zukidave Posted September 8, 2013 Share #1 Posted September 8, 2013 So this 84 I pick up need's the tank pulled to cleaned. Look's to me the rear sub frame has to come off if I'am right ?? ?can the rear come off in one peice ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggletooth Posted September 8, 2013 Share #2 Posted September 8, 2013 Yep. Youre looking at it the right way. Removing subframe at mounting points and leaving everything attached to it is the easy way. One Guy can remove it but an extra set of hands make it easier to line back up going back on. From my Droid wherever I may happen to be at any given moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 8, 2013 Share #3 Posted September 8, 2013 Manual does a fair job with this one. I pulled one before this site running blind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukidave Posted September 9, 2013 Author Share #4 Posted September 9, 2013 Thank's guy's that's what I needed to know. Looked to me you unplug the back half and the four bolt's and it should all come off but then I didn't look that close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 9, 2013 Share #5 Posted September 9, 2013 Here is a pic of what you are getting after. http://www.ebay.com/itm/87-YAMAHA-XVZ13-VENTURE-REAR-SUBFRAME-/270896238557?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f12ac8fdd&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 9, 2013 Share #6 Posted September 9, 2013 Another way to go. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-YAMAHA-VENTURE-XVZ1200-GAS-TANK-IN-GREAT-CONDINTION-/290974521821?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43bf6ed9dd&vxp=mtr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted September 9, 2013 Share #7 Posted September 9, 2013 Another way to go. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1983-YAMAHA-VENTURE-XVZ1200-GAS-TANK-IN-GREAT-CONDINTION-/290974521821?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43bf6ed9dd&vxp=mtr That's what I did just got a clean tank off of Ebay. I just have too much work to do on the bike to get involved in tank cleaning and possibly relining. By time I figured out what it could cost in a worse case scenario. I just got another tank and avoided the problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted September 9, 2013 Share #8 Posted September 9, 2013 Couple of pictures attached showing what it looks like with access to tank. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 9, 2013 Share #9 Posted September 9, 2013 Subframe and tank is easy pull once you've done it. Takes a little head scratching 1st time but what don't?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 9, 2013 Share #10 Posted September 9, 2013 That's what I did just got a clean tank off of Ebay. I just have too much work to do on the bike to get involved in tank cleaning and possibly relining. By time I figured out what it could cost in a worse case scenario. I just got another tank and avoided the problems. I would put the other one up and reline some winter day when things are slow..:whistling:so you would have it ready when I need it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted September 10, 2013 Share #11 Posted September 10, 2013 I would put the other one up and reline some winter day when things are slow..:whistling:so you would have it ready when I need it.... That's exactly what I'm thinking of doing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 10, 2013 Share #12 Posted September 10, 2013 That's exactly what I'm thinking of doing! :clap2::clap2: I have one with the same thoughts but its one I pulled to replace and not sure I can save it . Rusted completely thru in one spot but we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukidave Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted September 10, 2013 Got a beer after work today and took a better look at it and will be no big deal to pull the rear off. Thinking while the bike's apart be a good time to do the tire and go through the susp. so what's a good tire on these thing's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilliganJ Posted September 10, 2013 Share #14 Posted September 10, 2013 That's what I did just got a clean tank off of Ebay. I just have too much work to do on the bike to get involved in tank cleaning and possibly relining. By time I figured out what it could cost in a worse case scenario. I just got another tank and avoided the problems. I sure wish they had invented E-Bay and this website when my '84 developed pinhole leaks in the tank that started leaking as I was riding the South Rim of the Grand Canyon about 15 years ago. It smelled like I was dribbling a pretty good steady stream and I was as I used a half tank in the 45 miles from Cameron to the village. My friend is a park ranger there, we laid the bike on its side tried to patch the holes with JB weld before we hiked to the Phantom Ranch at the bottom of the canyon and spent the night, hiked back out the next day, spent another night at his house in the village, stood the bike up after 2 days of curing and within an hour the tank was dripping gas again. Had to drive to Flagstaff to rent a U-Haul truck to get the bike back home to Seattle This was the 1st of several U-Haul solutions I have (Enjoyed???) over the years and all of them have been from leaking gas problems! So ANYHOW when I got back home I searched and researched the issue, I was hoping I could find somebody to braze in the leaks with brass as I had gotten successfully done on a dirt bike tank with the same problem, NOBODY was willing to come close to this tank with a torch though but I found a radiator shop nearby that said they could line the tank with the same stuff they used to line the fuel tanks of Boeing 747's for $75.00, I thought that sounded good. I reinstalled the tank 2 weeks later after curing and it lasted for a year before it started leaking again! I took it back to the radiator shop and they relined it again. That was maybe 15 years ago and so far so good. After pulling the tank a couple of times I got pretty good at it but it is still a P.I.T.A.! which leads me back to the first line of my comment...SURE wish the had invented E-Bay back then (whenever it was) cause it sure would have been easier (probably cheaper too) to just buy a new tank if I could have found one not at the stealer-ship. P.S. As I was dribbling that trail through one of the world most beautiful places I had visions of a little fire trail following me right up to my buddy's house as the forest caught fire in the wake of my 45 mile long trail of (smelly) tears. And that my friends is why I am paranoid about riding my bike out of state ever again! :225:I HATE GAS LEAKS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GilliganJ Posted September 10, 2013 Share #15 Posted September 10, 2013 Got a beer after work today and took a better look at it and will be no big deal to pull the rear off. Thinking while the bike's apart be a good time to do the tire and go through the susp. so what's a good tire on these thing's? As long as the tank is out, take a good look at that STUPID factory formed fuel line that snakes around the tire front of the back tire on the swing arm from the tank outlet on the right side to the fuel filter / pump on the left side. I FINALLY replaced that brittle, leaky SOB with some steel brake line formed with a tubing bender. This experience is what led me to my 2nd out of state U-Haul Solution (Referenced in my previous post) from Incredible Highway 36 between Red Bluff and Eureka CA. That road is just not as much fun with my once again dead scooter in the back of a U-Haul instead of on it! To say nothing of the $700.00 truck rental bill. At the risk of repeating myself... :225:I HATE FUEL LEAKS!!! and :fingers-crossed-emoHere's to NEVER having another! BUT believe it or not I STILL LOVE my '84 100,000 mile Venture! It Just fits me perfect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted September 10, 2013 Share #16 Posted September 10, 2013 The one I have is solid just rusty. A good cleaning is all it really needs. I had old dirty fuel in it. The stuff smelled like kerosene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hell yea Posted September 10, 2013 Share #17 Posted September 10, 2013 just a thort dus a have a reserve and if yes how do i tern it over from the mane tank forgive me for being clueless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hell yea Posted September 10, 2013 Share #18 Posted September 10, 2013 83 first gen that is:backinmyday: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted September 10, 2013 Share #19 Posted September 10, 2013 The reserve selector is located on the Right side of the bike (when sitting on it) a little above and behind the footpegs. These bikes do not have a reserve tank. It works by having a different feed. Sort of like a short straw sticking into the tank with a shorter straw right beside it. When in the run position, and the gas gets below the level of the longer "straw" then you would run out of gas unless you turn to the reserve position and start sucking gas out of the shorter "straw". Our fuel gauges are pretty reliable so most people just leave the fuel selector on reserve all the time and go by the gas gauge. We don't have a reserve position on our cars do we? PLUS....and this is a big PLUS.....they get seized and quite a few folks have broken them trying to turn them. Best just leave it alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted September 10, 2013 Share #20 Posted September 10, 2013 The reserve selector is located on the Right side of the bike (when sitting on it) a little above and behind the footpegs. These bikes do not have a reserve tank. It works by having a different feed. Sort of like a short straw sticking into the tank with a shorter straw right beside it. When in the run position, and the gas gets below the level of the longer "straw" then you would run out of gas unless you turn to the reserve position and start sucking gas out of the shorter "straw". Our fuel gauges are pretty reliable so most people just leave the fuel selector on reserve all the time and go by the gas gauge. We don't have a reserve position on our cars do we? PLUS....and this is a big PLUS.....they get seized and quite a few folks have broken them trying to turn them. Best just leave it alone. :sign yeah that: Very easy to break if they haven't been turned in years.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
icebrrg3rd Posted September 10, 2013 Share #21 Posted September 10, 2013 Hellyea, you have an '83, so the fuel petcock has a choice of "ON" and "OFF". It is hidden behind the right side plastic panel, approx. by the passenger footrest. For '84 and up, the plastic is cut away to expose the switch, which added the "RESERVE" option. So don't bother looking for one, you don't have a "RESERVE" position. -Andrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukidave Posted September 11, 2013 Author Share #22 Posted September 11, 2013 Andrew I have an '84 model but I think I found it. Started diggin the tank out so I can clean it out and damn there's a lot of chit need's took off just to get to it. http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad322/zukiworks/Motorcycle%20stuff/001_zpsd3f0c4d5.jpg :scratch: :scratch: Let's see junk the front fairing, some flat bar's move the peg's back Never mind wrong bike. http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad322/zukiworks/Motorcycle%20stuff/003_zpsb3eff9cd.jpg got the tank out but man that left a BIG hole. http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad322/zukiworks/Motorcycle%20stuff/006_zps69701d63.jpg http://i948.photobucket.com/albums/ad322/zukiworks/Motorcycle%20stuff/005_zpsf63cf29b.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trader Posted September 11, 2013 Share #23 Posted September 11, 2013 Just curious......Are there no springs in your front shocks? They look collapsed in the pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zukidave Posted October 3, 2013 Author Share #24 Posted October 3, 2013 Sorry for the late reply yes there's spring's just no air. Haven't got much done on this been working on the drag bike. I've got a sand blast setup that will let me blast the tank so should get that done and cleaned and back in this weekend . I did get the fuel pump cleaned working, air comp. working and all the light's. Got a ? does the bike have to be running for the air ride stuff to work buddy's goldwing work's like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snaggletooth Posted October 3, 2013 Share #25 Posted October 3, 2013 CLASS air controller only works from the accessory position. Cannot be used from the run position. From my Droid wherever I may happen to be at any given moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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