Marcarl
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Whoa......almost forgot.......you cannot change the clutch basket out of a 2nd Generation with a First Generation.......everyone knows the 2nd Gen will outrun the 1st Gen......no would not want to slow Cricket down.
:stirthepot:Now my mother told me that running at the mouth is not quite the same as running on the road, so be careful little lips what you say (or fingers what you type).
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ya but will it fix the 2nd gen CHIRP?
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Glad to hear you're ok Ed, Heal well and stop by sometime, kind of miss seeing you.
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Thanks for posting, if I still had that age of kids I'd take advantage, but I do have grandkids so will pass it on.
Carl
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My first guess would be a collapsed hose.
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I am not afraid to stand in front of the bus, I usually do, life is much more fun that way!. Besides I love to mess with some of these guys, they are great fun and I think a little more intelligent than the average bear.
About the break in oil, you know........I noticed that with my new bike, for one thing the drain plug was in so tight I was wondering for a bit if it had left hand threads, it took a breaker bar to get it out. But I did notice the factory oil was of a strange consistency, and had a green tint to it. I do believe it was a lighter oil. I know my manual says the first service is to be at 600 miles, I never made it that far, I think I made it to about 200 miles and by the time I got to 600 I had tried just about all of them. So a lighter oil ran a little longer may very well help, and yes with all this new technology, and super oils, they do really protect the engine, but it is the main drive gears we are concerned about with the chirp.
The gear whine in my bike has gotten better, and yes it is past the break in, so was it just normal wear in, or was it the 20w50 I finally settled on that quieted it down. Do not know that answer. I also know some of the dealers are now using and recommending the 20w50. Shhhhhhhh, do not tell anyone that!! But have picked up on that hint lately.
So I will have to again just use common sense and say I do not think the chirp is related to the gears. Gear whine is gear whine, it is a totally different sound than the chirp. Ever hear an old wagon wheel squeak as it is pulled along? It is not a steady constant sound........it is intermentient. (how ya spell that anyhaw!!) That is like the chirp these bikes have, it is almost like an out of balance wheel......the chirp sounds off when the wheel comes to that point. So standing in front of the bus, I say the chirp is not related to the gears. The gear whine is and actually the gear whine is not a bad sound and seems to diminish during break in, this chirp is something else.
You know there is this spacer or thrust washer between the rear main basket and the front part of the whatever you call it........then the main nut and retainer ring hold that all together and then your plates and discs go on to that........six bolts hold all that in....I have been suspicious for some time now it is related to that thrust washer. Also with out fail, my bike and those who know how to explain it....when you pull in the clutch the chirp instantly stops............fellows all this machinery is still rotating even with the clutch pulled in. Hmmmmmmm? I am quite suspicious it is not the gearing.....some I basket solutions do not work........some do.....what are we not being told? I asked if I could watch, if I could take photos of the I basket.......they are reluctant for me to do this.......that Kit is up to something:rotf:
. Food for thought.......think about it. Take Care Kit.Addition: I have found talking to these guys to not leave stuff out!! By still rotating with the clutch pulled in or disengaged I mean, when at speed......on the road....pull in the clutch, things do not instantly disengage.
So with the clutch pulled the chirp stops, but then the pressure on the primary gear is also released and therefore it may run quieter. In my non-professional opinion I think the gears behind the clutch are causing a vibration which is then picked up by the basket and amplified by the fingers of the basket. Either we change the gears or fix the basket so it can no longer amplify sound.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I've had lunch and now going for supper.
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Is Yahama a little outragous ?
Best of luck
BRad
Don't know about that, but it would be a day or two before arrival and we think we need it sooner, so any bearing will do and then some what less expensive.
Thanks Squeeze, you are really the helpful kind.
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Wonder what the power consumption is. There is only so much available on our scoots.
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Can someone tell me what the NON YAMAHA number would be for the steering head bearings in an 84 Venture?
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Complained all summer that is was so dry, and now it seems we can't please him again. Oh well, he'll get over it.
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Sure is nice to see something going your way, goodnees knows lots has been sent the other way in the past.
God bless you Bro
Carl
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Ok, so now you admit an error and that't great, you did have me confuzulled for a bit but now I lead you down the path a little further because I tink we is getting close to an answer. The noise I assume, and I assume only at this point, and I need to assume something so that that it gives me a starting point, the noise is mainly coming from the gears, but the gears on their own would not put out the amplification that we tend to hear, so we have a clutch basket that will. In fact, the basket, if looked at a little differently is actually a whole set of tunning forks, you know the kind that muscians use? I say that the vibration from the gears is setting these tuning forks in motion and once that happens we hear the results clearly, that's why some baskets will whine and other don't. With this assumption we need to stop the tunning forks from vibrating and the way I thought to do that was to cut a small groove aroung the end of the forks and install a spring such as is installed at the base of these forks, this would dampen or, hopefully stop the vibration all together and so we might loose our familiar whine. Now I need a used whinning basket to try this with. Any help?
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One thing about you plumbers, you think everything is always connected(until the water pours out somewhere lol). Anyways, I need further explanation. If I understand it correctly, you took out the clutch, basket and all, then covered the opening to prevent oil from ending up where it shouldn't and then fired up the bike and ran it up to 2000 rpm, and still had the whine present. Now, being as I'm just a 'butcher' I may not understand all things, but this does disengage the transmission, does it not? so if the whine is still present it would not be the tranny? but something in the engine or between the engine and clutch?
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All the pipe connections were tightened with 2 pipe wrenches. They were screwed in as far as possible.
I'm not a Master Plumber, just a master butcher, but two things can be done in error here and I stand to be corrected: One is as discussed, not threaded in far enough and second would be almost the same and that is that the threads were cut too far up the pipe and so giviing the same effect: Not enough material for strength.
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I noticed on your picture all the threads left open on the end of the pipe. Using the info posted so far, all good, you had very little pipe into the elbow, so had a very weak spot there. Not that I recommend anyone building this, as also previously posted, but if you do attempt to build it, make sure the threads are together as far as possible and your luck may hold out somewhat longer.
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as to say a little poem for David (Big Truck).
The Ride Home
Today my ride is out of sight,
The cruise towards most beautiful light.
The road reveals a pearly gate,
That’s where I’ll stay, for you I wait.
I’ve traveled life at my own pace,
Embracing sun upon my face.
I thank above for open air,
And all the wind blown through my hair.
May family, friends & lessons learned,
I cherish all, my page has turned.
As darkness bids farewell to night,
I see the dawn’s embracing light.
My kickstands down, the journey ends,
My soul now sleeps, I’ll miss you friends.
Rest in peace David.
Thoughts and prayers are with your family.
Could not have been said better.
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Wait for us Dave, when we're done here we'll join you.
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God, take care of his family thru this time of trial.
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Really nice, I'm almost jealous and would be if I didn't have a 1st gen myself.
Enjoy
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Amazing how it all worked perfectly, now if they could only get some WORK done, or ride.
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If you have problems finding it or getting to it, post your problems, there's lots of help here, you know that. HEEEEEEEEEEY Pyyyyyro????????
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Back brakes were listed as not working, so you might need some fluid and a way to bleed them. As for the carbs, run it on WD40 until it warms up, often this will loosen some of the thinges necessary for it to work at all, and WD40 will do no harm to the cumbustion chambers, and it will also help lossen up any crud in the system. Use a spray can and spray directly into the carbs.
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You left out Pledge. Try it I love it, but am not sure about the time factor, that will come with age. This is the first year I've used it and so far have had two riders ask me if I got my scoot repainted.
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Not bad, i think, but how about the Explanation in Flemish ?
I could do it in Dutch but Flemish will have to be your department. You're closer.
We get quite used to translating German\English so now it's your turn to do the Flemish.
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Sounds like my ride to Laramie, WY this past July......... only you didn't have the snow, rain, and hail.......
Still trying to translat "nackered", and what the heck is a "cutting"????
Anyone here translate Aussie??????
Ok I'l stick my foot in it, after all nobody knows me anyways and so can't point a finger and say: there's that dummy.
Nackered: Finished, barenaked, all done in, nothing left..........
Cutting: A place of protection from the wind, most likely a build up of land to the right or left, or both. Could also be trees on the side of the road, or buildings.
How did I do?
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You never know how sneaky we can be You deserve them Bud...glad we could help
So sneekie that I didn't even know about it, but you're right Brad, we have a great family.
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. Food for thought.......think about it. Take Care Kit.
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2nd Gen Bra Availibility ......
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So do you make cleaveage covers too?