Asher1877

Oh surrender ain't in the cards, I've acquired the rear fender and a set of mfr. floorboards. Curiosity question, does anyone happen to know which bolts go to a set of markland floorboards to the rider (not the highway)

Did some page by page browsing, discovered all same from 83-93 thanks, apologies for posting.

This is my first time if memory serves of me jumping out of my own thread so I hope sincerely not to upset or cause anyone some distress. I see what Yamaha was thinking with this bike and I somewhat agree with why they did what they did. I come from a H-D family going back to the post wwII era. To state that my family is against change is an understatement, these guys refuse to even acknowledge the new Indian let alone a revolution motor from H-D. So believe me I can quite sympathize with the love of the v-4, shaft drive, liquid cooling. For many it has the same appeal as a v-6 powered corvette with a turbocharger that has an electric motor backup. I say this not to demean the love of the setup. I have an 86 Royale that I can outright say is a work in progress and have at times been tempted to load up onto a trailer and push into Ladybird Lake. I too was born in 1977 so while many of you were out riding around yes I was in my Superman underoos, eating a fudgesicle while trying to figure out how many more Acme products Wile E. Coyote (super-genius) would have to order to nail the Road Runner (meep meep). The one thing I never forgot while cruising around on the back deck of my parents car trying to watch for my dad to slam on the brakes to launch me onto the floor was the massive bikes that I saw on the highway that had bags, a trunk, a windshield, and looked oh so comfortable. These bikes for the most part were Harley's Electra and Tour-glide, the Yamaha Venture Royale, the Suzuki Cavalcade, Kawasaki's Voyager XII, and the Goldwing. Many of you may have memories back in the day of riding these Clydesdales and still smile at the mere drop of these names and the good old times that you had on them. I envy these memories, truly I do. I genuinely wish that these names in spirit carried forward to this time thirty years after the fact. Unfortunately for us Suzuki fell off to the wayside, the Venture was next, followed by the Voyager. Only the Harley and Honda have made it through with uninterrupted production and even then, the Road/tour glide was interrupted with the Electra following suit with the Goldwing. Harley and Honda gave Kawasaki, Suzuki, and Yamaha a bloody nose with the touring market so badly that they had to back out and recalculate the game. The Cavalcade had serious comfort in it's day and age, the Yamaha had handling and adjustable controls, the Voyager had serious power and a price point to boot. Prior to acquiring MY Venture (and I was only able to do so because it was free) I was saving up for a Goldwing myself. Any manufacturer entering the touring market has to immediately go up against the double barrel of Harley and Honda. Both brands have true die-hard loyal riders and are household names. To enter into this market everything has to be set up correctly from the start and when you do go to jump in, it must be a cannonball. Suzuki, Kawasaki, and Yamaha found a work-around in the 90's with the cruiser touring market. For those riders out there that truly want to go from Los Angeles to New York on a whim, the Wing is the only applicant with the occasional Harley FL thrown in for good measure and a BMW or two. The cruise-tour market was it's own niche for quite a few years since it gave the ability to do occasional long runs but could still be cruised around without too much hassle. Between Suzi, Kawi, and Momma Yama enough attention was able to be drawn that Honda once again got into the game with the Valkyrie tour which at least in my opinion fell off the ugly tree, caught every bunch on the way down and managed to land in the overpriced rosebush as it tried to sneak into the niche. This little window gave us the C90 tour, the Vulcan Voyager and the one that seems to be beloved to members here the Royal Star Venture. While I understand wholeheartedly the desire to keep that v4 with the shaft and everything else this bike has that has endeared us, the Royal Star, the Tour Classic, the Tour Deluxe, and the Venture Royale had reason to keep the facility open that produced said v4. Yamaha eventually phased out the Royal Star, the Tour, the Deluxe and finally the Venture Royale and moved it forward to the Roadie and Strat. We're coming out of a global recession (or so our government tells us) and even still corporations and people feel the pinch, that's everyone from Joe Schmuck to Acme enterprises. The cruiser love is still all over the place. There are many out there myself included that balk at all this techno gee wizardry and will always view it as a distraction while we're riding that we have fought with the cagers for decades about because when these items are used, it takes attention from the driving that is supposed to be at the forefront of our minds. There will always be those of us that look at this and imagine what happens if something electrical goes out in one of THESE babies especially when you consider how much of a rat's nest even a gen 1 venture's wiring harness is. So why in the name of all that is unholy in this and every other universe did Yamaha not only cancel the v4 and the shaft drive and go to the Harley rallies to get information on the bike they were building rather than (for example) here to us? The answer's simple and right in front of our faces....the almighty $$$$. I get it even though I don't like it. Along with many of you I feel that the v4 is as iconic to the Venture as that flat engine is to the Goldwing. A vtwin that's in production on multiple bikes vs a v4 on a single model? If Yamaha had renovated the Venture sooner while they were still cranking out the Royal then yes, an argument could be fiscally made. Shaft drive vs belt drive? No brainer especially with less power loss from the crank to the rear wheel. The styling for me is more hit than miss simply because I feel that in it's own way it is a hybrid front and rear of a Wing with some cruiser touches in the middle. Likewise (yes I am also a member of the vog) I wanted to purchase a Victory and was trying to buy a Vegas so yes I'm disgruntled at Polaris for yanking the rug out from under my feet. The Indian will only pull away from Harley and those of us that recognize the name (consider it a protest vote for the time being). The cost is far too extravagant still and won't go down in value for a few years. Suzuki has no contenders in this market and I don't see them stepping up. Kawasaki's Voyager is due for a remodel sometime in the next three to five years. BMW is in a league of it's own. Harley's still plagued by recalls and the overheating issue and the transmission issue and so on as Harley is known. Triumph has it's Trophy but I'm more than willing to bet that even if you'd heard the name it's doubtful it would even have been considered. So where does this put Yamaha? A perfect spot to snipe with a slightly lower price point but the same slightly updated technology due to being the new kid on the block. Styling lines that will get the Victory guys going and a name that warms the heart in all the right places. For many of us, this is like countering a Hemi Charger with an 80's Charger, it might have the same name on the body but it ain't the same head to head. So what's the choice? Take your pick how many of you when you went out to your Venture for a ride pressed the button on the right grip and knew you'd need a new Venture? Much as I hate sounding like the C.E.O. of Polaris industries, enjoy your bike, love the bike that you ride now. She might not very well be the new hotness out on the dance floor, but she does know how to make you warm in bed at night, cook your favorite meal and even cares enough about you to wash the skidmarks out of your underwear while still kissing you on the lips. For the next generation that doesn't remember the 80's 90's Ventures, the name still gets to carry forward and they have the ability to forge their own memories with this bike. I've seen so many of you that claim that this bike will be your last and as someone that could easily at one time have referred to you as "Father" "Uncle" "Grandfather" I'm honored to know that there are riders here that have survived the asphalt jungle without loss of life. Likewise it's difficult to watch time tick away as I'm getting older but there's nothing like the "good ol' days" stories to ignite that passion in the next generation. Maybe I'm getting too damn sentimental and making too much of this. Maybe I should join the *****wagon about the motor and shaft drive and the styling. I still haven't ridden my Venture since it's being built and don't know the sensation as of yet of a V4 but who knows. For someone out there, this is their dream. For someone else, it's their nightmare. For me it's another rider that I get to wave to as I pass down the road.

Don't have the cash for it.

I really hate texas sometimes especially when it comes to heat, alright not a lot done today but progress has been made. Changed out the final drive oil, all 3 brake pads, bled the brakes with fresh fluid, topped off the hydraulic clutch and reattached the exhaust pipes on both sides. Trying to figure out what to do next, debating on ordering a Royal Star rear fender and lopping off the subframe behind the pillion seat using that as a replacement. Unsure as to the fit of the fender so I'm having to pull from bobber school. http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j25/ashersgcorps/20170608_173254.jpg http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j25/ashersgcorps/untitled_1.png

Of course I finally get everything I need to start working on the bike again....and we're slated to have thunderstorms until Thursday and my bike is in the parking lot under a cover......fml

Sorry it's been awhile since I last had an update, Been dealing with out of control life drama but been nickle and diming stuff for the bike where I can. I've acquired brake pads, brake fluid, gear drive fluid and I'm working on the bike hopefully tomorrow weather permitting. I'll post what photos I can.

Thanks, but I might not be able to finish the bike. The deeper I dig, the more I find missing, the air ride system and all of it's compressors and what not are gone. So far I've spent less than 150 on it. Depending on how the tax return goes decides whether or not it stays or goes. I'm just frustrated beyond belief. I used to love this royale when I first saw it as a kid. Will post more when I know more.

well holidays have come and gone and I'm lost as to where to go to next, I've installed the rear inner fender, but do i mount the exhaust, i'm completely confused as to where to go to next. Help would be greatly appreciated pleased, I'm feeling overwhelmed.

Located the bolts for the exhaust mufflers on fleabay. So looks like this friday, it's brake pads, bleed rear brakes, change shaft lubrication and toss mufflers on.

Alright, so here's the latest. I got the seat stay, subframe, frame all finalized. Here's the pics. http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161025_130614.jpg http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161025_130603.jpg http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161025_130632.jpg http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161025_130642.jpg So, I'm pleased with myself thus far. I figure what better time to order new parts than right after picking up the parts I just ordered? So I head up to the stealership, figure I'll order the bolts to pop on the mufflers....Yamaha doesn't make them anymore. Okay....How about the bolts for the front fender? Nope. I then ask about possibly getting the bolts for the floorboards for the passenger? Nope. Okay I get it the Royale is 30 years old, but come on? Just a little bit of compassion? So my next step at this time is to check the lubrication on the shaft drive, the brake pads, bleed the rear brakes, check the clutch fluid, etc. I figure the bike was sitting, nothing's working, all the stuff is off of it might as well give it the rundown you know? Now, can ANYONE reccommend to me what to do outside of and after I do this maintenance stuff? I'm trying to just tackle a little bit at a time, but being honest, baggers and tourers have a LOT more stuff to put on and a LOT more stuff there to screw up if done incorrectly. I know the progress that I've made here has been fairly insignificant, but hey, noone ever made it through life without crawling first.

I swear after looking on ebay, I'm going to start fiberglassing and selling the bodywork when this project is over.

Where's saturday night live when you need them?

Well, Asher got me hooked on the following from Harley-Davidson's culture I guess? The group rides and meals, I'm a nurse at a children's hospital so anything for the benefit of the kids, I don't know he's had his head buried in technical manuals mumbling about torque figures? Locktight? and a whole lot of swearing. I don't know what is available in the Austin, Tx. area but I haven't made any plans since he hasn't finished it yet.

Well, i know my motor turns over, unfortunately, I still have to redo the wiring harness (Yay me), unstick the carbs, reattach the overflow tank for the coolant, get a new air filter, get a battery, redo the brakes (front and rear), make sure the clutch is functional, reconnect the c.l.a.s.s. suspension, drain and replace the fork oil, swap out the oil and filter, swap out the shaft drive fluid, thankfully I live in texas, and riding season is practically year round so it's a blessing and a curse. The nice thing (for me at least is that it's not a 'wing, it's not a harley and it was free)

Alright, seat stay ordered. How many more parts aren't going to be there that I need? Also went up to O'reilly auto parts and came across a rust removal item called evaporust. I'm going to use it on my nut problems (no pun intended) on the frame/subframe connections when completed.

Just got back from the storage unit. I do not have that bracket from what I can tell (I was in there for three hours it isn't there) can you please give me the actual name of the bracket?

Alright so here's the plan for the future: I do have a tap and die set. I'm hoping to find the right tap, clean the threads of the rust and do my level best to get this subframe permanantly attached. I hope to have photos of the finished item tomorrow. On page 2 of this thread, Snyper316 showed a bracket in the photo that I know I've seen and is probably in the tub. Can someone please explain to me the purpose of this bracket, where it goes, what it does. I can't locate much pertaining to this in the technical manual, but boy if I had problems with the motor I would have zero issues, but when it comes to the frame, luggage, windshield, fairing, there's not a lot of information there.

Okay some progress made today, fuel tank is installed and subframe is KINDA installed? I'll explain about the subframe in a moment here. First photo of the mating of the three back to where they are supposed to be. http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161020_104450.jpg and from the other side http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161020_104435.jpg And the back http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161020_104443.jpg So here's where I'm semi hesitant...These two bolts (uppers for the subframe)are being an absolute P.I.T.A. to get in. Is this normal? With the amount of rust, I'm tempted to get the tap out and try to cut the rust out since I'm under the impression that things should more or less just line up and the bottom bolts line right up, take the correct amount of space with washer and bolt equipped to fit as intended. There's rust on the threads which is what makes me think that the tap is going to need to be broken out and clean the threads or maybe some lubricant. http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161020_104502.jpg http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161020_104515.jpg Likewise, does anyone have any advice on what the next step to take should be? Exhaust? Seat, Trunk, Fender,bags? Thanks for the support everyone.

Okay so maybe I'll loosen the purse strings a bit. If he's messing with me I'll find it out eventually and then choke him with the wiring harness. 300 miles on the back of a sportster made me a little slow to trust him on this.

So he really isn't joking or pulling my leg, it actually is comfortable? I'm a larger woman 200lbs, five foot three so even at my size I shouldn't feel squished like I did on the Sportster he had?

Hello, I'm Asher's wife and he's been telling me that I shouldn't have a problem with comfort after he's done doing the bike. Our last ride was a sportster that he said was "fun" (hint: it wasn't) and that it was comfortable (hint it wasn't) and that this will be different. He's the only motorcyclist I've ever ridden with and I'm hoping this will be a much happier experience than a Harley Sportster or I'm cutting off his funding for the restoration. Please help relieve my worry that this thing will be another torture rack for me (his bike is an '86 venture royal). Thanks everyone!

http://www.davescyclesupply.com/images/super/MC298_11.jpg This is a photo of said floorboards from markland for the goldwing. This is what he's referencing from picture 5. I'm not even sure if I want to keep all the gobbledeegook extras or take it back to stock and say screw the mess. From what I can extrapolate from the parts, there was a front fender rail, floorboards on the front engine guards, rider floorboards, the cage on the back, the rider's backrest. I never laid eyes on the shed, but the house and yard weren't in the bast of shape, but it's not something that I typically ask and he had everything laid out on the driveway. The guy's one of those people that is a workaholic so he's not home all that often to attend to the "honey-do" list that usually comes up. But, for a free motorcycle, I knew I was signing on for a project. I've restored Harleys from less (79 superglide that had the jugs off, water in the crankcase, drivechain had been dragging on the street because it "looked cool", exhaust hanging on by a coat hanger twist, Spark plug wires off of an old Chevy, Handlebars were made from god knows what. I was never able to reconcile how Harleys, bmw, ducati,triumph are worthy of restoration but other bikes are relegated to "just throw it in the crusher".

Trust me, I personally asked the previous owner directly and bluntly "did you store this thing outside". His reply was as follows verbatim "I put the bike in the shed, shoved the parts into some tubs and tried to keep them dry but then I had a roof leak and it took a while to get that fixed". I know it looks bad, believe me I've thought of just parting the cursed thing out for the money, but something about this bike says "put me back on the road where I belong". It's for this reason and this reason alone that I haven't said screw it. Like I said, I still have to do another trip back to the storage unit to photograph the other parts that are still in the tub. I remember there being some leather pouches (a little larger than a pack of cigarettes with the venture logo on them). a few microchips? I don't know. Right now I'm just focusin g on getting that tank mounted and the subframe and then I'm hoping from there I can start building up the back end of the bike. I did say this was going to be a proect did I not?

24)Airbox http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_093129.jpg 25)Headlight http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_093053.jpg 26)Battery box? http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_092941.jpg 27)I have no frigging idea Guessing rear end assembly with aftermarket chrome garbage rack? http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_092653.jpg 28)Front Fender http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_092818.jpg 29)Windshield with crack http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_092914.jpg 30)Instrument with a rack http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_092715.jpg 31)No Idea http://i1159.photobucket.com/albums/p635/matthew_lee3/20161014_092744.jpg Like I said, there's more but that will have to wait for another trip to the storage unit. I've purchased the bolts and whatnot to mount the gas tank to the frame, but apparantly there's a grommet that's needed that's no longer made that I have to track down. (part #90480-20357-00 ) So hopefully soon I'll have the fuel tank and subframe back on inside of a week time permitting (just had a death in the family two hours ago at time of posting so might have to make a run down to mexico to deal with this). Please I'm begging yu guys any details you can give me on any of these photos of things to toss and things to keep will save me a LOT of time and hassle. I'll post more as soon as I can.