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Well....Shucks!
I left out yesterday morning at the crack of dawn. About 220 miles south west of Pittsburgh, a large black rubber wheel chock flew off of an 18 wheeler, right into my front grill of my truck! It took the rest of the day to get AAA to tow my rig back home. Thank heavens for AAA RV Towing! Made it home after 9pm. Because my truck is a bit older, the damage almost totalled her...Almost! I'm sitting here this morning, 620 miles from where I want to be! Needless to say I am truly bummed!
Safe journeys to all who are riding this week!
Earl.
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Well, The Old Skydoc is gonna' be there, I'm booked at the Pterodactyl Inn! Or is that the "Feather and Fin"! Oh Yea', that's it, Feather and Fin.
I say we all pull up in Ronnie's front yard and yell, "What's for Breakfast"!
If I remember correctly, Ronnie's wife just retired as an Elementary School Teacher!!! Surely, she can handle a group of "Troublesome Boys, on their noisy motorbikes"!!!
If not, I have a spare bed in my hotel room for Ronnie!
Looking forward to seeing everyone,
Earl.
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The Skydoc and company have booked the last room at the Feather and Fin. Here's hoping that we will get to see a few old friends... and hopefully meet some NEW ones!
I hope to see everyone there!
Earl.
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Hey Matt,
Sorry to hear about your braking trouble! The rear Master Cylinder is dangerously close to the exhaust manifold for the rear cylinder. If you fill the Master Cylinder to the top, the heat from the engine expands the brake fluid. With the Master Cylinder full, there is no place for the expanded fluid to go except to compress the brake pads. And since the left front and the rear brake caliper BOTH work off of the rear Master Cylinder, it locked up both calipers! Pull the plug off of the Rear Master Cylinder, Insert your index finger to the SECOND NUCKLE, if there is brake fluid on the end of your finger, the Master Cylinder is OVERFILLED!! Lower the level until it just touches the tip of your index finger with the inside of your second nuckle is touching the Master Cylinder. If this Master Cylinder is UNDERFILLED, you will get a light on the dash to inform you. Splash a little fluid in there, BUT do not overfill the Master.
Because of what happened, you may have overheated the brake pads. The issue with this is the friction medium is GLUED to the metal backing plate. Sometimes the heat is too great for the glue, and the friction medium detaches from the backing plates.
I am a Vendor for EBC braking products, (brake pads, rotors, etc.) And as Richard kindly mentioned, (Thanks for the Props Rich!) I do offer a delink kit which connects BOTH front calipers to the right front brake lever, and connects ONLY the rear caliper to the foot pedal. If I can help you with either of the items, please feel free to contact me.
If the pads didn't separate, lower the fluid in the Master, and go for a ride!
Good luck with this project Matt,
Earl.
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Hey Leland,
Congrats on the new Scoot! I am sure you will have "Miles of Smiles" with that beauty!
Over the years, I have "Acquired" several motorcycles. I am VERY fortunate that I have the room for them, as well as a wife who is a "Good Sport" about having a few extra "Toys"! The bikes range from a pair of 550c.c. Honda Silver Wings, to a pair of Honda V65 Magnas, to a pair of MKII VR's (87' and 89') and finally an MKI VR (1984). Depending on my mood, distance, weather, and who's riding with me, determines which bike I take.
As with many here Leland, it doesn't matter what you ride, it's the fact that you DO RIDE! I swear that I feel 10 years younger as soon as my butt hits the saddle! I am sure it will be the same for you as well.
Safe Journeys, my friend! And don't be a stranger just because you bought a different bike. Heck Leland, the Founder of this web site, and now his wife BOTH ride Harley's, and we STILL let them "Hang Out"! LOL!
Earl
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Hey Don,
You Sir, are a GOOD MAN!
We don't care what kind of bike you and Eileen ride, we DO care that you ride safely, visit many wonderful places, and take lots of pics to share with the forum members! Heck! we got members that ride Electric Bicycles for Jimmy's sake! You do YOU, Don and Eileen!
Update: Thanks Don, I showed Jean Eileen's new bike, and now SHE wants one too so she can ride with Eileen!
Thanks Buddy!
Earl.
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Both Jean and I hope that 2024 brings back some of the fun outings we used to have. I sure do miss those days! But I also look forward to whatever our forum offers in the new year.
Please stay safe,
Earl and Jean Harrell.
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Hey John,
Where would this event take place? I am assuming it is in Ohio, but I thought if we nailed down the event site, we might get a bit more interest in it. I for one have been an "Avid" Cigar Smoker for pretty much my entire adult life. Unfortunately, due to recent events, (Heart Attack, Bypass, etc.) I have been left to Vape from time to time. BUT I am always up for a good Meet and Greet! Count me in!
Thanks for bringing this to our attention,
Earl
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THIS is sad news in deed! R.I.P. Muffinman!
I met Jeff some 15 plus years ago. This Man was a "Force Of Nature"! He was one of the few people that could make me say, "COOL, How in the Heck Did You Do THAT"!!
Prayers Up for MiniMuffin and the Family.
Earl and Jean Harrell.
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Both Jean and I wanted to take this moment to wish one and all a Very Merry Christmas, and here's hoping that 2024 is a wonderful year for ALL of us!
Earl and Jean Harrell
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Hey Jr.
Ebay has them. Here's the link:
I hope this helps,
Earl.
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Hey Rich,
What is your impression of this tire? How many miles so far?
Thanks,
Earl.
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Hey Rich,
Sorry for the slow reply, If you have dealt with this issue, I would LOVE to know which tire you selected? You also threw me off for a sec. when I looked at the tire size in the link. (With a First Gen. Rear Tire being 16 inches!!!) I got it now, it's for your Second Gen.
Petlas Tire Corp. made Military Tires mostly from the mid 70's to the end of the 90's. They got into Industrial Tires in the 90's AND I actually saw these tires a LOT on equipment to move Jet Engines, Fuel Drop Tanks, Wheel Assemblies, etc. at Lockheed/Martin when I worked there. I will add that the Assembly Moving Trailers I saw were pulled around but were NEVER exposed to Interstate Highway Speeds, under power. I never saw a flat or blow out even though they were "Overloaded" regularly! I personally have never ran these tires on a motor vehicle, but like I said, I have been exposed to them.
I hope this helps Rich, and let us know what choice you make.
Earl
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Hey Dan,
It's NOT you, it's those pesky Metric fasteners! Harbor Freight actually has a decent Impact Driver for under $20. I like others try to replace every screw with Metric Cap Screws in Stainless Steel. This solves the rust issue and you can use Allen Head Wrenches on the Cap Screws to deliver higher torque to the fastener.
Hope this helps,
Earl.
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HOLY COW DUEY! Both Jean and I are really sad to hear about your issues! We are both glad that you made it through the first go around, here's hoping you have the best possible outcome on the next! We're prayin' for ya' Duey!
Earl and Jean Harrell
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Both Jean and I wanted to take a moment and remind everyone that they don't call it "THANKSgiving" for nothing!!
Thank you one and all for taking this journey with us....ALL OF US!
HAPPY THANKSGIVING!
Earl and Jean.
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Hey Daniel,
I'm just going to go down the list, and if I mention something you already knew about, I apologize in advance for that! Here goes!
The angle of the slots on a METRIC Phillips Screw is different than on an American Phillips Screw. So if you're trying to get a metric screw out with that crusty old Craftsman Screwdriver, then that's not gonna' work!
I'm a BIG Fan of using "Nut Buster" or "Liquid Wrench" on any fasteners I am trying to remove from my bikes.
Lastly, I have attached a pic of a "Must Have" Tool when working on ANY bike, and that is a Impact Driver. The one in the pic is a bit "Fancy" but Harbor Freight sells one for less than $20. that does the job just fine. It's better to start out using the Impact Driver than to destroy the screw head and try to remove it after the fact.
I hope this helps,
Earl.
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Hey Don,
Both Jean and I hope you get well soon, and don't get the "LONG HORN"!....I mean "Long Haul" Virus! I hear that you Texacan's are susceptible to that!
Earl and Jean.
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Great Job John! Sadly, your new hitch might be the only thing American made on that truck! Both Jean and I wish you many "Miles of Smiles" with your new hitch! It's a GOOD thing that you stopped to check out that noise! Great Catch and repair John.
Earl.
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Hey Steve,
It's been a while, Buddy! Are you back in NC? What are you riding these days? Don't be a stranger, (Well NO stranger than normal!) Earl and Jean.
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Both my wife Jean and I are sending up prayers for Joe and his recent Stroke! As they say, "The best laid plans of mice and men!" I don't think anyone "plans" to have a stroke, but I personally am glad to hear that Joe has made it through to the other side, damaged, but still kickin'!
Here's hoping that your recovery is quick and complete!
Earl and Jean Harrell.
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Hey Steven,
Both my wife Jean and I are sending Shari prayers her way! Here's hoping that she has a FULL recovery! My wife Jean has been my "Wing Man" for over 350,000 miles of riding together over the years! She never had the courage to ride her own motorcycle, and always enjoyed riding on the back of my bike. Needless to say, I always enjoyed having her back there with me.
It takes a "Special Person" to be involved in a life changing motor vehicle accident and then want to "get back on the horse", so to speak. Both Jean and I wish Shari the very best in her recovery, and also hope that this accident doesn't spoil her love of riding!
Earl and Jean Harrell.
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Hey John,
After hearing more details about the issue, I am going to agree with Marcarl on this one! At the very least, I believe the rear caliper is no longer functioning properly. (the caliper pistons are compressing, but NOT retracting) Which leads me to believe that the right front caliper is no longer functioning properly as well. This is the point I was trying to make earlier. Chasing the lack of function of one component at a time is frustrating and it compounds the labor to effect a total repair of the system. (either brake or clutch) This is what I meant by "Biting the bullet" and just rebuilding/upgrading the entire system ONE TIME, and getting on with the Riding part of this journey. Frankly, as long as the right front caliper wasn't locking up, how would you know if it was working at all?!?! Unlike the right front caliper, which is dedicated to the right front M/C, the left front and rear calipers are "Linked" together. There isn't really a good way to isolate either the right front or rear caliper to test them. At my shop, I have a "Test Fixture" where I can connect a single caliper to see if it is functioning properly. This is why I suggested rebuilding BOTH M/C's as well as ALL of the calipers right off the bat. One Job, One Time!
The next few things I am going to speak about may seem a bit "Brutal", and I apologize in advance for the following comments! To rebuild the rear M/C and lets say the rear caliper but leave the right front caliper Un-rebuilt and expecting the 30 plus year old seals of the right front caliper as well as the old rubber brake lines to handle the increased fluid pressure of all of the other new parts you installed is extremely "Optimistic" in my opinion! Secondly, as scary as a rear caliper Lock Up is, a lock up of the left front caliper at almost ANY speed, (OR right front for that matter) puts you at a VERY HIGH RISK of an 800 pound motorcycle slapping you on the back of your helmet, as well as a "Date" with the pavement!!! What's you LIFE worth, John! Bragging about Road Rash at the age of 20 is "COOL"! Being subjected to Road Rash at 45-65 years old, (or older, in my case) could be the end of my riding career. (Last brutal comment) You couldn't BUY the ash tray of a late model Gold Wing for what you have paid for your Venture. Personally, ANY bike I own NEEDS to GO properly, and STOP properly, that's a minimum requirement for me. Because of the way I ride, the three things I NEVER skimp on are Brakes, Tires, and a working Clutch System. Period! As my wife would say. "I'm Worth It"! Rant over. To find the proportioning valve, follow the rear brake line from the rear caliper to the valve.
Earl.
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Hey Ben,
Thank you Sir, for the kind words about the De-Link Kit I offer for the First Gens. That was Very kind of you. Now, about this rear brake issue!
Hey John, Both Marcarl and Saddlebum have touched on the MOST important points of the issues with the First Gen. rear brakes. I will list all of the things that I have come across during the time I have owned First Gens. (In no particular order) Because of the number of miles I ride every year, I change out my Brake and Clutch Fluid EVERY spring. ( I live in Pennsylvania, so we do not ride all year round) I found that replacing the fluids is much cheaper than repairing the damage that results from water collecting in the Brake and Clutch Systems. As mentioned above by the other two Forum members, the metal internals of the proportioning valve becomes contaminated by the collection of moisture at that location. Another issue is the fact that if you look closely at the outside of the rear Master Cylinder fluid reservoir, you will see that casted right into the reservoir is a place for a sight glass, which was never finished. (ie, NO sight glass!) Because this Master Cylinder is located right next to the right rear exhaust header, it is exposed to a tremendous amount of radiated heat. More so than any other Master Cylinder. When filling this Master Cylinder, I fill it until when I stick my baby finger in the fill port, the brake fluid just barely touches the end of my baby finger. (In case you have stubby fat fingers, (NO insult intended!) the level should be about a good one inch below the fill port) This gives the brake fluid some room to expand due to the extreme heat it is exposed to. Another issue I have come across is the use of "High Friction" performance "HH" style brake pads on the rear caliper. The extra heat developed by these aggressive pads will also overheat the Brake Fluid, and if the Master Cylinder is overfilled, will cause a "Lock-Up" condition like you have described. Another issue is the fact that your brake and clutch lines are roughly 34 years old, the interior of these lines have started to decompose, as well as starting to balloon out during the braking process. This debris in the brake lines clogs up the the proportioning valve, causing it to NOT allow the Brake Fluid to return to the reservoir, which locks up the rear brake caliper. Lastly, a warped Rear Brake Rotor will overheat the rear brake caliper, causing it to lock up.
Well John, I know this looks like "The Long Way Around The Barn" so to speak, about this issue, but the point everyone is trying to make is that ALL of these issues can be addressed with some time and of course some MONEY! I try to justify the time and money by telling myself, "The Brake/Clutch System has functioned well for 34 years, if I spend the time and money to correct these issues, I should be good to go for another 30 plus years"!
Because I do all of my own work, and have access to discounted parts from Yamaha due to my shop here in Pennsylvania, when I purchase a "new to me" First Gen. I usually replace ALL of the Master Cylinders as well as the Clutch Slave Cylinder right off the bat instead of replacing one part at a time until the Brake or Clutch System finally starts to function properly. I fully realize that not everyone has the mechanical ability and/or the finances to drop that kind of money/time on a 30 plus year old motorcycle!
Both the Braking System and the Clutch System of these motorcycles can be upgraded into the 21st century by the "Investment" in some new OEM parts as well as the addition of some "Performance" parts. (the De-Link Kit I offer is one of the Performance parts I am talking about)
It has been my experience that this usually goes one of two ways. Option 1- you bite the bullet and spend the time and money to rebuild the Brake and Clutch Systems. Option 2- the braking system issues are NOT addressed, or piece mealed one part at a time until the bike is unrideable and it is sold for a very low amount of money or even worse, the bike is parted out! BOTH of the First Gens. that I currently own, (an 87'VR and an 89'VR) were both these kinds of bikes. I purchased them for a small amount of money, replaced ALL of the perishable brake and clutch parts right off the bat, upgraded the Line Set and switched to R1 Front Calipers and have been enjoying them ever since.
So at this point John, you need to ask yourself, "Is this motorcycle worth the time and money to get it to brake properly"? If the answer is YES, then feel free to PM me and let's get some new parts on this bike before the summer ends! OR if the answer is NO, then there is a place on this forum where you can list your bike for sale or sell parts off of it. I personally hope the answer is going to be YES! I would hate to see another First Gen. end up being scrapped because of the time/money it would take to "Make it Great Again" LOL!
Thanks again Marcarl and Saddlebum for addressing this issue that plagues most of the First Gens. on the road today. I commend you John, for having the courage to ask for help on this Forum! Either way you decide to go here John, I hope it works out for you.
Earl.
WKY Rally 2024
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Hey All,
I was wondering how the first day went?!?! How was the temps? Do any riding? Any pics? "Help a brother out!
Earl.