ediddy Posted July 17, 2008 Share #1 Posted July 17, 2008 I have been hearing speculation that the 09 harleys may have a water cooled enigne in the road king or ultra classic. Anyone heard anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreezyRider Posted July 17, 2008 Share #2 Posted July 17, 2008 Rumors MAY be true....I have heard that in order to meet new federal emissions specs for 2010, most large mc engines will need to be water cooled. Wonder if that is fact or just rumor..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dandy1 Posted July 17, 2008 Share #3 Posted July 17, 2008 I hope its true. That is what I have been waiting for to own my first Harley. Ride Safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emack Posted July 17, 2008 Share #4 Posted July 17, 2008 Water cooled huh?... I'm not so sure I like that as it adds more weight to a bike and it's one more system that can fail. I'm currently toying with trading in my 06 RSTD for a Dyna... I'll ask the sales people if water cooled is in the future. Over heating in New England isn't a big issue, in fact I welcome engine heat most the riding season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyHorse Posted July 17, 2008 Share #5 Posted July 17, 2008 I've heard this too. Like using the VROD motor on a Ultra Glide. I think its only a matter of time. Thats a pretty nice motor a friend of mine had a Vrod boy that thing was quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ediddy Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share #6 Posted July 17, 2008 We will know next week as the 09s will be out then. I was on the harley tech talk site a few minutes ago and one person said this: I've got all the scoop from a firend who is top engineer with the MoCo but I'm sworn to secrecy. You will be amazed at the direction the MoCo is going in 09 which is just a stepping stone for 10 and 11 when the bulk of the changes will take effect. The MoCo as we know it will not be the same. Some will see this a huge improvement and others, especially the old-schoolers, will likely shun HD forever. Harley bought out a european motorcycle company that makes some 190hp engines (liquid cooled). Maybe they will stab one those 4 cylinders into a bagger and call it a Road Rage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bummer Posted July 17, 2008 Share #7 Posted July 17, 2008 Hmmm. The new Buell 1125R uses a Rotax engine. I wonder if that's who they bought. (Road Rage - now that's funny.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBJ Posted July 17, 2008 Share #8 Posted July 17, 2008 Last year a guy out in New Mexico clicked some pix of a water cooled sporty. It looked like a cross beteween an XL racer and a V-Rod. But the talk has been for three years now that Harley will have to incorporate the V-rod engine into the Glide bikes and others to meet Euro 3 standards for engine noise. But it could be an all new engine as well. Harley has produced close to a dozen new engines in just the last 10 years if you include the Buell thunderstorms and the new Euro XL1200 motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsonrl Posted July 17, 2008 Share #9 Posted July 17, 2008 Well, we will know on the 22nd. Harley announces the 2009s then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ediddy Posted July 17, 2008 Author Share #10 Posted July 17, 2008 The company harley bought is MV Augusta. I've never head of this company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Terror Posted July 17, 2008 Share #11 Posted July 17, 2008 I suppose this is no secret. I have been looking at ordering a 09 Harley Ultra Firefighter edition. My bigest concern has been the hot rear cylinder thing. I was in Ct last weekend talking to the sales woman about ordering one and plan to test ride an Ultra there next week. Not sure how I feel about the water cool thing but it sounds cool as long as it dont send the price event higher through the roof. I sold my Honda on Ebay yesterday so that is the downpayment to order. Being a betting man I dont think you will see this unless they create a new model so they can test bed it with the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyHorse Posted July 17, 2008 Share #12 Posted July 17, 2008 The new HD 103 motors get hot quick especially slow speeds they start to bog I used to like them now I'm not sure. I'm not sure about the 96 cube. Liquid cooling be a step in the right direction. I wonder what BMW will do with thier LT. My buddies LT only 1200 cc gets in the 40's mpg wise. I'm not sure I want a bigger motor out of Yamaha maybe just Fuel injection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted July 17, 2008 Share #13 Posted July 17, 2008 I suppose this is no secret. I have been looking at ordering a 09 Harley Ultra Firefighter edition. My bigest concern has been the hot rear cylinder thing. I was in Ct last weekend talking to the sales woman about ordering one and plan to test ride an Ultra there next week. Not sure how I feel about the water cool thing but it sounds cool as long as it dont send the price event higher through the roof. I sold my Honda on Ebay yesterday so that is the downpayment to order. Being a betting man I dont think you will see this unless they create a new model so they can test bed it with the public. Scott,Here in New Braunfels TX I thought about an Ultra hard..The salesperson let me take an 07 for the day as he thought he had a sale which he would have until the day I took it out....while it was a very nice bike,rode great handled superbly let me tell you the heat issue is a REAL problem! I could handle the power issue,torquey,but not anything like the RSV on power,but really I am not sure about your riding weather up there but here in Texas I cant handle that heat it puts out...If it were not for that I would have bought it. Just my Opinion..Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tartan Terror Posted July 17, 2008 Share #14 Posted July 17, 2008 Scott,Here in New Braunfels TX I thought about an Ultra hard..The salesperson let me take an 07 for the day as he thought he had a sale which he would have until the day I took it out....while it was a very nice bike,rode great handled superbly let me tell you the heat issue is a REAL problem! I could handle the power issue,torquey,but not anything like the RSV on power,but really I am not sure about your riding weather up there but here in Texas I cant handle that heat it puts out...If it were not for that I would have bought it. Just my Opinion..Tom Exactly why I want to try it and not just buy a pretty bike. There are a few ways to reduce the problem but I wont know how it fits me or how much of a problem it is until I ride the beast for a while. Think mostly Im looking for a change and a new slate to mod. Done everything to this one I can already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbitybob Posted July 17, 2008 Share #15 Posted July 17, 2008 The sad part about the HD's is that the bike is not that great "out of the box". If you spend that much money it really should work better than it does. I have TC88 Ultra Classic and ride with guys with new ones. They are 'burn your leg' hot & until you spend money on a fuel management system and a hi flo air filter you are not going to cool them down. Even on my 2000 Ultra until I put a power commander on it, it was way too hot. Don't get me wrong I like the Ultra but it isn't the perfect bike that some die hard Harley guys want you to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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