schemer Posted February 23, 2015 #1 Posted February 23, 2015 When trying to find parts for the carb's I am working on (1999 Royal Star 1300) and the high prices for OEM I was wondering if the K&L needle valve assembly or kit is ok to use or should I go with the driect OEM part for these 4 carbs? Thanks, schemer
MiCarl Posted February 23, 2015 #2 Posted February 23, 2015 The K&L float needles and valves for the RS 1300 are from Keyster, not Mikuni. I know the folks in the XJ world have had some trouble with Keyster needles being too tall, but I suspect K&L cross references them wrong. Don't forget float bowl o-rings. The ones from K&L should be fine there.
schemer Posted February 23, 2015 Author #3 Posted February 23, 2015 The K&L float needles and valves for the RS 1300 are from Keyster, not Mikuni. I know the folks in the XJ world have had some trouble with Keyster needles being too tall, but I suspect K&L cross references them wrong. Don't forget float bowl o-rings. The ones from K&L should be fine there. MiCarl, I know the K&L's are made by Keyster. So with a float adjustment they are ok to use or better to stick with the OEM parts from the Yamaha dealer? I already have replaced all the o-rings and float bowl o-ring. Person wanted to do it without buying all the parts I recommended so the needles and seats are the originals but I did change the o-rings on the seats. Leaks though. Thanks, schemer
MiCarl Posted February 23, 2015 #4 Posted February 23, 2015 MiCarl, I know the K&L's are made by Keyster. So with a float adjustment they are ok to use or better to stick with the OEM parts from the Yamaha dealer? I already have replaced all the o-rings and float bowl o-ring. Person wanted to do it without buying all the parts I recommended so the needles and seats are the originals but I did change the o-rings on the seats. Leaks though. Thanks, schemer I don't know that the Keysters are the wrong height. Just relayed what I knew about the XJs. In that case the height difference was making them difficult/impossible to set. I've never had to do needles/seats on a RS. If it were mine I'd be inclined to try the ones from K&L. If the needles have a rubber tip I wouldn't do the seats. Did you check to find if it's leaking at the needles or around the seats?
schemer Posted February 23, 2015 Author #5 Posted February 23, 2015 (edited) I don't know that the Keysters are the wrong height. Just relayed what I knew about the XJs. In that case the height difference was making them difficult/impossible to set. I've never had to do needles/seats on a RS. If it were mine I'd be inclined to try the ones from K&L. If the needles have a rubber tip I wouldn't do the seats. Did you check to find if it's leaking at the needles or around the seats? I just ordered some OEM ones along with those stupid square cut 0-rings under the main jet. The main problem with the carb's was they were pretty gunked up from sitting and when I started on them the middleman was very worried about parts and prices. Those are the kind of people I seem to get to rebuild stuff for. Anyhow, I told him the o-rings were proprietary and needed to get the correct size(s) and in some cases that could not be done using aftermarket o-ring suppliers and I wasn't going to be doing them twice because of a "close enough" o-ring. Anyhow, when I pulled the first carb apart I though that was enough to give me an idea of the minimum o-rings I needed. That was my first mistake. The first carb came apart ok aside from the brittle o-rings on the fuel transfer tubes and the usual ones inside. I didn't know about the "square cross sectioned o-ring" under the main jet but read on another forum where they said they didn't see why a regular round cross section would not work, so that is the only one I cheated on. Mainly because they are $5.00 each x 4 and are very tiny. But when I started tearing apart the other 3 carbs the seats were stuck so bad I ended up using pliers to get them out. I didn't hurt the inside and thought they would be ok but I told the guy I would really like to replace them. He said lets just see if they work. They leaked. I had replaced the needles with K&L parts as they came FREE (in my mind) with the bowl gasket kit I bought from ebay from a most reputable seller named George. The gaskets for the bowls were also K&L. Anyhow, I found the best deal I could after 8 hours of googling and bought the parts...all OEM. Thanks, schemer Edited February 24, 2015 by schemer
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