v max = 1st gen ?

[Thom]

doe's the upper triple tree on a v max fit a 1st gen ? a easy way of putting dif. handle bars on ? looking at frogman's 86 v max , it looks like the frames are the same .

[buddy]

Thom even if they don't match,I know you'll find a way to make them look OEM.

 

 

buddy

[Thom]

hi newbe :rotfl:, i think i am goin to start cking the m/c salvages

[CrazyHorse]

I put Kawasaki Voyager bars on mine. Not too bad to do. Some considerations, clearance of the battery cover and clearance of the windshield.

[Thom]

how did you do it ? i have my bars spread so far i had to cut the cruise housing and i can hit my mirrors . you got any pic's ? i have a bum arm and need wider bars .

[Squeeze]

Hi,

 

no the upper Yoke from a Vmax doesn't fit on a 1Gen.

 

But, maybe, the Handlebar Clamp would fit.

 

You can measure the Distance between the two Bolts on the lower Side of the upper Yoke.

 

If my Memory serves my right, this Distance is 100mm on a Vmax, middle to middle. The Bolts are M10x1,25 Thread and some 40 mm long.

 

I thought at first the Handlebar on 1Gen where mounted to the Forklegs, but they are not. They are in Fact mounted to Brace which fits in two Borings in the Yoke, similair to most of the naked Bikes all over all Manufactures. On the 1Gen's there are also some rubber Parts involved. But basically, those two Borings in the 1Gen Yoke might fit to the Vmax Handlebar Clamp Size.

[Squeeze]

here's a Pic of the 1Gen's.

 

http://parts.yamaha-motor.com/partimage.gifx?d=116761,5,0

 

I think, Parts #11 could be exchanged versus one of a Max, and then you can mount whatever 7/8 Inch Handlebar you want.

[Thom]

thanks Squeeze , i owe you your choice at at DQ :cool10:

but one of us is going to have a long ride :rotfl:now the hunt is on ,

[CrazyHorse]

View my pictures there is a picture of them there.

[Squeeze]

Hi again,

 

hey, thanks for the DQ Offer, but be assured, my Brain saves such Offers in the loooooooooooooong Term Storage ... :D :D

 

I will measure the 100mm on Monday, i have two of these in my Garage/Workshop.

 

Even if this Clamp won't work, your can get some of these from another Bike. Only Problem is, most of them would have no 'set Back' like the Vmax Clamp has.

[CrazyHorse]

Ok Thomm, My main purpose for changing the bars was I got bad tendenitus in my elbows from the original handlebars. I like my bars more foward. This is what I did I'm not saying its right and everyone should do it, but its what I did.

 

!. Removed old handlebars from the triple tree.

 

2. Loosened the Ignition switch.

 

3. Removed the whats called the lower handlebar holder.

 

4. Pulled out lower handle bar holder

 

5. Now your left with the triple tree and the 2 holes for mounting the bars.

I used some risers I got for free from a mechanic friend I believe they

were off of a Yamaha Roadstar dont quote me on that. Now the

problem I had was the risers were slightly thicker then the mounting

holes in the triple tree. So I had do drill the holes out slightly of course

I couldnt find a metric drill bit so I used a 9/16 bit slightly bigger then

14mm and drilled the holes out

 

6. Now using this bit it was slightly bigger and provided to much side to

movement inside the triple tree so I used an aluminum can cut and then

rolled up and inserted into the triple tree to use as a shim to tighten up

clearances inside Pic #4 and 5

 

7. Now I could put the risers in and tighten them down.

 

8. I mounted the Kawasaki Voyager adjustable bars to the risers.

Voyager bars are 1" on the bottom part but are 7/8" on the

top part the adjustable part.

 

Now the problem is clearances

is the battery cover. The bars

could hit the battery cover so if you do something like this you may

have to try a few combinations of risers and handlebars. The bars

also will hit the windshield and or your mirrors if they are mounted

to far foward.

You can now play with lean angle since you have

normal bars but remember the clearance with the battery cover.

 

9. Voyager bars themselves present problems. For me the actual handle

bar part was to long to mount the Venture controls this would make

the bars to wide for me and not give me the clearance from the

windshield and mirrors. So I found a spot were I thought it was

comfortable using the Venture Controls next to the Voyager bars

I then cut the Voyager bars down

and slid on the Venture

controls. Next problem with Voyager bars since they are adjustable

they have a big round interlocking point of attachment.

 

this makes the Master cylinders jut out from the bars since its not flat

like a normal bar would be. This is not ideal for me since you dont have

full contact of the Master cylinders and levers but I tightened it down

and seems to work out fine. Now with this setup I could use the

normal length Venture throttle cables which was good.

 

10. Now the bars are attached I still want to use the cruise control

but with this setup I cant mount it like it was so I had to cut the

top part off were the ignition would be. Now the problem of

mounting it. I tried Velcro didnt work so I drilled two hole in whats

left of the top part or the cruise unit and attached it with black

cable ties to the handle bars

The cruise unit functions fine.

 

 

Now this is not my ideal setup but it works. If I were to do it again (I was in a hurry to ride this summer) I dont need adjustable bars. In reality I will never adjust them I just need one that will work for me and thats a more foward bar but on these bikes your are somewhat limited due the clearances of the battery cover, the windshield and mirrors cable lengths and brake line lengths unless you dont mind modifying things. I delinked my brakes and put in new SS brake and clutch lines of the lengths I needed. I also would probably find risers that would slide right in to the triple tree. So far this setup has been good to me with about 4000 miles on it my elbows are fine and have not had the tedenitus problems.

 

Edited August 17, 2020 by Freebird

[Thom]

they are great dirc. and pic's i am going to find some risers and try it . i have a bad rite elbow and need to spread the bars then bring them back to me about 3in. i like how you did the cruise control

thom

[Thom]

jim ,what do you think about 3 in. rizers with a 1 1/2 back ? think it will hit the bat. cover ?

[CrazyHorse]

I think the lower handle bar holder is 12mm if I remember right. I dont know if they make risers with 12mm posts or not. It's gonna take some fanagling. They also have bent risers that bring the bars back to you more but then you might have to worry about battery cover clearance unless they get the bar up high enough to go over the cover.

[CrazyHorse]

Thom I gonna have to do some measuring off of my bike. Peliminary measuring its looks like it might work but alot depends on the bars also. My risers are 2 1/2" high to the center of the bars. It's gonna take me awhile to do this unfortunately I have wedding to go to now. I'll get back to you on this.

[CrazyHorse]

Thom were you able to find any bars?

[Thom]

i bid on some on ebay , i'll know on tues.

[CrazyHorse]

Thom looks like a nice set of bars. I hope you get them for a better price then I did.

[Thom]

me to , less than one day

[Thom]

did not get it , tryed that new ebay beta it is not that fast lost the bid , getting on the phone tomorrow to the m/c salvage .

[Thom]

got the bars today only 30 bucks , found a rizer 3 1/2 high 1 1/2 back goin to start the install tomorrow , anybody know how i can get the left grip off so i can reuse it ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CrazyHorse]

I think I sprayed some penetrating oil in if I remember right and used a screw driver to peel it up a bit and twist it. You may need longer cables and brake/clutch lines with that set up if your keep ing those bars stock. Feel free to call me if you have questions.

[Thom]

thanks , i may have to .

thom

[eagleeye]

Any kind of lubricant underneath it should work.

 

Good luck,

 

Steve

[Thom]

i did it , your rite jimbob it aint no fun , the nut that holds the stock rizer on was seized , i had to pull the head , glad i did the tube clamps where lose , had to drill out the holes to a 1/2 in. because of the rizers i used , i cut the wish bone clap ,it was about 1/2 in. to narrow ,i was goin to cut both sides and grind them down to look good but i just had to leave it in , besides the cruise central will cover it up . i had to cut the bar tips 2 1/2 in to make the controls fit , the spead is still very nice . i road it around the parking lot it works great , tomorrow i'll cut and mount the c.c rite like jimbob did and take it for a long ride ,its raining now , i got to figger out how to move the key sw. up and mount the cup holder