BratmanXj Posted August 28, 2019 Share #1 Posted August 28, 2019 1st time out on the Venture in 4 weeks, I've been having to much fun with the kid in the Ural sidecar I picked up last year! Cruise control sets and will work fine, but I know I have the bike setup rather stiff for my riding style and the 1st good bump and the cruise will kick off. The usual culprits of clutch and brake switches or worn bushings in the levers. I've searched the forum and came across 2 reference for repairs, but they are both for 1st Gen ventures: https://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?42720-1986-1993-Brake-and-Clutch-Electrical-Switch-Disassembly-and-Cleaning https://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?80754-Cruise-Control&highlight=cruise+control Can anyone verify if the Cleaning procedures are similar for a 2nd Gen? Is there any adjustments that can be made to the pickup-up points of these switches? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted August 28, 2019 Share #2 Posted August 28, 2019 Never had a 2nd gen apart for that issue, but the principle would be the same. Take the handles off, clean them, lube them, and then re-install and check for play. If there is play, drill them out and make a new bushing for each. Chances are that the handle has worn and not the pin. Check the pin as well, and if its worn, get a new one first, it might solve your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jthomas Posted August 28, 2019 Share #3 Posted August 28, 2019 Does your lights flash also? Sometimes after i hit several good dips it will kick it off but when trying to rengage both lights flash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BratmanXj Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share #4 Posted August 28, 2019 Does your lights flash also? Sometimes after i hit several good dips it will kick it off but when trying to rengage both lights flash. It re-engages just fine...until I hit the next bump and one of the over-ride switches kicks it back off again. Riding a fairly new & level road last night was fine for a few miles, the system works as intended. The bike is a '99 and I'm certain its just wear and tear that needs to be addressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videoarizona Posted August 28, 2019 Share #5 Posted August 28, 2019 It re-engages just fine...until I hit the next bump and one of the over-ride switches kicks it back off again. Riding a fairly new & level road last night was fine for a few miles, the system works as intended. The bike is a '99 and I'm certain its just wear and tear that needs to be addressed. I'm with Carl on this.....one of the switches (clutch, front brake, rear brake) is getting bumped by either a worn handle or misadjusted switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhfradarwill Posted August 28, 2019 Share #6 Posted August 28, 2019 I'm with Carl on this.....one of the switches (clutch, front brake, rear brake) is getting bumped by either a worn handle or misadjusted switch. Do the newer generation bikes have a seat weight sensor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videoarizona Posted August 28, 2019 Share #7 Posted August 28, 2019 Do the newer generation bikes have a seat weight sensor? There are times I think they do...but no. I don't know about the new 3rd gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowpuc Posted August 28, 2019 Share #8 Posted August 28, 2019 I'm with Carl on this.....one of the switches (clutch, front brake, rear brake) is getting bumped by either a worn handle or misadjusted switch. Seems like it would be easy enough to figure out which switch is getting bumped,,, maybe just set the cruise and support the levers one at a time with a finger (or lift up on the rear brake with a toe) while hitting a bump or two or three and see if it helps.. My one first 1st Gen was a Royale and after it got a couple hundred thousand miles on it, it started doing this,, turned out to be the clutch lever pivot was tired and the slop let it bump the switch when bounced at all.. Good point you lop eared varmints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BratmanXj Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share #9 Posted August 28, 2019 Seems like it would be easy enough to figure out which switch is getting bumped,,, maybe just set the cruise and support the levers one at a time with a finger (or lift up on the rear brake with a toe) while hitting a bump or two or three and see if it helps.. My one first 1st Gen was a Royale and after it got a couple hundred thousand miles on it, it started doing this,, turned out to be the clutch lever pivot was tired and the slop let it bump the switch when bounced at all.. Good point you lop eared varmints! Completely agree that its just worn out components, just looking to see if anyone has cleaned up the contacts on a 2nd Gen as the instructions indicated for a 1st Gen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboy Posted August 28, 2019 Share #10 Posted August 28, 2019 Follow link to item 4 https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2004/royal-star-midnight-venture-xvz13tfms/front-master-cylinder-2 My bike was doing the same thing and at first look I thought it might be in the contacts however with more closely looking the brass bushing was worn enough to allow the vibration or bumps to disengage the cruise. Easy replacement and have not had an issue since. If you take it out for a ride and put pressure away from you on the lever handles and the cruise stays engaged my bet is need to replace bushing. Later Brian Shoemaker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BratmanXj Posted August 29, 2019 Author Share #12 Posted August 29, 2019 Follow link to item 4 https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2004/royal-star-midnight-venture-xvz13tfms/front-master-cylinder-2 My bike was doing the same thing and at first look I thought it might be in the contacts however with more closely looking the brass bushing was worn enough to allow the vibration or bumps to disengage the cruise. Easy replacement and have not had an issue since. If you take it out for a ride and put pressure away from you on the lever handles and the cruise stays engaged my bet is need to replace bushing. 15 min and $9 repair...I'm game! Taking it down to mom's lake house this weekend and will play around with the levers while cruising and verify. Again, the bikes a '99 with 70k miles, I know parts are wearing out and causing these issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpate4home Posted August 29, 2019 Share #13 Posted August 29, 2019 Follow link to item 4 https://www.partzilla.com/catalog/yamaha/motorcycle/2004/royal-star-midnight-venture-xvz13tfms/front-master-cylinder-2 My bike was doing the same thing and at first look I thought it might be in the contacts however with more closely looking the brass bushing was worn enough to allow the vibration or bumps to disengage the cruise. Easy replacement and have not had an issue since. If you take it out for a ride and put pressure away from you on the lever handles and the cruise stays engaged my bet is need to replace bushing. Later Brian Shoemaker Cowboy is spot on. I had the same issue on My '06 when I hit about 95K miles on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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