MasterGuns Posted May 25, 2015 Share #1 Posted May 25, 2015 A good friend of mine owns an 83 Venture. As most of us with 1st editions, he has a real problem starting his 83 when it is hot. Hell, it does not turn over very well when cold. So today I purchased a starter for him from an 09 Yamaha venture royal star. It is of course a four brush unit and is much newer. I've read here that tthis starter will fit his 83. Is this correct. I plan to upgrade his battery cables to the, and again, please correct me if I am wrong, 8 guage cables. We will have to make our own since I do not see where anyone is fabricating battery cables anymore. However, if anyone has a set of the upgraded cables and is willing to part with them, please let me know. I'll gladly pay to take them off your hands. Semper Fi Herb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted May 25, 2015 Share #2 Posted May 25, 2015 Another great thing is AGM battery. So much more cranking power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverado6x6 Posted May 25, 2015 Share #3 Posted May 25, 2015 My 85 Vmax has similar problems, i added an additional 6 gauge wire from the starter mount bolt back to the negative terminal of the Odyssey PC680 battery. But i kept the two pole starter but did an improved ground internally, works every time now, hot or cold. I soldered the tangs on the brush plate to give more contact area. Filed them flat but higher than original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose68 Posted May 25, 2015 Share #4 Posted May 25, 2015 Yes it will fit and check with Dingy about the cables that is who I bought mine from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyinfool Posted May 25, 2015 Share #5 Posted May 25, 2015 Yes it will fit and check with Dingy about the cables that is who I bought mine from. Dingy was making the cables out of 4 AWG Welding wire. That alone helps a lot. The 4 brush starter alone helps a lot. Together they are great. As for the battery, I also put an AGM battery in my bike and it did crank faster, and it died after just 18 months. I'm going back to an Yuasa, they always last me 5 or 6 years and get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eck Posted May 25, 2015 Share #6 Posted May 25, 2015 Wish I was there just to watch and learn....and maybe hand you a wrench or two.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted May 25, 2015 Share #7 Posted May 25, 2015 Wish I was there just to watch and learn....and maybe hand you a wrench or two.. It would probally be the WRONG wrench!! Wish you were going to be there!!! We will miss ya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonwolf Posted May 25, 2015 Share #8 Posted May 25, 2015 The 4 brush starter will spin your motor fast and for a long time even if your battery is just OK after years of fighting this I was amazed. I just bought the upgraded Battery cables from Dingy last month he might still have some they were well made and soft bendable cable so they were easy to install Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patmac6075 Posted May 25, 2015 Share #9 Posted May 25, 2015 I bought my cables from Dingy as well.....excellent fit and very well made! This is my observation....for my situation cable install could not have been easier, because I had all the plastics off the bike at the time. It made following wire paths and snipping cable ties super easy. The second thing is, before I purchased my AMG battery I was using jumper cables attached to my minivan (van was NOT running....of course), and when the engine was hot with the 2 brush starter it turned the engine pretty slowly. Since I've installed my new bike battery ETX18L about $85 from O'Reilly (list for them is around $100, but if you know how to negotiate with them, you can get it down some), hot or cold you could not tell the difference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goose68 Posted May 25, 2015 Share #10 Posted May 25, 2015 I bought a Deka Battery from skydock and have been very pleased Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evan Posted May 26, 2015 Share #11 Posted May 26, 2015 The 4 brush starter will spin your motor fast and for a long time even if your battery is just OK after years of fighting this I was amazed. I just bought the upgraded Battery cables from Dingy last month he might still have some they were well made and soft bendable cable so they were easy to install My experience is that the difference between the original and 4 pole starter is simply amazing. I noticed virtually no difference with my cable upgrades but the 4 pole starter - WOW. It?s also a straight bolt in place deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donvito Posted May 26, 2015 Share #12 Posted May 26, 2015 On my 87, I did the cable upgrade and the AGM battery and haven't had a hot start problem since. I was lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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