inside held up really good, unlike fram which seems to split and fall apart over time... I used Wix 51358 & napa 1358 filter which are both the same filter just different labeling,good filter never had any problems using it on my cycles . But I stayed with ST7317 filter just as good and half the price too. cant beat that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamue Posted March 26, 2010 Share #22 Posted March 26, 2010 I use the ST7317 long filter so far I been very pleased with it. I have cut several open after each oil change so far everything inside held up really good, unlike fram which seems to split and fall apart over time... I used Wix 51358 & napa 1358 filter which are both the same filter just different labeling,good filter never had any problems using it on my cycles . But I stayed with ST7317 filter just as good and half the price too. cant beat that.. I've been using, NAPA GOLD, CARQUEST BLUE, and WIX filters for years on everything I own. Motorcycles, Cars, Trucks, Heavy Equipment, Tractors, Compressors, Mowers, Hydraulics, you name it. Never had any problems with these as they are all made by Wix. It's all about being confortable with what I use if I'm not using the manufacture's filter. While under warranty I use what is recommended by the MFG, after that it's up to me. AS often as most of change oil we should never have an oil filter problem, I still remember using a roll of toilet paper as the filter for a 50 Chev. pickup. Thanks, Shamue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigBoyinMS Posted March 26, 2010 Share #23 Posted March 26, 2010 I still remember using a roll of toilet paper as the filter for a 50 Chev. pickup. Thanks, Shamue They still sell those! Frantz Oil Filter http://www.frantzoil.com/i/Frantz/tn_PolishedCannisterKit.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Primebeef Posted April 8, 2012 Share #24 Posted April 8, 2012 Here is an article that examines oil filters, I found it to be very helpful in determining which filter I use on my bike. I use a HiFlo 303 filter and haven't had any problems. I buy my filters from PowerSports Superstore and the last batch was $4.95 ea plus shipping. http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/index.shtml Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvester Posted April 8, 2012 Share #25 Posted April 8, 2012 More horse hockey. I have used Wix/NAPA filters in my 02 RSMV for 140k miles and I will continue to use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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