OK, I found a 88 venture royale for sale, good engine be t sitting for years to quote the seller. Drove 3 hours and it would not start. Bike was complete wit 20,000 miles. It was a good solid bike with all plastic intac with no cracks. So I bought it for $350.00 and brought it home for a donor bike, since I need an engine. Got it running after rebuilding carbs, sounds good, but too good to strip. So now I have 3 complete ventures and still need an engine. I have decided to rebuild the existing engine with new case halves.