Guest Brad25ca Posted August 18, 2008 Share #1 Posted August 18, 2008 (edited) I had to replace the # 3 throttle cable on my 86 Royale, and boy what a headache that turned out to be. Aside from the Stealership :mo money:taking almost 2 weeks to get the cable (last time I go there), it's not been an easy road since. First, after I replace the cabled, I can't get rid of all the freeplay. Has anyone else encountered this? I am thinking that the other 3 are stretched, and I'll have to replace all of them to get it back to normal. As well, the cruise control seems to have gone funky. When I set it, I slowly loose speed, it won't maintain. Those things I can deal with. The worst, and it's really my own doing, is now i have electronic interference in the headsets. I rechecked the routing of the harness, and the ground, but I can still "hear" the spark, and it's driving me crazy, as I went form crystal clear to this. :doh:Might my noise filer have gone? Any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Good news is I finally got my hitch on (thanks Squid) & my new trailer pulls like a dream!! Edited August 18, 2008 by Brad25ca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 18, 2008 Share #2 Posted August 18, 2008 I had to replace the # 3 throttle cable on my 86 Royale, and boy what a headache that turned out to be. Aside from the Stealership :mo money:taking almost 2 weeks to get the cable (last time I go there), it's not been an easy road since. First, after I replace the cabled, I can't get rid of all the freeplay. Has anyone else encountered this? I am thinking that the other 3 are stretched, and I'll have to replace all of them to get it back to normal. As well, the cruise control seems to have gone funky. When I set it, I slowly loose speed, it won't maintain. Those things I can deal with. The worst, and it's really my own doing, is now i have electronic interference in the headsets. I rechecked the routing of the harness, and the ground, but I can still "hear" the spark, and it's driving me crazy, as I went form crystal clear to this. :doh:Might my noise filer have gone? Any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Good news is I finally got my hitch on (thanks Squid) & my new trailer pulls like a dream!! I have a follow-up question....On the carb, where the throttle cable metal elbow meets the bracket, should there be some sort of holder, or receiver, as there is on the closed side? I don't have one, and I wonder if when the throttle cable snapped, it flew off....anyone?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gearhead Posted August 18, 2008 Share #3 Posted August 18, 2008 The worst, and it's really my own doing, is now i have electronic interference in the headsets. I rechecked the routing of the harness, and the ground, but I can still "hear" the spark, and it's driving me crazy, as I went form crystal clear to this. :doh:Might my noise filer have gone? Any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated I've never had to replace the cables, but I've never had one so stretched that I couldn't adjust it. That doesn't sound right. Why do you say the noise is your "own doing"? What did you do? How did it start? Jeremy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 18, 2008 Share #4 Posted August 18, 2008 I've never had to replace the cables, but I've never had one so stretched that I couldn't adjust it. That doesn't sound right. Why do you say the noise is your "own doing"? What did you do? How did it start? Jeremy Not sure why the noise started, but I believe i might have done somethign to either kill the noise filter, or something that has caused the electrical interference. I can't get rid of the freeplay, which is why I am asking if there is some sort of clip/receiver/holder on the bracket that accets the metal elbow of the throttle cable that might have fallen off when the cable snapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted August 19, 2008 Share #5 Posted August 19, 2008 You could have freeplay in the Upper pull cable section between the twist grip and the " throttle joint " unit. Or you could have play in the lower pull cable section from the throttle joint to the Carb. Take the left side lower fairing off, and you can get access to the cable length adjustment Lock Nut, and adjustment screw. About 2 1/2 inches from where the cable Exits the tube, before it connects to the carb linkage assembly, I set the Main Idle adjust on the left fwd carb to just makeing contact, then adjust the abov mentioned " adjustment " to give about 1/16 inch of freeplay, then set main idle speed,--- The go back and readjust the cable length to allow for no more then 1/16 inch of play. Don't forget that you could have excess play in the UPPER Cable, adjust that At the Twist Grip. There is an adjusment there also. I set that for NO play. One other item, The dealer mechanic may not have Properly Reassembled your " Throttle Joint Unit " when relaceing the single cable. Only way to get to the Throttle Joint unit, is to Remove the Upper Fairing half. Sorry !!! not a fun job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #6 Posted August 19, 2008 You could have freeplay in the Upper pull cable section between the twist grip and the " throttle joint " unit. Or you could have play in the lower pull cable section from the throttle joint to the Carb. Take the left side lower fairing off, and you can get access to the cable length adjustment Lock Nut, and adjustment screw. About 2 1/2 inches from where the cable Exits the tube, before it connects to the carb linkage assembly, I set the Main Idle adjust on the left fwd carb to just makeing contact, then adjust the abov mentioned " adjustment " to give about 1/16 inch of freeplay, then set main idle speed,--- The go back and readjust the cable length to allow for no more then 1/16 inch of play. Don't forget that you could have excess play in the UPPER Cable, adjust that At the Twist Grip. There is an adjusment there also. I set that for NO play. One other item, The dealer mechanic may not have Properly Reassembled your " Throttle Joint Unit " when relaceing the single cable. Only way to get to the Throttle Joint unit, is to Remove the Upper Fairing half. Sorry !!! not a fun job. Did the job myself and made all the adjustments as suggested....still stumped Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted August 19, 2008 Share #7 Posted August 19, 2008 Did you dissassemble the Throttle Joint? Did the Spring fly out ?? ( mine did ) If so, did you replace the spring inside the throttle joint proberly ? ( just a thought ) Are you sure the freeplay is not up at the Twist Grip Assembly ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted August 19, 2008 Share #8 Posted August 19, 2008 I had to replace the # 3 throttle cable on my 86 Royale, and boy what a headache that turned out to be. Aside from the Stealership :mo money:taking almost 2 weeks to get the cable (last time I go there), it's not been an easy road since. First, after I replace the cabled, I can't get rid of all the freeplay. Has anyone else encountered this? I am thinking that the other 3 are stretched, and I'll have to replace all of them to get it back to normal. As well, the cruise control seems to have gone funky. When I set it, I slowly loose speed, it won't maintain. Those things I can deal with. The worst, and it's really my own doing, is now i have electronic interference in the headsets. I rechecked the routing of the harness, and the ground, but I can still "hear" the spark, and it's driving me crazy, as I went form crystal clear to this. :doh:Might my noise filer have gone? Any ideas or suggestions are greatly appreciated. Good news is I finally got my hitch on (thanks Squid) & my new trailer pulls like a dream!! I just replaced #3 cable about a year ago and I agree its a major PITA to replace.....About the freeplay..the cable runs through a 90 deg metal tube..one end of that tube has an adjustment that you screw out to lengthen the tube thus taking freeplay out of the cable..(it takes a 10mm open end wrench to adjust..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #9 Posted August 19, 2008 I just replaced #3 cable about a year ago and I agree its a major PITA to replace.....About the freeplay..the cable runs through a 90 deg metal tube..one end of that tube has an adjustment that you screw out to lengthen the tube thus taking freeplay out of the cable..(it takes a 10mm open end wrench to adjust..) I think this might be the problem. I don't have an adjustment screw at the 90 degree tube..I think that might have flown off when the cable snapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyHorse Posted August 19, 2008 Share #10 Posted August 19, 2008 The noise filter is mounted to the left inner fairing did you disconnect it when messed with the throttle cables and not hook it back up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #11 Posted August 19, 2008 The noise filter is mounted to the left inner fairing did you disconnect it when messed with the throttle cables and not hook it back up? Hooked it back up. Went over everything with a fine tooth comb with my brother who is a very meticulous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted August 19, 2008 Share #12 Posted August 19, 2008 Well, if that Adjustment Section is Missing, you will Have To Replace It. !! NO, way around that . Start looking at the IPC, for Part Numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #13 Posted August 19, 2008 Well, if that Adjustment Section is Missing, you will Have To Replace It. !! NO, way around that . Start looking at the IPC, for Part Numbers. I'm sorry, I re-read the post and misinterpreted what you were describing. I bought the complete cable, which includes the adjuster that is on the cable. I am wondering if there is a holder, or receiver that is supposed to be on the bracket (like there is on the closed side) that has fallen off? I looked on the parts diagram, but I can't tell, and I can't find a decent picture of the carbs from the throttle side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #14 Posted August 19, 2008 Did you dissassemble the Throttle Joint? Did the Spring fly out ?? ( mine did ) If so, did you replace the spring inside the throttle joint proberly ? ( just a thought ) Are you sure the freeplay is not up at the Twist Grip Assembly ?? I had to disassemble the joint, spring is still in place, didn't loose it. There is too much freeplay in the cable, but the shroud seems to fit fine both at the grip , joint, and the carb. Mind you, not knowing if there is a receiver or holder that is supposed to be on the bracket hinders the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted August 19, 2008 Share #15 Posted August 19, 2008 I think this might be the problem. I don't have an adjustment screw at the 90 degree tube..I think that might have flown off when the cable snapped. ...If you ordered a new cable then it comes with that 90 deg metal tube that the cable runs through...one end of that tube goes into a holder on the carb and the other end has an adjustment that when turned out will lengthen thereby taking freeplay out of the cable.... Bad pic of metal tube but you can see where the adjustment is on the end.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #16 Posted August 19, 2008 ...If you ordered a new cable then it comes with that 90 deg metal tube that the cable runs through...one end of that tube goes into a holder on the carb and the other end has an adjustment that when turned out will lengthen thereby taking freeplay out of the cable.... Bad pic of metal tube but you can see where the adjustment is on the end.. Thanks for the pic, I do have that. My question is, where the cable comes out and hooks to the carb, does it fit into something that stops the metal tube from dropping right through the hole of the bracket? On the closed side, where the cable meets the bracket, there is a receiver that stops the tube from sliding straight through the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeS Posted August 19, 2008 Share #17 Posted August 19, 2008 The 90 degree Section should mount Solidley In Place. IT must NOT move. The Adjustment section of the cable and Locking Nut, come as Part OF the New Cable assembly !! IF you do not have the Adjustment Section, and Lock Nut, then, you have the wrong cable. ie I am beginning to suspect that you might be useing a Return Cable, Instead of a PULL cable . ???? Double check this, You said, there is not Adjustment section on your Cable ??? Does not make sence. Study the IPC, make sure you have the correct part number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobcat Posted August 19, 2008 Share #18 Posted August 19, 2008 Thanks for the pic, I do have that. My question is, where the cable comes out and hooks to the carb, does it fit into something that stops the metal tube from dropping right through the hole of the bracket? On the closed side, where the cable meets the bracket, there is a receiver that stops the tube from sliding straight through the hole. Yes, it fits into a brass bracket as shown in the pic....(I used a little loctite on that end of the tube..) You adjust the other end to take freeplay out of the cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #19 Posted August 19, 2008 Yes, it fits into a brass bracket as shown in the pic....(I used a little loctite on that end of the tube..) You adjust the other end to take freeplay out of the cable Problem solved, I am missing the brass bucket. Thanks bobcat for taking the time to take the pictures. Thanks everyone, now I know what I need to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 19, 2008 Share #20 Posted August 19, 2008 Yes, it fits into a brass bracket as shown in the pic....(I used a little loctite on that end of the tube..) You adjust the other end to take freeplay out of the cable Almsot solved...it looks like the throttle calbe is threaded on the outside of the white plastic roller...or is it just the pic:confused24:??? Thanks again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 20, 2008 Share #21 Posted August 20, 2008 Went to the dealership & the part I need can't be ordered, it's part of the full carburetor assembly, so I'll have to look for something else to take it's place, might have to get something machines to act as a receiver. Thanks again everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skydoc_17 Posted August 21, 2008 Share #22 Posted August 21, 2008 Hi Brad, Sorry to hear about your lost throttle part. If you send me a drawing of what you need, I can make that part for you, no charge! Earl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brad25ca Posted August 21, 2008 Share #23 Posted August 21, 2008 Thanks to everyone, Jimbo had a nextra & it`s on the way. I`ll be back on the road soon (hopefully before the snow flies here in Nova Scotia)!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest byekryam Posted July 17, 2010 Share #24 Posted July 17, 2010 Where can you get a replacement set of throttle cables? Thanks, Woody Please respond to byekryam@aol.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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