Ignition Switch bypass question

[Papa Fred]

Using the "bypass" instructions from the Tech Talk Read only board, I just installed a bypass. As close as I could read and look at the pictures, I spliced in a short piece of 10 guage wire into each of the RED and BROWN/BLUE wires in the "2-wire" bundle off the Ignition Switch. (the wires were spliced in downstream of the connector to allow removal of the Ignition if necessary)

These 2 wires were attached to a toggle switch. I will mention here that the Battery is completely disconnected..no wires.

With the Ignition off and the Toggle on, the bike powers up and I can crank the engine..no fire. Toggle on Ignition on, bike runs. Toggle off Ignition on bike runs. ALL WITH NO BATTERY!

How?

 

I noticed a slight difference in the 2 posts I read in the Tech forum. One described the procedure as splicing into the RED and the BROWN/BLUE and running out to the Toggle. Another post DESCRIBES the same setup but in his pictures show splicing into the RED wire of the 2-wire bundle and an unknown wire in the 3-wire bundle.

[djh3]

How did you get it to start with no battery connected?

[Papa Fred]

This is an apology, of sorts, and a confession. The confession concerns my previous posts about the Bypass switch installation. At the completion of that mod I appeared to have a "live" bike, in that the bike would start and run with the battery disconnected. Turns out I was having a Brain Cramp on a biblical scale.

The previous owner had installed a battery charging cord that was all neatly tucked away and connected to the battery terminals with what looked like battery cable "ends". When I was working on the bike, I had disconnected those cables from the battery, not realizing the bike's cables were beneath them. Therefore..."live" bike.

 

I'll pause here for a moment to allow you time to stop laughing.

 

The apology is to anyone who was trying to figure out how a bike could start and run with no battery. Sorry for burning up useful brain cells.

 

I return you now to your regularly scheduled program...

Humbly bowing and looking for a book on motorcycle electrics..

Papa Fred

[djh3]

I got a Clymer manual I'll sell ya. I sent you an e-mail. Like I said in it I dont remember which way it went. But I think when I tried just a toggle switch on the ignition switch side the bike will not run as you have to get some power over to ecm.

And I truly was trying to figure out how you could get the bike to start without a battery, and a kick starter.