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Question: does coolant steam off when it is exposed / not under pressure? Am I seeing the radiator "burning off" the spilled fluid?
Coolant will leave a film that will give off steam as it dries. It helps to hose off the area of a spill with clean water and then blow off most of the water with an air hose. May still have a little steam but it doesn't last long
Terrific, thanks. The stream eventually stopped and there have been no drips so far.
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Another update. I went to the auto parts store with part in hand, and looked at their O-rings. None looked like mine. Theirs were round while mine was almost a rectangle in section. So I went off to the the dealer and bought one part number 93210-18417-00 for $4.50. They had to go to the remote stock to get it, which gave me a chance to check out the new bikes. The Triumph Tiger looks interesting, but they had a gorgeous FJR. If I can ever get Roxie to stop bleeding, I'll get something new.
Anyways, it turns out the auto store probably did have an O-ring of proper size, but mine was so smooshed that it didn't look similar. Below are pics of the new and old, and some caliper readings I took of the new one (19mm x 2mm).
I installed heat pipe 2 with the new O-ring, and that solved the leak there. I started her up and saw some on the pin and at the bottom of the radiator. Remembering that I spilled some when filling the radiator, I wiped it down and started her again. No visible fluid. However, there is steam.
Question: does coolant steam off when it is exposed / not under pressure? Am I seeing the radiator "burning off" the spilled fluid?
Dave
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It appears that mine has a leak too. I haven't been able to locate it yet. I had seepage where the small hose connects to the metal tube alongside the top of the frame. Tightening the clamp fixed that. The drain plugs in the cylinders were also leaking so I replaced them. I haven't been able to locate any other damp spots and it doesn't leak on the floor, even when running, but I smell coolant any time I stop while riding. Other than topping it off after the drain plug replacement, I have only added about a pint of coolant to the overflow reservoir in the 3 years I've owned the bike.
That's really interesting. Sounds like you are loosing a drop at a time.
I don't know if I can be of any help to you guys but a friend of mine has an '06 RSTD and he is on his 3rd radiator. He has had the same problem with leaking. Seems to me that Yamaha has installed some bad radiators for a couple of years. So far he is having good luck with the 3rd one. You may want to check with the dealer that did all the work and is pretty knowledgeable about the problem. Contact the owner, Mike at Cyclesport Yamaha, Hobart, IN. Sorry don't have the fone number...just google it.I hope I have helped.
I don't know. My bike has 97,000 miles on it now, and the problem just started. Can't say that the radiator is defective. LOL
Thanks guys for your thoughts.
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Update of a sorts. I got the radiator off and examined it. There didn't look to be any leak from the top pin (photo). There didn't look to be any leak at all.
I tested the fan, and it works.
I followed the steps for removing the thermostat but couldn't figure out how to get it out. Its a 3-D puzzle, and I am usually very good at that, but I couldn't get it out. So reversed myself and put the bike back together. Now that I have a better idea of where to look, I wanted to run it and see where it leaks.
But now I have a leak out of the heat pipe 2. (photo) Reading parts lists, I note that there should be an o-ring, but I didn't see one. It is part 93210-18417-00 in the parts fiche, and is priced variously from $1.62 to $9.50. Surely it is just an o-ring. Anyone know the size? I thought I saw it listed here, but can't find it in searches.
Edit: Does fluid leaking from the heat pipe indicate the water pump is working?
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Hello to all. Question on this problem and wanted to see if any of you had this problem in the past. Radiator is leaking water and it appears to be from the base of the plastic pin mount at the top of the radiator. It leaks about 8 Oz. of coolant a week. I check it weekly. To me.....this plastic pin in the top of the radiator really seems like a bad design. Can this be fixed.... or do I need to look into a new OEM radiator. Does anyone know of a shop that builds custom ones? Thank You.
Did you get this fixed? Mine seems to have the same problem. Took off the radiator and there doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the pin. Puzzling.
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How do I get the top pin out of that red arrow'd bracket? It has a rubber bushing, but the mushroom top doesn't want to slip out?
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Sorda.....
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I didn't get a real good look as I took it apart fast and snapped a pic. I will look closer today.
Similar, I'd say. I'm attaching the manual's radiator disassembly instructions in case those could help you.
Dave
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I also have a radiator leak. I haven't pin pointed mine yet but it looks about the same runs from top to bottom. At first I thought it was the plastic drain bolt at bottom but once removing the lowers and radiator cover it is running down the fins to the bottom. I hope to get time in the next couple days to analyze the issue more and fix.
Interesting! Does it look the same as my photo? I'm heading out in a moment to start taking the bike apart and investigate.
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You might try going by Autozone. They have radiator pressure testers you can test caps and cooling systems. Several adapters in the little kit, hopefully one will fit. I am afraid though it looks as though its sprung a leak. I think the piece you are pointing to is a mount. Unfortunately the ra is probably plastic tank and metal core and its just clamped together, so no viable repair. Jb weld might get you home, but I dont think I would want to call it a permanent fix.
Does it leak static, with bike just sitting still in garage? Or does it have to warm up and then leak?
It requires the engine to be hot. The pressure tester is a good idea, though.
From the black streak running down the front of the radiator, and the puddle of green in the bottom lip, I think your red arrow has pin pointed it. I think if it t'were me I'd check the over-flow hose bib, and or replace the cap. It may be nothing more than cutting a bit off the O.F. hose and reclamp.That area is so hard to see in. I have seen green fluid higher up than the red arrow... condensation? Not sure how to get to the hoses, but I feel like coolant is dribbling down and collecting on the red arrow. I have felt the engine get really hot, which makes me wonder if the thermostat isn't working. Again, the part is hard to get to.
Thanks for the ideas!
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damn, that sux, but I got nothing,... I hope it turns out to be an easy fix for ya.
Brian
Thanks Brian. Since it doesn't look like there are many ideas on this, I guess I'll be tearing her down over Thanksgiving.
Dave
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Along with a mysterious oil drip, my 2006 RSTD now features a coolant leak. I doubt it is the radiator, but that's where the leak manifests. There looks like a in front trickle, and I've seen fluid on that stem thing on the top. The trickle seems to come from the stem thing. (See photos)
I've looked for visible wetness up top, but can't see any from the sides. I do see "steam" coming from low down... could that condense up top?
Before I tear into that front end mess, does this ring a bell with someone?
Dave
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To honor Gunboat, over Labor Day weekend I made a run from Mexico to Canada as a bun burner. 1685 miles in 32 hours. Others did it in 24 hours, but I wasn't gonna ride through hail.
Congrats on your achievement. Of the 1% of motorcyclists who try an iron butt, 1% of them try again. You are elite, a mile eater. :-D
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No expert on this stuff, but I have had electrical struggles for some time and that has given me some experience. I recently had to replace the regulator/rectifier at the tail end of a longish trip. I'm sure that what I am about to say will be corrected if it needs it.
The battery doesn't push electricity. It supplies power to the engine and accessories, and then it is replenished by the charging system, of which the stator and RR are the main components. I think of the system as plumbing, where the accessories are the drain and stator/RR are the faucet. When the reservoir (battery) gets low, the faucet turns on to fill it.
If the battery is topped up, the rectifier doesn't need to send everything through. The stator still puts out the same juice, but now the rectifier dissipates the unneeded energy. It does that in part by converting electricity to heat. If your high-power stator is sending a lot of energy, maybe the rectifier has to create a lot of heat.
Another common problem is that after years of converting electricity to heat, the connections get burnt. That causes more resistance, and resistance is dissipated by more heat. The stator is still cranking out juice, but less is able to flow to the battery due to increased resistance. Where does it go? Heat. And that makes the problem worse.
As RRs age, they convert more energy to heat. Mine needed to be replaced, because the power coming out of it was less than spec. It was getting very hot and the battery was getting drained.
I do believe there are higher power RRs that supposedly are matched to the higher output stator. That could help. But more commonly, making sure the connection coming out of the rectifier is not burnt is more useful.
Hope this helps.
Dave
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Two for me, Monty. Thanks.
Dave
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I am so sad to learn of Don's passing. He was such a larger-than-life figure here in the VRO community. He was one of the first members I met, and his overall goodness was immediately evident. He was kind, giving, talented, funny, humble... and such a good sport. He talked softly and yet wasn't afraid to use the Big Hammer when needed.
I'll always look around when we have group meetings, and expect to see him. And he'll be missed.
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We spent the night in Hope. We were both tuckered from two days hard riding. I pulled the plug on the headlight and we are daylight riding home. I am cautiously optimistic we'll get home without problems.
I'll update as we get on. Thanks for the concern.
Dave
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You have a big heart. May God bless and keep you.
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That's a pretty cool connector. Where will you keep the device?
I put in dual Powerlets, and ran a cord to my tank bag. That's where my USB chargers are. The other Powerlet is used for electrical undies.
Dave
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I must have missed the "forums" at the Kydex.com site. I don't find any there.
Maybe it isn't related but,
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I too have been contemplating the possible uses of Kydex after seeing it utilized for holsters. You can buy small quantities from Tandy Leather.
Have you been to http://www.kydex.com/ for possible inspiration?
I went to the forums there. All I saw were thousands of holster posts. :-\
Dave
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I bought some Kydex to make myself an IWB CCH holster. This stuff looks really useful, but all the "projects" I see for it are gun-related. Holsters of many kinds, clips, etc.
What have you done with it besides gun-related things? Is it vibration-resistant enough for use on a motorcycle? Say, a homemade cramp buster or bottle holder? I think I will line my tank bag with it to finally make my electrical plug more rigid.
Surely there are some good projects for thermoplastic. Expand my thinking!
Dave
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I would encourage anyone who thinks they want to use the map during a crisis along the road, to try it before they go. It is possible, and perhaps a lifesaver, but it is awkward. Better to try it at your leisure with Wifi than to learn while pressured and with crappy reception. My impression, at least.
Dave
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Works great, first time!
Might try to break it for you, as a public service, you know.
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Art -- glad to see you posting! Godspeed on your recovery.
Miles -- thanks for the link! I found the site for the manufacturer: http://www.theICEdevice.com
The owner is an LD rider, and the cost is 1/2 that quoted by AeroStitch. I'm gonna put one into twice as many friends' hands.
Those coming to the SE Texas Maintenance Day: you will get one of these.
Dave
This is sad, and I think we all wish him the very best.I am an adament user of the ICE device : http://www.aerostich.com/icedevice.html
These are very small, are easy to attach to a jacket zipper, or anywhere else.
The package you receive has 12 forms that can be filled out...12 copies of the same form. And there are 5 of the very tiny capsules that the form is placed in. That means, one order of these will satisfy at least 5 riders if you want to share them with others.
I keep one of the ICE devices on the outside of my jacket, and one ICE device inside a pocket.
A ICE on a phone is good, but what if the phone is damaged.
I hope that he comes out of this well.
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Radiator Leak?
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Well, that area only comprises about 75% of the coolant system.
Did you download and look at the pages I ripped from the service manual? It is in post 10. I think you can take off the tank and the side covers, and look with a bright light from both sides, and maybe see the leak. Make sure you look at both ends of the upper radiator hose. That hose would drip right into the center of the radiator, and also on the air box hose.
Good luck!