GothicJB Posted June 15, 2011 Share #1 Posted June 15, 2011 Hey all - Got an '83 Venture Royale that has started intermittently displaying the low brake fluid level warning light... usually it pops on during acceleration in 2nd and 3rd gears. Checked the fluid levels and they seem fine. no drips, leaks or missing fluid at all. BTW ... brakes are working just fine as well. Anyone have any suggestions or ran into this before? Thanks in advance J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plains Venture Posted June 15, 2011 Share #2 Posted June 15, 2011 Check the float in the master cylinder, mine did the same thing and I found the float was sticking at the bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicJB Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share #3 Posted June 15, 2011 checked the float (white piece that moves up and down in the bottom of MC?) didn't seem to be sticking at all ... not sure if there is a "proper" way to check that though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted June 15, 2011 Share #4 Posted June 15, 2011 Rear master also has a float. Did you check it? Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keemez Posted June 15, 2011 Share #5 Posted June 15, 2011 (edited) I eliminated the floats from both master cylinders (reservoirs, actually) and jumpered the wires together for both front and rear- I got sick of seeing the (false) warning. I can clearly see the front m/c fluid level, and with no leaks on the rear I know there's plenty in the reservoir back there (delinked system). I did find a weak spot in the rear circuit- there's a bullet connector about 18" or so away from the rear reservoir on the right side of the frame, nearly abeam the gas filler neck. That connector was somewhat dull so I took and cleaned it up some, and it wasn't as tight as it should have been so I pinched it shut some, but still had the warning after that, so I wirenutted the dang leads together and haven't seen the warning light since. Edited July 27, 2011 by Keemez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicJB Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted June 15, 2011 ok ... so my understanding was that I only have 1 MC ... on the right handlebar... is there another in the rear somewhere ?? that could be the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keemez Posted June 15, 2011 Share #7 Posted June 15, 2011 Here's a shot of the rear reservoir (which is where the float & wiring is..... the master cyl itself is below). Be sure the engine is cool if you're gonna go fiddling around in there.... the rear header is in close proximity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicJB Posted June 15, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted June 15, 2011 Thanks soooo much! I'll have to check that this evening... Previous owner zip tied the sides panel on so not sure what i'm getting into there lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted June 15, 2011 Share #9 Posted June 15, 2011 Here's a shot of the rear reservoir (which is where the float & wiring is..... the master cyl itself is below). Be sure the engine is cool if you're gonna go fiddling around in there.... the rear header is in close proximity. Keem, What kind of hose did you use from the rear reservoir to the master? Anything special? Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keemez Posted June 15, 2011 Share #10 Posted June 15, 2011 Keem, What kind of hose did you use from the rear reservoir to the master? Anything special? Gary Not to my knowledge- just plain old clear reinforced PVC. I don't know for certain how well it will hold up to brake fluid over time- I'll have to keep an eye on it. That stuff is stiff as can be, by the way. There's no way it's going to come off the upper fitting (which is why you don't see a clamp over it). I wanted some clear like Skydoc did so that I could keep an eye on the color/condition of the fluid. Foolish of Yammy not to put a siteglass in that reservoir- the boss is already there for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GothicJB Posted June 17, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted June 17, 2011 Thanks ALL - I appreciate the info and help ... I pulled the side cover off and looked at the rear reservoir and saw ... OMG WTF!!!??? (see pics below) ... apparently the previous owner didn't find this an important thing to mention before the 150 mile ride home when I bought it!?!? He attempted to "fix" the broken res (i'm assuming he broke it by trying to loosen the fill cap) with rubber epoxy and a hose clamp. Anyway, good thing i just picked up an almost complete parts bike the other day - pulled the res off that one and replaced... so far - no more light. Going on The Patriot Ride tomorrow and feel a LOT better about the issue now. Took me 30 minutes to pull both reservoirs and replace the damaged with the good. Kinda proud of myself never having done that specifically before lol. Thanks again everyone - this alone was worth the $12 membership fee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keemez Posted June 17, 2011 Share #12 Posted June 17, 2011 That's one good lookin brake reservoir/fix! Jeez! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teza51 Posted June 17, 2011 Share #13 Posted June 17, 2011 As a temp repair to get you home OK but fancy selling it like that and not telling could of caused a major accident or worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kycycles Posted July 26, 2011 Share #14 Posted July 26, 2011 is the brake warning light the left middle light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted July 26, 2011 Share #15 Posted July 26, 2011 is the brake warning light the left middle light? Yes. Sensor in front & rear brake master, none in clutch. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bkuhr Posted July 26, 2011 Share #16 Posted July 26, 2011 is the brake warning light the left middle light? You have not specified what bike you have, but yes, on 83-85 left middle light is brake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kycycles Posted July 26, 2011 Share #17 Posted July 26, 2011 i think i have it narrowed down to the rear mc. i can jump the wires and the warning light will go away but the flashing red light stays on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kycycles Posted July 26, 2011 Share #18 Posted July 26, 2011 You have not specified what bike you have, but yes, on 83-85 left middle light is brake. sorry..thought i was in the first gen section. mine is an 83 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingy Posted July 26, 2011 Share #19 Posted July 26, 2011 i think i have it narrowed down to the rear mc. i can jump the wires and the warning light will go away but the flashing red light stays on. If the warning light stays on with no icons (7 of them) lit that indicates low fuel condition, no bars on right side of CMU. If bike has full tank, then sendor needs adjusted. Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonm. Posted July 27, 2011 Share #20 Posted July 27, 2011 there's a bolt that is suppose to hold the master to the frame. I would think the frame tab is still there. Properly mount it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kycycles Posted July 27, 2011 Share #21 Posted July 27, 2011 If the warning light stays on with no icons (7 of them) lit that indicates low fuel condition, no bars on right side of CMU. If bike has full tank, then sendor needs adjusted. Gary the side stand was still down..thats why the red light was still flashing. its all in the rear mc...will get into that in the next day or two. thanks for the help guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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