ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Share #1 Posted April 23, 2012 Putting a new 150/80-16 Venom on the front and I feel a tight spot on both wheel bearings. I am going to replace them. I have 2 questions. A search here did not help me much. (1) How do you get the bearings out ? With the inner spacer I see no way to use a standard bearing puller or a drift punch to knock em out, no lip to drive them out. (2) Sourcing the bearing and seal? Yamaha part or from a bearing supply ? Aftermarket part numbers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted April 23, 2012 Share #2 Posted April 23, 2012 (edited) Putting a new 150/80-16 Venom on the front and I feel a tight spot on both wheel bearings. I am going to replace them. I have 2 questions. A search here did not help me much. (1) How do you get the bearings out ? With the inner spacer I see no way to use a standard bearing puller or a drift punch to knock em out, no lip to drive them out. (2) Sourcing the bearing and seal? Yamaha part or from a bearing supply ? Aftermarket part numbers? For the '83 I picked up an impact bearing puller from Harbor Freight and got the bearings to come off the races a little, then the drift punch worked. If I remember correctly the bearing number is 6003... at least for the '83. The 2ndGens may be the same?? I picked them up from my son-in-law who manages a wholesale parts supplier. The bearing come in several different configurations. Stainless, sealed, open. I think I bought Timkins?? BTW don't forget to pick up new seals. Unless you're really good at removing bearings... Edited April 23, 2012 by Condor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted April 23, 2012 No offence, but I Think I'll wait on a 2nd Gen owner, don't want to get the wrong parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yammer Dan Posted April 23, 2012 Share #4 Posted April 23, 2012 Yeah you usually have to wait on the 2nd Gens..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted April 23, 2012 Share #5 Posted April 23, 2012 No offence, but I Think I'll wait on a 2nd Gen owner, don't want to get the wrong parts. No offence taken. I just looked in my RSV manual and found this 93306-00420-00 BEARING (B6004) Hope it helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share #6 Posted April 23, 2012 Thanks, I have the Yamaha P/N for bearings & seals, Just thought i may get a better bearing and seal going aftermarket. Only got 55K out of this set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hog Posted April 23, 2012 Share #7 Posted April 23, 2012 Do you have a welder?Or access to one?The way I removed my bearings was to put in a piece of cold roll steel inside the inner race of the bearing ,(a piece of all thread rod or a bolt will work) and tack weld the inner race of the bearing to the cold roll and then take a hammer and hit the cold roll or bolt and drive out the bearing then remove the spacer and then access to the bearing on the other side is easy.You may want to cover your rim and tire with something while welding it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcarl Posted April 23, 2012 Share #8 Posted April 23, 2012 To keep matters simple thee inside of the wheel where the axle goes through is made of 3 main pieces. Two bearings and a long spacer that goes from bearing to bearing. The spacer can move from side to side at one end to allow one to drive out the outer race of a bearing from the opposite side. It takes a little bit of care, but that's how the manual says to do it and it does work. Not sure if both sides of the spacer will move over to allow this, but I know one side will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2012 Share #9 Posted April 23, 2012 Ill be doing mine as well this week, after I polish the rims. Rear bearings too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share #10 Posted April 23, 2012 All Balls makes a front bearing kit with seals that sells for about $25.00 That's half of what yamaha gets for the oem parts ordered individually. The part number for the kit is 12-5545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etcswjoe Posted April 23, 2012 Share #11 Posted April 23, 2012 Here is an old thread on the subject. http://www.venturerider.org/forum/showthread.php?t=44779 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share #12 Posted April 23, 2012 Thanks Joe, I'm gonna try and find a friend with a blind hole bearing puller. There is no way to drive them out without messing something up *#@(! Yamaha ! why they do this stupid engineering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvester Posted April 23, 2012 Share #13 Posted April 23, 2012 The only time a blind hole puller is needed is on a motorcycle ( I have been told). It is used on most brands to remove the wheel bearings. The best one I own is from Harbor Freight. It is much better than the professional one I bought for nearly $150.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 23, 2012 Share #14 Posted April 23, 2012 The only time a blind hole puller is needed is on a motorcycle ( I have been told). It is used on most brands to remove the wheel bearings. The best one I own is from Harbor Freight. It is much better than the professional one I bought for nearly $150.00. http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-hole-bearing-puller-95987.html Is this the one which you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylvester Posted April 23, 2012 Share #15 Posted April 23, 2012 http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-hole-bearing-puller-95987.html Is this the one which you speak of? That's the one. The "pro" one had six or eight different extractors but none would fit the rear axle bearing. Go figure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share #16 Posted April 23, 2012 Went to Harbor Freight this morning, they didn't have one. Autozone has them for loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share #17 Posted April 23, 2012 Yeah you usually have to wait on the 2nd Gens..... You have to wait on us because we're still running and fetchin parts for those antique 1st gens that keep breaking. How many do you own to keep one running? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share #18 Posted April 23, 2012 No offence taken. I just looked in my RSV manual and found this 93306-00420-00 BEARING (B6004) Hope it helps. I got a pair of the 6004's from the shop that mounted my tire, the 6004 OD is too small ! I ordered the all balls bearing and seal kit $24 and change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted April 24, 2012 Share #19 Posted April 24, 2012 http://www.harborfreight.com/blind-hole-bearing-puller-95987.html Is this the one which you speak of? Yep that's the one I bought from HF. I think it was around $39 bucks at the time and I squeeked about that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2012 Share #20 Posted April 24, 2012 Its now 69 bucks online and it wouldnt accept my 20% off coupon. Its only good in the store so tomorrow ill stop in and see if they have one in stock. Since im replacing both front and rear wheel bearings ill invest in the tool. Thanks for the response.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Condor Posted April 24, 2012 Share #21 Posted April 24, 2012 Its now 69 bucks online and it wouldnt accept my 20% off coupon. Its only good in the store so tomorrow ill stop in and see if they have one in stock. Since im replacing both front and rear wheel bearings ill invest in the tool. Thanks for the response.... Print the online page out and take it with you along with the coupon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share #22 Posted April 24, 2012 As often as I'll need this tool I'll just get the loaner from Autozone. Now to pile things on, I just got a notification from fedex my flanders g2 bars, lines & cables are being delivered tomorrow now I'll have both bikes in pieces. The flanders, lines & cables are going on mama's trike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djh3 Posted April 24, 2012 Share #23 Posted April 24, 2012 Wasnt sure what kind of puller you were talking about until I saw the pic. I have used the same type puller for pilot bearings for a car with clutch. Dont allways work, but thats what your suposed to use. I too think I would go the autozone route. What is the source your getting the bearing from that work? With only 9900 miles I wouldnt think I'm anywhere near needing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 24, 2012 Share #24 Posted April 24, 2012 Wasnt sure what kind of puller you were talking about until I saw the pic. I have used the same type puller for pilot bearings for a car with clutch. Dont allways work, but thats what your suposed to use. I too think I would go the autozone route. What is the source your getting the bearing from that work? With only 9900 miles I wouldnt think I'm anywhere near needing them. Naaa, you wouldnt need them but if you did your warranty would cover them anyway. My rear wheel needed a bearing in 2003 and warranty covered it. Since im polishing my front wheel I decided to go ahead and replace the bearings as a precaution. I have another rear wheel from an 05 that im also polishing so I went ahead and ordered new bearings and seals for it. I also found the same puller on EBAY for 59 bucks, free shipping and since I had some ebay bucks stashed I was able to get it for 45 bucks. My bearing source as well as all my oem parts comes from Stadium cycle, a yamaha dealer in Texas. He averages about a 40% discount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ragtop69gs Posted April 30, 2012 Author Share #25 Posted April 30, 2012 This new Venom front tire is awesome ! The bike handles the twisties with confidence I never had with the 404 front I just replaced. I bought the bike with the 404 and always felt like the front end was going to slide out on me, now I feel as though I'm riding a sport bike in the turns ! now I'll be replacing floorboards more often than front tires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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